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7 Reasons why the Crimea has avoided bloodshed ....
Ipress, Ukraine ^ | 03.09.2014 | Alexander Briginets

Posted on 03/11/2014 10:20:42 AM PDT by Leo Carpathian

7 Reasons why the Crimea has avoided bloodshed and why region was and remains Ukrainian

 by Alexander Briginets

This top 7 reasons - is the result of my many meetings in the Crimea with people of different views and opinions. I am deeply convinced that the chances of implementation of Putin's scenario in Crimea are slim or nil.

The first reason - the right decisions and heroism of Ukrainian soldiers. Russia was expecting 2 options: aggressive response with firearms or defection to the Russian side. All commanders without central guidance made the right decision - passive resistance. This is the most complex decision because it requires balance of toughness and endurance.

The second reason - mild sabotage of Putin's instructions by the Russian army . Russian troops were confronted by units that are full of people they personally know the other side very well as they were often together on maneuvers and parades. Opening fire into friends - is not the same as shooting into Bandera or Chechen fighters.

The third reason - insufficient number of fanatical supporters of the Russian scenario among the civilians. In fact, the main occupation itself had to be done by so-called tourists. Civilians opted out from the conflict and supported the Cossacks. Such units are not sufficient for a serious confrontations and provocations .

The fourth reason is the controversial background of the Crimean leaders (Aksenov and Konstantinov), which are perceived as businessmen and criminals, rather than as political leaders. The pro-Russian movement has not created adequate leader who would lead the people. The current leaders (who are waiting for their arrest) , all on the whole pro-Russian criminal outcasts .

The fifth reason - the weakness of civilian society in the Crimea, the absence of civic leaders as such. Because there was not anyone who could have this authority on the ground to support Putin's idea. A Crimean Tatars - the only organized group - were against this scenario.

The sixth reason - that Putin has lost its status as leader not only in the world, but also in Russia by distancing himself from his soldiers in the Crimea. Likewise, his approval rating plummeted in Crimea due to outright lies, which are by the Crimeans perceived as such, even when dummed down by Russian propaganda. For example, claims of numerous killed. In the Crimea, as anywhere else, people know that there are no dead, and that Putin is a liar.

The seventh reason - the new government has made no major errors in the Crimean situation. However, I have not seen any positive solutions, but the key is that there are no major errors. In case of making positive decisions situation will be improving.

(Translation from Ukrainian)


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: crimea; crimeacrisis; russia; ukraine
"Referendum" under the guns? Russians "counting" the votes? 101% guaranteed to join Putin's empire.
1 posted on 03/11/2014 10:20:42 AM PDT by Leo Carpathian
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To: Leo Carpathian

There is a 100% chance of becoming Soviet Crimea because both choices on the referendum call for it. Join Russia, or Declare Independence and Join Russia.


2 posted on 03/11/2014 10:26:01 AM PDT by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: Leo Carpathian

Reads like wishful thinking. The author is right about one thing though. If the Tatars decide to oppose Putin he will have a real problem on his hands.


3 posted on 03/11/2014 10:27:52 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: Leo Carpathian

I hate to be a fly in the ointment, but Crimea has been Russian for 2 century’s. In the late 50’s, Nikita Khruschev decided to give it back to the Ukraine which was part of the Soviet Union. It didn’t mean anything at that time and it should be noted that Khruschev was a native Ukrainian. When the Soviet Union broke up, Crimea stayed a part of the Ukraine as long as Russian interests were preserved. The recent upheaval in Kiev changed the status and the Russians moved to preserve their interests. Why is anybody surprised?


4 posted on 03/11/2014 10:28:12 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Leo Carpathian

Just like obummer getting 100% of the votes in Philly. Yea right, i think kim hung chow got 100% of the NK vote!


5 posted on 03/11/2014 10:28:22 AM PDT by 9422WMR (: " Tolerance is the virtue of a man who has no convictions".)
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To: SeeSharp

Wishful thinking is right. I’d say there was no bloodshed because Russia’s victory was total. Crimea will be Russia. Maybe you can say that Ukraine’s military did show wise and brave restraint, which lead to no shots fired. If this doesn’t change, Ukraine might be able to keep their eastern half.


