Skip to comments.MAN CLEARED OF ASSAULT IN CAT POOP CASE
Posted on 03/11/2014 11:23:56 AM PDT by bkopto
A 60-year-old British man was cleared of an assault charge in the case of a fight between neighbors that began with an argument about throwing cat feces.
Chippenham Magistrates' Court in Wiltshire, England, heard Matthew Lucas, 38, confronted neighbor Douglas Pidgeon, 60, after finding cat droppings that appeared to have been thrown into his yard, the Daily Telegraph reported Tuesday.
Lucas said he was concerned his 5-year-old daughter could have touched the cat droppings and suffered ill effects.
Pidgeon told the court he threw the feces over the fence because he was tired of the Lucas' cat using his "garden as a lavatory."
"I went out to cut the grass and I scooped it up and lobbed it over the fence. I didn't think anything more about it," Pidgeon said. "I know it was their cat. I just threw it. That was it. I didn't really think about it to be honest. I agree the sensible thing to do would have been to go and speak to the owners. I have never spoken to them about it. It was not the appropriate thing to do, it was quite irrational. I didn't expect anyone to come around at all to be honest. I was quite shocked when he did come to my door."
The argument between the two men turned physical, and during the struggle Lucas' forehead collided with Pidgeon's nose, breaking the skin of the bridge.
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When confronted with unwanted cats in our yard I get out the .22, do a little target practice, and then hang the carcass on a fence because the crows have to eat, too.
What’s that old saying? ....................”you can pick your nose but you can’t pick your neighbors.
Territoriality is a term associated with nonverbal communication that refers to how people use space to communicate ownership/occupancy of areas and possession The anthropological concept branches from the observations of animal ownership behaviors. We can consider that this personal space is like a bubble that one doesn’t want invaded................lest we throw cat poop on ‘em.
Another brilliant statement from another warped mind, unless you were being sarcastic in which case you failed awesomely!
His cat, his poop. What’s wrong with returning his property to him?
“Lucas said he was concerned his 5-year-old daughter could have touched the cat droppings and suffered ill effects.
My children learned at about age 1 1/2 not to touch poop.
Manners learned in a zoo cage in Oregon.
We had a cat in our apartment complex that would run up to and claw our screen window to try to intimidate our cat. The screen wasn't in that great of shape after numerous clawings and so next time the cat ran up to our window it got a little surprise.
The next time I saw the cat, it was completely across a grassy area and couldn't run fast enough when I saw me. I never realize that cats could fly. It leaped up to the second floor from the ground. Apparently its home. Easily eight feet. Lol.
Anyway, problem solved.
Excellent graphic! Thank you!!!
I bet it is a tough job, too almost like herding cats!!
No sarcasm at all. We live on a ranch in Wyoming and stray cats sometimes wander onto the property and, when they do, they end up as food for the crows. This is because we don’t want them fighting with our barn cats and maybe infecting them with feline leukemia, I don’t want them biting or scratching my kids, I don’t want them attacking my chickens, and we don’t want them colonizing our property.
Besides, I’m saving these cats from the coyotes and the occasional eagles who think that cats are tasty snacks.
To answer the questions of the psychotic cat lovers who will no doubt be DEEPLY OFFENDED at my post:
1. No, I’m too busy to take time out of my day and try to trap a stray or feral cat and then drive it 45 miles into town to the animal shelter so the animal shelter can kill it.
2. Yes, I know you’re DEEPLY OFFENDED by how we manage our property. Get over it.
3. No, I don’t go around hurting cats off of my property. That’s because they’re on someone else’s property and it’s not my place to do that. In Wyoming it’s good manners to respect other people’s land.
4. No, my older barn cats don’t wander off. The ones that do end up as coyote food. No, I don’t get upset with the coyotes for eating cats.
How do we know they weren’t throwing food?
I mean, after all, it is Great Britain.
Too bad this happened in England, where you probably need a permit for a BB gun. In Chicago the rats look like small cats - huge! I often use my Gamo air rifle on them but must often finish the job with an entrenching tool because the pellet only seems to stun them.
In the city that might be a good idea (assuming your city won't call using a BB or pellet gun a felony discharge of a firearm - might want to check your local laws on that). When you live two miles from the main road you learn that chasing a cat away is a temporary thing when you've got the only shelter for miles around. Living out here comes with a whole different set of rules.
