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What has happened to flash videos?
Self | 3/11/'14 | Zionist Conspirator

Posted on 03/11/2014 1:16:22 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator

Seven years ago this summer, I upgraded from dial-up to DSL. For the first time I could actually play videos, including live streams. And this is how things stood . . . until recently.

For about a month or so (at least) I have noticed that flash videos have been playing very sluggishly, with a lot of lagging and stuttering. I have attempted some fixes which have improved YouTube, but there is still trouble elsewhere, especially live feeds, which might as well still be on dial-up.

I have been told I'm not the only one having this problem, and that some recent changes to either flash or the player is causing this.

Here's some quick information about my system: I have a three year old desktop PC with Windows XP (yeah, yeah, I know; it's the end of the world!). My default browser is Firefox, and the trouble seems worse on that browser than on IE (though it exists there too). Live feeds are unplayable on either browser.

I regularly clean out my browser cache. I also have AVG PC Tune-Up and run it regularly. I have moreover cleaned out my flash cache and browsing data, as well as downloaded some alleged Adobe flash bug fixes. I remain on DSL (cable is not available where I live). For the record, all other media players (Real, QuickTime, WMP, iTunes, etc.) don't have any problems. It's just the flash, which is the format used by most online videos, including live feeds.

Does anyone have any advice? (NB: Please read the above paragraphs so you don't suggest something I've already done.)


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1 posted on 03/11/2014 1:16:22 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Watching this thread, because lately YouTube playback has stunk at my house with DSL as well.


2 posted on 03/11/2014 1:18:06 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Try the Chrome browser, it’s free and Flash is built right in to the browser.


3 posted on 03/11/2014 1:18:50 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Yo-Yo
Watching this thread, because lately YouTube playback has stunk at my house with DSL as well.

Misery loves company!

Don't even try to watch a live telecast on flash. You'll think you're back in the stone age.

4 posted on 03/11/2014 1:19:50 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Is your computer plugged in?


5 posted on 03/11/2014 1:20:38 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

They are moving away from Flash. But, now, so many vids are HD and even while compressed carry so much more information than they did 7 years ago. The files are huge. Do you know your average download speed? You can check it with this link. That will help pinpoint the problem:

http://www.speedtest.net/


6 posted on 03/11/2014 1:21:29 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Zionist Conspirator

1. run a speedtest

2. When you discover ATT is providing you with about 1/9 the speed you are paying them for call them and tell them that you have a problem with your line.

3. When they suggest you upgrade to U-verse, throw a fit and ask why you would upgrade when they’re not even providing the expensive service you’re already paying for, and say your next call is to Xfinity.

4. They will fix your speed within three minutes.


7 posted on 03/11/2014 1:22:16 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: Zionist Conspirator

This might sound odd but upgrade your video driver.


8 posted on 03/11/2014 1:22:19 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Yo-Yo

The work around is to get a good YT downloader then play the vids offline using a good Flash player like GOM player. Works very well for me and gives me much more control over playback.


9 posted on 03/11/2014 1:22:34 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Truth sounds like hate...to those who hate truth.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Right click in video.
Go to settings.
Set storage to unlimited.
That made some improvement on my machine.
I also have an MSI motherboard that came with something called “Network Genie”, I can set the network card in it for “streaming” which massively helps me.

However, I still get the buffering events at times.
Seems to be Youtube.


10 posted on 03/11/2014 1:23:06 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Type of processor, amount of RAM, internet speed, on board graphics or video card, processes running the background can effect your video.


11 posted on 03/11/2014 1:23:15 PM PDT by Dallas59 (Obama: The first "White Black" President.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Yeah. I’m well aware of this because I’m on satellite and it really cuts into my monthly 16 gig.


12 posted on 03/11/2014 1:24:00 PM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Jeff Chandler

Ha ha. Very funny. It is to laugh.

13 posted on 03/11/2014 1:24:30 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

It hardly seems worth discussing a Windows XP installation, but.... how much RAM do you have? It is probably an older machine so the available memory could be a real issue. Hard drive capacity vs available space is something else to check. Defrag. Check to see if your swap file is system managed. Make sure you don’t have multiple security software programs installed. Turn off system restore and turn it back on after you apply.


14 posted on 03/11/2014 1:24:35 PM PDT by webheart (Watch out for the bots! They will disagree with you!)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Are you logged on?


