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McGaughey, McGoy, McCaughey, McCoy?
Little Bill | 3/10/14 | Me

Posted on 03/10/2014 1:12:12 PM PDT by Little Bill

I have been doing this Ancestor stuff, because I am getting old and I have verified that my dads family were exactly what the claimed to be, Limeys.

My Old Ma's family were Harps from Northern Ireland and possibly Scotland, Gaelic is not a language a civilized person would speak and tracing these Names is driving me to drink.

Old Ma was black Irish on The J2c2e scale of MTDNA which means her family were Polocks, this thing has me confused.


TOPICS: Hobbies; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: irish; scots
All your American Harps out there, Help!
1 posted on 03/10/2014 1:12:12 PM PDT by Little Bill
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To: Little Bill

Austrian here, so I only speak Austrian, can’t help you.


2 posted on 03/10/2014 1:15:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Little Bill

I haven’t done the DNA thing yet, but my ancestors on my father’s side were Scotch-Irish.


3 posted on 03/10/2014 1:16:27 PM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: Little Bill

Scottish Gentile — Mac Goyim...


4 posted on 03/10/2014 1:17:14 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: sauropod
Still have your Kilt? Macmillan if I remember correctly.
5 posted on 03/10/2014 1:22:44 PM PDT by Little Bill
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To: freedumb2003

12th Tribe?


6 posted on 03/10/2014 1:26:44 PM PDT by Little Bill
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To: Little Bill

I haven’t done the tests but I am at least 4/1461 irish.


7 posted on 03/10/2014 1:29:11 PM PDT by posterchild
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To: Little Bill
I highly recommend James Webb's The Fighting Scots Irish. I was able to find stories that linked to my wife's family. My mother was a McGee, grandpa however didn't hang around much and they immigrated to Canada. My wife's middle name is Boone, a descendant of Daniel through one of his indian wives. Family moved from Kentucky to Ohio. Another good book in this area is Riding With The Devil which brings the Scots down the whisky trail from Philadelphia into the hollers of Appalacia where they could grow corn and make whisky. Washingotn had the Whisky Rebellion to deal with. Eventually these people transporting shine hopped up their 39 Fords and such to out run the revenuers, got into showing off their fast cars and spawned NASCAR. They are the reason the cross of St' Andrew is on the Confederate flag which as you know is well displayed at NASCAR events.
8 posted on 03/10/2014 1:30:07 PM PDT by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: posterchild

On some nights I’m a fifth Irish.


9 posted on 03/10/2014 1:30:57 PM PDT by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: Little Bill
McCoy is USUALLY Scottish, although it could be Irish. (Mac Aodha is the old Irish - roughly translates to fire). McGaughey is usually Irish (Horseman). McCaughey is definitely Irish. Mac hEochaidh. (Son of Eochaidh.) It's pronounced Owey.
10 posted on 03/10/2014 1:37:59 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: dblshot
Jamison or Murphy's, South vs Ulster
11 posted on 03/10/2014 1:39:01 PM PDT by Little Bill
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To: Darren McCarty
I was on a web site and did a search on McGaughey and ended up in Ulster. There a Black Protestant McGaughey was hurling Sulpher and Brim Stone on Quivering Papest Mcgaughey’s.
12 posted on 03/10/2014 1:46:29 PM PDT by Little Bill
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To: posterchild

Wherever four Irishmen are gathered, there’s a fifth.


13 posted on 03/10/2014 1:50:58 PM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (I'm not anti-government, government's anti-me.)
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To: Little Bill

I first thought this was a thread about country singer Neal McCoy. His real name is McGaughey, pronounced “McGoy”, but everyone was mispronouncing it as “McCoy” when he was starting his career, so he just went ahead and changed it. (His father was of Irish descent, and his mother is from the Philippines.)


14 posted on 03/10/2014 1:56:53 PM PDT by Montanabound
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To: Little Bill

I am pure blooded Dutch. I have been working on my family trees for over a dozen years already. It is not the easiest to get info on the Dutch in some provinces, as well as here in the USA after the US Census of 1940.


