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Hire like Google? For most companies, that's a bad idea
Los Angeles Times ^ | 03/10/2014 | Christopher Chabris and Jonathan Wai

Posted on 03/11/2014 6:56:40 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The computer giant can afford to abandon traditional measures of intelligence. Most companies can't.

Laszlo Bock, the head of human resources at Google, made quite a splash with his announcement last year that the technology firm has changed the way it hires people. Gone are the brainteaser-style interview questions that so many candidates abhorred. But also gone, it would seem, is any concern with discovering how smart applicants really are.

"GPAs are worthless as a criteria for hiring, and test scores are worthless.... We found that they don't predict anything," Bock told the New York Times.

Let's take Bock at his word and assume that the data-obsessed firm has crunched the numbers rigorously and found that the test scores of the people it hires really don't predict how well they perform once they are on the job. If Google ranked its new hires by their SAT scores, and found that those in the bottom 10% of the list performed just as well as those in the top 10%, would it mean that traditional measures of intelligence are useless in the business world?

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Society
KEYWORDS: employment; google; hiring

1 posted on 03/11/2014 6:56:40 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
In that case, I'm applying.

I've always wanted to be a Vice-President of a Fortune 500 company.

2 posted on 03/11/2014 6:58:25 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: SeekAndFind

3 posted on 03/11/2014 6:58:43 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Texas Eagle
TRY THESE THEN...

4 posted on 03/11/2014 7:01:09 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

People that think they are the smartest and try to administer intelligence type questions are arrogant and stupid. What if they are morons? How can they judge intelligence if they are stupid? Often we see dumb people think they are smart and show their stupidity with these arrogant types of interviews and drive away qualified candidates. Who wants to work with an arrogant idiot.


5 posted on 03/11/2014 7:01:31 AM PDT by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Waaaaaait a minute.

That looks suspiciously like the post-entry exam for the Secretary of State position.

6 posted on 03/11/2014 7:04:10 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: SeekAndFind

Google as an advantage, they already know everything about everyone.


7 posted on 03/11/2014 7:08:57 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: SeekAndFind

1. about 4 degrees
2. with chances being only 10% for any two people, not just you only, it ain’t worth the bet.
3. if you broke down in a rainstorm, the chances are nil.
4. 100%
5. Nothing. If you are trying to find A shirt, as opposed to a particular shirt, just reach in and grab one.
This is an example of the “smart” people at Google not being smart at all. Ambiguous questions show a lack of clarity and precision in their thinking and communicating.


8 posted on 03/11/2014 7:12:34 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: CodeToad

RE: What if they are morons? How can they judge intelligence if they are stupid?

The assumption at places like Google is — if you can be hired at Google, you aren’t stupid ( not that I agree with them )...


9 posted on 03/11/2014 7:13:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The answer to each of these questions is, “You are totally f***ing with my head. Hahaha, I totally get it. Just give me the job already.”


10 posted on 03/11/2014 7:14:26 AM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Some of the dumbest people I have ever met are at google and the fact they use these childish and rather easy questions in an interview prove it.

A smart person knows how to ask pertinent questions relevant to the job and at a professional level.


11 posted on 03/11/2014 7:16:03 AM PDT by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I work in this space. Intelligence is not a great predictor of performance, although one must have certain minimum levels to function. I’ve seen people with average intelligence make $500k per year or more as VP’s and SVP’s. Want to know the “secret”? They work their butts off (80 hours or more per week), and they are effective people managers. As for the best predictor of future performance? Past performance.


12 posted on 03/11/2014 7:16:13 AM PDT by Ironfocus
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve been in IT since 1983. He’s right.


13 posted on 03/11/2014 7:22:41 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: SeekAndFind

1) “I wouldn’t know, its been 40 years since I last drove a school bus”
3) “CEO of AT&T so I can fire you for asking such a stupid question”
11) “Same as every tech company now. (shut up and get back to work)”
14) “It kind of works like OFA but without the arm breaking”
15) “Based on Apple’s track record, 6 months before the product is actually available to purchase.”


14 posted on 03/11/2014 7:23:42 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve been in IT since 1983. He’s right.

Laszlo Bock, I mean.

With a caveat: A degree (and test scores) are your ticket into the cubicle farm. Once you have been there a few years they SHOULD be useless. Your performance should tell the real story.


15 posted on 03/11/2014 7:24:19 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: oldbill
1. The hour hand travels 360/12=30 degrees per hour. One quarter hour would be 7.5 degrees. Or else "hands? I'm all digital, baby!"

2. Expected payout is 1 + 11/ 365 - 8008/365 = $20.91 loss.

3. 1 - 3√0.05 = 0.632

4. You can't form a triangle if one length is greater than half the total. Then do some handwaving to come up with a number, but that realization is the real trick.

5. (Downton Abbey version) I'll just have my valet do it.

16 posted on 03/11/2014 7:34:40 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Microsoft used to use brain teasers as well but they stopped that too a long time ago I heard.


17 posted on 03/11/2014 7:45:22 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: KarlInOhio
1. The hour hand travels 360/12=30 degrees per hour. One quarter hour would be 7.5 degrees. Or else "hands? I'm all digital, baby!" Ooops! - I have a 24 hour watch. 2. Expected payout is 1 + 11/ 365 - 8008/365 = $20.91 loss. 3. 1 - 3√0.05 = 0.632 I didn't know how to post square root symbols. 4. You can't form a triangle if one length is greater than half the total. Then do some handwaving to come up with a number, but that realization is the real trick. Sure you can - you just have a little left over on the long stick. They didn't say you had to make ends meet - just make a triangle. 5. (Downton Abbey version) I'll just have my valet do it. Aha! A FreeRepublic upper class member totally indifferent to the lower class.
18 posted on 03/11/2014 8:27:54 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: cuban leaf
With a caveat: A degree (and test scores) are your ticket into the cubicle farm. Once you have been there a few years they SHOULD be useless. Your performance should tell the real story.

Correct. That is a refinement of the principle "the best predictor of future performance is past performance." For a fresh-out, that's GPA and a degree. For an old hand, those things matter less than how you've been doing.

19 posted on 03/11/2014 9:02:17 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: CodeToad

Some of these “questions” seem geared at just throwing a curve at the contestants (I mean applicants) to see how they react. Or to provide “justification” when they discriminate against a candidate (well, he didn’t answer the superhero question the way I would’ve liked).

Rather arbitrary criteria, really.

And there are companies that want applicants to undergo a “personality test”. One such company I applied to (and didn’t work at, although I’ve run into people who did and hated it) took a degreed accountant and turned him into a software programming because the test “said so”.ve liked).

Rather arbitrary criteria, really.

And there are companies that want applicants to undergo a


20 posted on 03/11/2014 9:16:54 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: CodeToad

It is called the Dunning Krueger effect... pretty interesting stuff.


21 posted on 03/11/2014 1:51:25 PM PDT by willyd (I for one welcome our NSA overlords)
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