15 posted on 03/11/2014 1:24:44 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Install Disconnect to your browser and you can block out the thirty or more firms that spy on you when you watch YouTube. I did this and it improved the video quite a lot.

https://disconnect.me/


16 posted on 03/11/2014 1:25:14 PM PDT by MeganC (Support Matt Bevin to oust Mitch McConnell! https://mattbevin.com/)
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To: Jeff Chandler
I think my computer is plugged up. Where can I find a digital drano?
17 posted on 03/11/2014 1:25:49 PM PDT by mountainlion
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Lol, man I love the Tunes...


18 posted on 03/11/2014 1:26:54 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Zionist Conspirator

You have “drag” on your line because you’re watching the video...and NSA is watching you watch your video.


19 posted on 03/11/2014 1:27:25 PM PDT by moovova
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To: cuban leaf

Ah. Gotcha. Yeah I’m on cable and have a 100MB download speed with no cap so I have no issues with buffering. Wanted to go with Satellite for television but the Internet speed was just too slow.

Other things you can try that are suggested here is to switch browser to Chrome (I use Firefox as I, ironically, discovered that over time Chrome had issues with YouTube).

Also, set your browser settings to clear the cache on close or manually clear it frequently. A “clogged” cache can really screw it up.

But it may be absolutely no more than “bigger” videos that outstrip your download speed.


20 posted on 03/11/2014 1:28:12 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Zionist Conspirator

get youtube downloader, download the video then watch the video. It is a PIA but at least you can get through a video without pauses.

I’ve been having the same problem.


21 posted on 03/11/2014 1:29:41 PM PDT by dangerdoc (I don't think you should be forced to make the same decision I did even if I know I'm right.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Firefox and Flash seem to be getting along worse and worse every release. Meanwhile they’re both kind of pigs in the first place. Reduce the pig count use something other Firefox to watch Flash, and pray for the day HTML5 kills Flash.


22 posted on 03/11/2014 1:30:38 PM PDT by discostu (Call it collect, call it direct, call it TODAY!)
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To: dangerdoc

My brother does that as he lives in a rural area and all he can get is satellite and the download speed just isn’t very good. Good suggestion.


23 posted on 03/11/2014 1:31:08 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Dallas59
I use Speccy...tells you just about everything about your computer...


24 posted on 03/11/2014 1:32:48 PM PDT by Dallas59 (Obama: The first "White Black" President.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

What you didn’t say is what screen resolution you are running.

Too high a resolution and the videos will either studder,lag or cause and error.

I know because my old XP machine did the same thing when I went higher that 1024 x 768 resolution.

And I had 2 gig of ram at the time.

Still lagged.


25 posted on 03/11/2014 1:32:50 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to being a liberal)
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To: discostu

Agreed. As I understand it, most YouTube vids will play in HTML5 if you have a player. That may be a solution.


26 posted on 03/11/2014 1:33:08 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: discostu

Amen. Flash is a leaky ship in a monsoon There is a reason IOS does not support it.


27 posted on 03/11/2014 1:36:26 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Hi ZC - the one thing I haven’t seen mentioned (so I’ll mention it myself) is what version of flash you have installed. I’ve seen several instances of “stuttering video” - including one on a freshly imaged computer. What I found was an existing install of ver. 11 (something) and a partial install of ver. 12 (something).

I would uninstall whatever you currently have and then reinstall to get the latest version.


28 posted on 03/11/2014 1:38:09 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Bigh4u2

I did go 1080 had for 2ne1’s new video “Come Back Home” though, I almost never care about the resolution


29 posted on 03/11/2014 1:38:56 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Darksheare
Right click in video.
Go to settings.
Set storage to unlimited.

I appreciate the advice, but I can't find a "storage" option anywhere.

30 posted on 03/11/2014 1:39:55 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: webheart
Hard drive capacity vs available space is something else to check. Defrag.

I degrag regularly. It indicates now that defragging is not necessary at this time.

I always leave something I've already tried, don't I?

31 posted on 03/11/2014 1:42:01 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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::Sigh:: Look, folks, I know you're all trying to help and I appreciate it. But you're missing something I said.

YouTube still has periods where it works okay. It's live feeds that don't work at all.

There.

I have RealDownload but I never use it. Sometimes it doesn't work at all, but it won't help with live feeds.

32 posted on 03/11/2014 1:45:21 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
My old computer died last fall and I had to get a new one. It was then that I noticed that videos would play but would be fuzzy until they had played for a minute or so then would suddenly become clear. I can start and stop them, allowing more to load, then start it over and it will all play clear.

I thought it was an issue with the new 'puter. It happens with Youtube vids in particular. PITA.

