Skip to comments.Big guns: Army soldiers to get powerful new Swedish-made tank-stopper
Posted on 03/11/2014 2:57:21 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo
The U.S. Army is bringing in the really, really big guns.
Regular units will soon be issued a Swedish-built "recoilless" rifle that can fire an 84-mm. projectile nearly a mile and has the power to take out a tank. The 15-pound guns, which soldiers hold just above the shoulder to fire, were previously only issued to Special Forces. But after soldiers in Afghanistan repeatedly complained that insurgents were wise to the limitations of their M-16 rifles, the Pentagon has decided to make the Swedish-made Multi-Role Anti-Armor Anti-Personnel Weapon System (MAAWS)-- or the M3 Carl Gustaf for short-- standard issue.
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Old Carl has been around a long time.
Sort of the ultimate bazooka
It’s about time they bring back the recoilless rifle.
It’s all right, Officer. This is my new smooth-bore, single shot target rifle. California-legal. Nothing to see here...
Local gun range (indoor) has a full-auto event about 3 times a year. Once they had a WWII era KG in 9mm with 25 round sticks.
What a hoot!
CG not KG
A smooth-bore rifle?
You have to wash them off with powdered water.
The Russian 14.5mm anti-tank round became a machine gun round for tanks for AA use.
The LAW was useless according to the people who used it. A 3.5” bazooka was better.
They still use the RR at ski places to start avalanches.
What’s a CG?
My 18 year-old son has a Mosin Nagant and an Arisaka
The 5.56 round is OK in a short-barreled carbine at short urban and jungle ranges.
But in the mountains and plains a much bigger and heavier round is called for.
7.62x51 is the minimum.
Different weapons, tactics and cartridges for different environments.
Or, just bring back the M-14 with no auto selection.
My first reaction was negative because our own anti-tank weapons have so much more range and power. But I suspect the anticipated primary use is against insurgents out of range of small arms or hard insurgent targets, not main battle tanks. Plus, I’m sure it’s a lot cheaper to fire.
Didn’t we, the before-Democrat-screwed USAR, have a 105mm recoilless rifle, already? I remember, it was Jeep-mounted; tripod mounted; modified to mount six of them armored vehicle.
The 7.62 round has more of a “flinch factor”. I routinely shoot a 7.62x54 for the Mosin. The 7.62x39 in my SKS is a very good round and there is a lot of it.
106mm. the six vehicle was an Ontos
I always have loved Saabs
Please stand at 500 meters and let me try out the poodle shooter on you.
Tank armor has become impervious to the reckless rifles of yore.
Saw these weapons in use watching an episode on the American Heroes Channel about the battle for Hue. Lots of recoilless rifle shots and an Ontos or two tooling around.
Hey that’s pretty cool. Looks kinda like a STEN except with the magazine in the bottom, and not as cheap.
He ain't buyin' musket. Ix-nay in front of the ops-cay...
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
Here’s what I found on the range of the M3
150 m against tanks
700 m against stationary targets
1000 m against stationary targets w/rocket-boosted ammunition
Ah, not quite. A “bazooka” is a rocket launcher and a smooth bore. It fires a spin stabilized rocket, usually anti-tank (HEAT), but also HE, TP, and WP Smoke.
The Carl Gustav is an 84mm recoilless rifle with a rifled barrel. The round has a pre-engraved rotating band and the rifling spins the round — just the the projectile from a rifled firearm. The Carl Gustav fires HE, HEAT, APERS, WP Smoke, and TP rounds. Recoilless rifles have greater range and accuracy than the smooth bore bazooka.
Why does the USA have to buy things from Sweden? Can’t we make a good weapon? Next thing we will be buying Rafeal fighters from France and Lepard Tanks from the Germans.
They are old technology and can be bought cheaper than we can make them.
The Armed forces also had the M-67 90MM Recoilless rifle in inventory. Max effective range 400 meters max range 2300 meters weight 37 lbs. Stadia range finding reticle in the telescopic sight. Fires a HEAT and canister round We had them in Vietnam and in my National Guard 19-77 TOE MP unit
The M72 66mm LAW HEAT round was pretty effective against NVA fighting positions and bunkers and everybody could carry 3 or 4 of them each. It was even fairly effective against the side and rear armor of main battle tanks (NOT the front) if you remembered that the minimumum arming distance for the rocket’s fuse was 10 meters or so. Any closer and the unarmed rocket would just bounce off.
I know a Swedish guy, who retired from Aimpoint. He said they sold over a million sights to the Army and Marines, so we have been getting stuff from Sweden for awhile.
Oh no doubt they were better than nothing. But the military scrapped them immediately.
Anyway, the Russkies flooded the world with RPG;s and they were easy to pick up.
Sure, as long as I can use a M1A in return.
I'd take that bet any day, as long as I had something to win by it.