In Chicago I hear the Democrats sometimes look like people. Does the entrenching tool work on them, too?
I had some eighbors whose children would poop in the yard because their Mom would lock them out all day so her house would stay clean..
Then the kids would lob it over the fence into my backyard so their Mom wouldn’t know they pooped in the yard (encopresis?)..
Other than that, and the husband beating the crap out of his wife, and coming over to borrow orange extract, vanilla extract, or cooking sherry when he ran out of booze, they were okay neighbors.
OOps, eighbors =Neighbors
Careful now; the cat cultists will react with more venom and vile than you can imagine if you even joke about hurting their precious felines. More so than they would if it was an innocent human being.
The entrenching tool will work,but is very messy.I suggest a sock full of wet sand,just smack ‘em behind the ear.
“...Living out here comes with a whole different set of rules. ...”
Which is why you live out there in the first place... for a little bit of freedom and independence.
Good on ya!
Try that within my view and I’ll see your ass in jail.
It’s not just about cats, it’s dogs as well. Would it be ok for me to shoot your dog when it runs into my yard and is not threatening me?
Anyway, I don't get it why people think that it is okay to let their cats run. Maybe the owners think that they are denying their animal in some way.
When they becomes feral or mean they become more than just a nuisance and then they are no longer a pet. The cat is a wild animal like a coyote.
In the city, if a cat runs wild, its life expectancy is much much shorter. Lots of cat fights, cars, dogs,... It is a tough life — I saw someones cat wandering our neighborhood when it was below zero degrees the other day.
I wish. Believe it or not, I am a volunteer on a city committee along with a number of fellow professionals and a few aldermen. The politicos definitely lower the group’s average IQ. I am often invited by the mayor’s office to press conferences (mostly to act as background for Emanuel) but I always politely refuse. If they only knew what I thought of them.
Killing ferrel cats is legal and encouraged round these parts. Got a State Cop that lives next door that we compete with for most kills. Why don't you start your Crusade there? ;)
My aunt had some neighbors who locked the children out of the house too. It’s not uncommon, I guess.
“I know it was their cat....I DNA’d it, found a—hole prints and saw the little muggy filing his claws at my sidewalk, I did, I did.
If you're within my wiew when I do that again then you'll be standing on my property and the crows will be eating very well that day.
Of course ! It's your cat's God given right to crap all over your neighbor's properties, kill the birds and small animals in their yards, sleep on their cars in the sun, etc.
Only an idiot would dispute that !
Like me. If your cat's crapping in my yard or sleeping on my car I'll give 'em a .177 enema.
‘Cat cultists’ - I like that!
Just as a general observation I’ve long observed that liberals tend to favor cats while conservatives tend to favor dogs.
weve got a lib neighbor who spays rescue cats and then lets them roam my 80 acres - bastards kill all the songbirds and rabbits...Im waiting for the day to see that rough legged hawk carrying one or two away
I understand what you are saying but let me try to explain a bit. Most that live in fly over country have been there our whole lives.
Generally two things happen that create dogs or cats that run. One is the idiot city dweller that got a kitten or puppy for their kid. They don’t have the brains to teach it anything so after a year or so of crapping on everything in their home they don’t have the guts to drop them off at Animal control so they drive to the country and throw it out of the vehicle.
The second are Idiot City Dwellers that transplant their arses into a 1 acre lot to get out of the City. But Just like California Liberal Transplants who destroy other places when they move, the city dwellers bring their attitudes with them. All that open country...You would not believe how many times I have heard transplants say “well, we moved to the country so our aminals could run free.” Um HELLO? There are both Leash laws for dogs and roaming laws for cats. It is ILLEGAL to let a cat roam. PERIOD. The reason is because they transmit desease and they Kill any small animal they can.
As to a dog loose in your yard. The Law round here says you can’t shoot a dog unless it is attempting to harass livestock. Which I have done. Yeah someone’s pet. To bad, after returning it repeatedly and warning them of the law, they continued to let them run...
Funny thing, the Idiots just go get another dog. If you catch it and take it to the pound even if it has a license they just charge 25 bucks to the owners and the next day they are back. Killing Chickens, chasing Farm Animals etc.