6 posted on 03/11/2014 10:33:20 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Ingtar

“There is a 100% chance of becoming Soviet Crimea because both choices on the referendum call for it. Join Russia, or Declare Independence and Join Russia.”

_______________________

Vote to join Russia now, or vote to join Russia in the third Wednesday of November!

It’s so blatantly dishonest, it’s almost laughable. It’s good old-fashioned ham-fisted Soviet techniques on full display.


7 posted on 03/11/2014 10:33:46 AM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: Leo Carpathian

Moooooo plop, plop, plop.....


8 posted on 03/11/2014 10:37:29 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

North America was Native for God knows how long. What’s your point?


9 posted on 03/11/2014 11:10:40 AM PDT by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
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To: demshateGod

What victory? Russians are kind of wandering aimlessly around there, not knowing what to do next, just pissing off locals. Decisive actions are still ahead.


10 posted on 03/11/2014 11:14:06 AM PDT by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
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To: demshateGod
I can't say I'm 100% convinced Putin will annex Crimea. Russia did sign the treaty guaranteeing the territorial integrity of Ukraine in exchange for Ukraine, the worlds third largest nuclear power, giving up its nuclear weapons. The diplomatic fallout from defaulting on that treaty would pretty bad for Russia. Who would ever treat with the Russians again? That wasn't just some little trade deal.

I suspect Putin will keep his troops in Crimea until the new regime comes to terms with him. And that is exactly what they are going to do. Remember Putin cut off gas supplies to Ukraine after the so-called "Orange Revolution". Tymoshenko wasted no time going to Moscow on her knees then (Well.. she did try stealing Germany's gas for a few days but immediately got caught - LOL). The new regime will soon bend their knees as well. That's my prediction. Let's just hope that whatever happens will be bloodless.

11 posted on 03/11/2014 11:44:34 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: Leo Carpathian
Crimea is a done dela. The question is will Ukraine end up looking like

Look familiar?

12 posted on 03/11/2014 12:04:20 PM PDT by McGruff (I do not like the current Uncle Sam...)
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To: Leo Carpathian

Nah, it’s because they’re mostly all Orthodox Christians.


13 posted on 03/11/2014 12:12:10 PM PDT by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Again this thing about Kruschev being Ukrainian. The guy was Russian peasant, born near Ukrainian border, moved to Ukraine as a teenager, liked corn etc. but a Russian nonetheless.

Giving Crimea to Ukraine in 1954 was meaningless in practical terms, but it had been a symbolic gesture at the time. It was the 300 year anniversary gift to Ukraine for joining Russia. These 300 years were disastrous for Ukraine, especially the 20th century, and this “gift” would never repay the harm that had been done to the Ukrainian people. So acting on principles alone, this gift should have been returned with a note “Go f*** yourself”

But Ukraine accepted it, thereby putting value on the centuries and miliions of people that were lost. Kind of sad.
Somewhat similar to the state of Israel accepting money from Germany for the people killed in the Holocaust


14 posted on 03/11/2014 12:41:32 PM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

The Panama Canal belonged to the USA too until Jimmy (Obama I) gave it away. Using Putin logic, we can snatch it back.


15 posted on 03/11/2014 12:45:45 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: demshateGod

There will be a push back. Count on it. I know. Putin’s not going to get off without a fight.


16 posted on 03/11/2014 12:46:56 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: Ivan Mazepa
You do realize that the young communist like Kruschev were in Ukraine to starve the Ukrainians in 1933; they were not student tourists. I mean they were there waging war and mass murder in the millions on the Ukrainians.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afVdnbMd6gA

17 posted on 03/11/2014 12:50:24 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: Ingtar

18 posted on 03/11/2014 1:01:37 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

oops, I messed up


19 posted on 03/11/2014 1:03:26 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: elhombrelibre

That’s fine with me.


20 posted on 03/11/2014 3:22:27 PM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Probably Alaska is okay with you too.


21 posted on 03/12/2014 1:26:35 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

The paranthesis (Crimea-Khruschev-Ukraine), 1954-2014, is CLOSED.

More than that.
The money Russia paid to Ukraine gov. for leasing the navy base (some $200 million a year) will go now to the budget of Crimea proper and the city of Sevastopol.


22 posted on 03/12/2014 2:13:49 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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