15 posted on 03/10/2014 2:00:09 PM PDT by Eric Roelfsema
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To: Little Bill

Forbes.


16 posted on 03/10/2014 2:00:22 PM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: posterchild

Not to worry: You’ll be 100% Irish a week from today!


17 posted on 03/10/2014 2:00:44 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Little Bill
Ulster is tougher to trace since it could be either Scots-Irish (Scottish roots) or Irish there. There's similarities as both have Gaelic roots, but there are some differences with the surnames. The Mc and Mac names (son of) are used in both surnames.

If that side is historically Catholic, it's more likely (not always) to be "Green" Irish. If it's historically Presbyterian (not always), it's more likely to be Scottish.

Many names have been Anglicized both in the US, and in Ireland and Britain. McCarthy/MacCarthy/McCarty/MacCarthy is obvious, but one of my good friends has over 20 variations of his surname in Ireland alone. The four you mention could all come from the same name, or they could be different just due to pronunciations. Picture Paddy, Mick, or Jock arriving in the US or talking to George the Brit with the various Celtic accents. McCoy, McCay, McGoy, McKay, McGaha.

18 posted on 03/10/2014 2:07:44 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers

And it goes quick! Tullamore Dew.


19 posted on 03/10/2014 2:08:41 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: Montanabound
My Grandmothers Mother was a McCaughey, my Grandmother married a McGaughey, gets confusing, she had a sister who Married a McCaughey, different branch.

I was down in the Delta in Mississippi and the McGaughey’s there pronounce it McGoy.

20 posted on 03/10/2014 2:09:35 PM PDT by Little Bill
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To: Little Bill

My grandmother’s parents were Harps from the North of Ireland—Co. Derry (or Londonderry according to the side of the road u live on)—she was O’Connor (not a common name up there—much more a southern name) but I have found strange names up in Derry that were Catholic Logue (my great grandmother’s surname —catholic name only in Donegal and Derry Grieve A Derry catholic surname in towns and country side as you head toward Tyrone. Granny had cousins named McKinney but heard there were Protestant McKinneys as well. There was a family named DunnI had met who were Protestant—spelled Dunn (Catholics down south spell it with an E at the end same for the name Browne and Clarke)
Another funny name up in Derry and Tyrone is Askin. The Gaelic language it seems died out in my grandmother’s part of Derry possibly before the time of the Famine—also it seems as though way back then there were more Protestant families. The Protestants didn’t have as many kids and some families died out—or if they weren’t so well off—they emigrated as well. Catholics (many Gaelic speaking from Co. Donegal came to work in Derry City and sometimes the country as well) Much earlier in the late 1600s even into very early 1700s there were Scottish Gaelic congregations of Presbyterians. For all its worth!


21 posted on 03/10/2014 2:21:52 PM PDT by brooklyn dave
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To: Little Bill

Bushmills is the Irish whisky up in the north


22 posted on 03/10/2014 2:23:44 PM PDT by brooklyn dave
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To: Darren McCarty
My mothers Family snuck across the border from Canukistan due to a loop hole in the 1848 treaty.

My Grandmother, a Toole, figured my Grandfathers family were conversos, either for love or of the catholic on protestant persecutions of the 1640’s.

If you had seen Photos of my Grandmother taken in 1910 you would have converted too.

23 posted on 03/10/2014 2:29:08 PM PDT by Little Bill
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To: brooklyn dave

I remember me, a bottle of Jamison, and a Young lady willing to contribute to the welfare of the Troops in San Francisco in 1965 as on my way across the pond.


24 posted on 03/10/2014 2:39:20 PM PDT by Little Bill
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To: Darren McCarty

Hard to trace my Mattesons too. They came here in the 1600s. Teachers might have a tendency to correct a bad spelling of the name to Madison, Matterson, Matison...


25 posted on 03/10/2014 6:24:01 PM PDT by Antoninus II
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To: Antoninus II

I’m just glad I’m not a Smith or Jones!


26 posted on 03/10/2014 6:24:38 PM PDT by Antoninus II
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To: Little Bill

lol


27 posted on 03/11/2014 5:20:17 AM PDT by brooklyn dave
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