Dead cat is great Fox bait...Just in case you didn’t know. :)
Guy I knew was having problems with his neighbor’s 20+ cats using his kids sand box as a litter box... kept chasing them, to no avail.... Owner would do nothing about the problem.
One can of tuna soaked in Prestone antifreeze solved the problem real quick...
Problem was that the cat’s owner did not eat it!!! He was beyond pissed though.
What about wandering dogs? Or do you just shoot at cats? You sound like some of my mental midget inlaws who would take cats and bash them against a tree just because they didn’t like them. You’d go them one better and shoot the cat sleeping on your car while it is still on the car.
Oh wait, your well groomed lawn is more important. I guess you’d have no problem with me killing your dog if it takes a dump in my yard, my right I guess.
Just like the cops who come into a house and shoot the dog that a lot of posters here rail about.
You’re the type of gun owner who gives gun owners a bad name and and would shoot at a kid or the dog he’s walking across your yard.
I’d still ensure your ass would be in jail.
Big talk for such a small mind. While I stand full up for the 2nd Amendment, I’d actively work to see your guns taken from you; you’re obviously dangerous to anyone who might set you off.
Peggy Bundy’s family?
I have always had dogs on the farm and yes, have had problems with them roaming over the years. But they served a valuable purpose, often being a driveway doorbell... I always try to be the best possible neighbor and fasten them when necessary.
Recently had a confrontation with a neighbor (female animal lover nut) who would not control her dogs after about a dozen warnings. I printed out a copy of the Pennsylvania Game Law concerning dogs chasing wild game and gave it to her after she threatened to call the SPCA on me if I harmed her dogs.
I gave her a copy of the law:
§ 2381. Dogs pursuing, injuring or killing game or wildlife. Except as otherwise provided in this title or by commission regulation, it is unlawful for any person controlling or harboring a dog to permit the dog to chase, pursue, follow upon the track of, injure or kill any game or wildlife at any time.
§ 2384. Declaring dogs public nuisances. Any dog pursuing or following upon the track of any big game animal in such close pursuit as to endanger the big game animal or to be in the act of attacking the big game animal at any time is hereby declared to be a public nuisance and may be destroyed
as provided in this title.
§ 2385. Destruction of dogs declared public nuisances.
(a) General rule.—A dog declared a public nuisance pursuant to section 2384 (relating to declaring dogs public nuisances)may be killed by any commission officer at any time or by any person when the dog is found to be in the act of attacking a big game animal.
(b) Reports after killing dog.—Any person who kills a licensed dog pursuant to subsection (a) and section 2384 shall notify the owner or a commission officer within 48 hours after the dog was killed. The person who killed the dog or the commission officer who receives the report shall disclose to the owner of the dog the time, place, circumstances relating to the death of the dog and the location of the dog’s remains. All equipment found on the dog, including collar, name tag, license tag or any other personal property, shall be returned to the owner of the dog within ten days after conclusion of any prosecution or immediately if no prosecution is contemplated.
(c) Inapplicability of certain laws.—
(1) The provisions of 18 Pa.C.S. § 5511 (relating to cruelty to animals) shall not apply to any person killing any dog pursuant to subsection (a).
(2) The provisions of 42 Pa.C.S. Ch. 85 (relating to matters affecting government units) shall not apply to any agency, commission or department or any officers charged by law with enforcing the provisions of this title.
This pretty much says it all... (cruelty to animals) shall not apply to any person killing any dog pursuant to subsection (a).
(a turkey is a big game animal in PA)
I would not harm the dog..... just needed to rattle the nutty dog owner into reality...
Where does it end? That line of thinking just leads to a poo arms race!
“Would it be ok for me to shoot your dog when it runs into my yard and is not threatening me?”
That depends. Are you a police officer or no?
Some Californian moved down the street from my folks in AZ, with a bunch of cats that they let roam free, just as you say. The only problem is, in that part of the country, the neighbors don’t need to shoot feral cats, because the wildlife takes care of them.
Within a week, the lady was putting up “Missing Cat” flyers. I’m not sure if anybody had the heart to tell her that they were bobcat feed by that time.
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