33 posted on 03/11/2014 1:46:04 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Okers.
Do you see the settings option on right clicking in the video?
There will be several icons at the bottom of that item.
First from left is display, second is privacy.
Third icon is a folder shaped thing.
That’s where you’ll the local storage option.


34 posted on 03/11/2014 1:46:15 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: rockrr
Hi ZC - the one thing I haven’t seen mentioned (so I’ll mention it myself) is what version of flash you have installed. I’ve seen several instances of “stuttering video” - including one on a freshly imaged computer. What I found was an existing install of ver. 11 (something) and a partial install of ver. 12 (something).

I would uninstall whatever you currently have and then reinstall to get the latest version.

Thank you, but I've checked my version numerous times and it's the latest one, I assure you. Maybe I need an older one? They worked better back then.

35 posted on 03/11/2014 1:47:52 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Right click on a Youtube video, select "settings" from the pop-up menu, uncheck "Enable hardware exceleration", click "Close", restart browser. Helped me. But, keep an eye on it ... I swear it flips itself back!


36 posted on 03/11/2014 1:49:00 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: GeronL

Yeah, the ‘odd’ resolutions didn’t work very well for me either,.

Now I have a Core i5 with 6gb of ram. And so running 1600x900 is not problem anymore.


37 posted on 03/11/2014 1:52:47 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to being a liberal)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Have you tried changing the “Hardware acceleration” setting in Flash?


38 posted on 03/11/2014 1:53:04 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Darksheare
Thanks, Darksheare. It's done now.

I haven't checked it out on a live feed yet, though. I'll do some research tonight. Maybe the one I've been using to test is just a lousy feed.

39 posted on 03/11/2014 1:53:06 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: Bigh4u2

My resolution is 800 by 600 pixels. I like large letters.


40 posted on 03/11/2014 1:55:03 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I’ve never had luck backstepping the flash player but I have Firefox. Build 21 was a good one and I usually stick to it. And just because you have the latest does not mean that it is functioning properly. I find flash to be buggy at best and wish there was a better way ;’(

Good luck

PS: Sometimes it is simply a matter of how late you signed on to a live feed. Snooze you lose (you get in but the quality is crap).


41 posted on 03/11/2014 1:55:09 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Yo-Yo

Eeevil Bastages at Verizon are trying to force you to upgrade to FIOS.


42 posted on 03/11/2014 1:58:00 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Ok.

Just a thought since that seemed to be the problem with my videos.


43 posted on 03/11/2014 2:01:43 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to being a liberal)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Youtube seems to be a lousy feed itself.
:-/


44 posted on 03/11/2014 2:03:33 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I hear what you are saying. It truly sounds like it is an Internet speed issue for you. I use YouTube a fair amount and have problems with neither but I have a very fast download speed. Quite frankly, over the years, I have never found changing settings of various types to work very well. While sometimes that is the problem, it is often download speed that is the culprit. Sometimes it is the source of the live feed.

Anymore, if you are running much less than 20MB download your just going to get buffering from time to time and live feeds can be problematic. And again, on the live feed thing, sometimes the source tries to do it on the cheap and it just doesn’t work. Also, big events overtax the server. Even HBOGo crashed the other evening.


45 posted on 03/11/2014 2:08:18 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Zionist Conspirator

NSA spying ...


46 posted on 03/11/2014 2:15:08 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: ShadowAce

Computer Tech Ping!


47 posted on 03/11/2014 2:27:10 PM PDT by CedarDave (Obama - "That's the good thing as a President, I can do whatever I want" (02/10/14 declaration))
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To: babble-on

I Pay for 18mbps happily get 20 consistently on Uverse


48 posted on 03/11/2014 2:35:58 PM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep rigsupreme Splasht)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Your problem may be XP.

Before I finally bought a new Win7 laptop and Desktop, my XP got slower and slower. Previously, I could open several video windows. But, websites and videos grew in size, my XP just could not handle the load.

==

Additionally, depending on your browser version and flash version, Firefox around version 12 had problems with the version of Flash player.

Upgrade one and it created conflicts with another.

I finally quit updating most of the Win7 OS and programs. I upgrade Java, for example, and it conflicts with some other programs. I upgrade Win 7 OS and it conflicts. Firefox and Flash, the same.

I am currently at Firefox 15 (28 or so is the current on) and my Flash is about 10 generations behind. But they work, and I am tired of installing software updates and upgrades that cause problems with other installed software.


49 posted on 03/11/2014 2:55:05 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: MeganC

Thanks for the link. Gotta try it later.


50 posted on 03/11/2014 2:56:42 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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