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Disney’s Billion Dollar Theme Park Gamble (MyMagic+ System)
PJMedia ^ | March 12, 2014 | Chris Queen

Posted on 03/12/2014 8:08:19 AM PDT by C19fan

Guests travel to Walt Disney World seeking the ultimate vacation experience, and Disney continues to develop new ways to deliver the best possible vacation. The company has invested over a billion dollars in their MyMagic+ system, which employs wearable technology and RFID (radio frequency identification) chips to fine tune and customize guests’ experiences. Disney has high hopes for MyMagic+, but so far many guests aren’t sold on the idea.

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TOPICS: Travel
KEYWORDS: disney; mymagic; rfid; surveillance
Big Brother meets Disney. Disney Corp can do what it wants since nobody is forced to go to Disney unless you want to deal with nagging kids for you parenthood life. But the system is rigged to give a major advantage to people who stay at Disney owned resorts since they can make reservations for rides months in advance while the rest of us have to wait at kiosks hoping to get a spot before they are all filled up. When we have been to Disney we used more than the now allotted three reservation under the old FastPass system.
1 posted on 03/12/2014 8:08:19 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: null and void

Ping.


2 posted on 03/12/2014 8:09:42 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: C19fan

Disney is the entertainment demon for the NWO. They lead children astray into a world of falsity and the occult. Poor Walt is spinning in his grave.


3 posted on 03/12/2014 8:10:21 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("How long, O Lord, holy and true?" - Rev. 6:10)
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To: C19fan

This outfir is MUCH better(and CLEANER) than ANY Pro-Sodomite “Disney” ANYTHING:
http://cedarfair.com/ir/company/properties/


4 posted on 03/12/2014 8:12:52 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Dr. Thorne

Walt was the forerunner of Agenda 21 - Communist concept.


5 posted on 03/12/2014 8:14:48 AM PDT by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA.)
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To: C19fan

I am SOOO happy my Disney days are over.


6 posted on 03/12/2014 8:23:21 AM PDT by DManA
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To: C19fan

I follow some of the WDW-fan sites.

All of them have a very negative opinion of this new system.

It has resulted in longer waits for rides, a tremendous loss of sponteneity, poorer in-park service and inequity for those who don’t want to pay for a tiny and overpriced WDW resort room.

Long-time Disney fans are reporting that Disney has changed drastically for the worse and many are not planning to return.


7 posted on 03/12/2014 8:28:43 AM PDT by kidd
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To: C19fan

I never particularly wanted to go to Disneyworld. But my Parents took me, and my Sister, when I was about 11.

What do I remember? Long lines. And that’s about all. I’d have preferred a Major League Baseball game.


8 posted on 03/12/2014 8:31:31 AM PDT by JoeDetweiler
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To: C19fan

This nothing, they have in the near future plans of a Total Rekall Walt Disney experience, and you never wait in line, it never rains,its all done at home.
Plus you get to meet Walt Disney himself, for an additional fee he becomes your personal tour guide.

Theme parks of the future, at home.

You will never know the difference.


9 posted on 03/12/2014 8:33:18 AM PDT by Spartan302
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To: TNoldman

quite possibly the most ignorant statement ever posted on FR....Walt Disney was a staunch conservative and leading anti-communist going back to the 30’s when he battled unions in front of his Hollywood studios because he knew they (unions) had communists running the show...when he was given the American Medal of Freedom award from LBJ he wore a Barry Goldwater pin on his lapel....if anything Disney was the forerunner of the Tea Party movement...

but hey- easier to spout nonsense than research facts...


10 posted on 03/12/2014 8:35:07 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: C19fan

We (Grandparents, daughter & two grandsons) went in January and all had the bands. We loved them. Our daughter used her IPhone to work the FastPass system and we breezed through many long lines. Had to wait a few times when we wanted to save the FastPass for best times. We visited all the parks and enjoyed all the rides we desired. All the parks have many photographers and after they take photos they scan one of the bracelets and all the photos were waiting for us online when we got home. Disney was going to make visitors give bracelets back but too many wanted them as momento. They also opened our door at hotel (Animal Kingdom).


11 posted on 03/12/2014 8:38:55 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: C19fan
But the system is rigged to give a major advantage to people who stay at Disney owned resorts since they can make reservations for rides months in advance while the rest of us have to wait at kiosks hoping to get a spot before they are all filled up.

For the record, rumor is that offsite guests (with tickets) will be able to reserve FP+ spots ahead of time by the end of April, if not sooner. They're rolling the reservations out to annual pass holders (not staying on site) now.

Onsite guests are always going to get perks - and pay for it with resort costs that are too high to justify otherwise. As it is, they get the "extra magic hours" access (early entrance to parks or staying after normal closing time) and I wouldn't be surprised if they either get to book FP+ earlier than offsite guests (like 60 days vs. 30 days) or are given 1-2 additional reservations once the general public gets advance bookings.

If you follow the folks over at TouringPlans.com, they actually point out that their computer models shows some of the parks as being more efficient with FP+, even for the "in the know" guests, because you can optimize your schedule without having to run all over the park to get the old legacy FP. I think it's particularly true in Magic Kingdom and Animal Kingdom.

12 posted on 03/12/2014 8:42:42 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: Dr. Thorne

Have you ever been? Yeah. The Hall of Presidents where a Lincoln robot stands, walks forward and gives the Gettsyburg Address is pure occult.


13 posted on 03/12/2014 8:43:27 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: C19fan

Part of the fun of the old DisneyWorld was terrific things that weren’t on the “planned” list that one could discover while avoiding those long lines.


14 posted on 03/12/2014 8:46:38 AM PDT by grania
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To: kevkrom

We stayed at the Yacht Club - concierge level last time we went to Disney Orlando. It was the best hotel experience I’ve had in 65 yrs.
Expensive but awesome.


15 posted on 03/12/2014 8:47:07 AM PDT by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: TNoldman

Hey DUMBA$$, THIS was the guy who KILLED Disney:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Eisner
GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!
Walt was an all around Good Guy!


16 posted on 03/12/2014 8:47:18 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: nascarnation
I'm planning on heading down this December (week of Dec 7, BEFORE the holiday crowds, that is) and I'll be using a timeshare trade. At this point, I'm assuming that means off-site, but there's always the 1-in-a-jillion chance I'll get a DVC unit, especially given I'm planning on going during a really slow week.
17 posted on 03/12/2014 8:49:49 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: God luvs America

Disney went/started going downhill in the late 80’s / early 90’s when it went from family entertainment to the “Hollyweird Model”....

Right when Eisner took over...


18 posted on 03/12/2014 8:51:48 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Portcall24

My wife and kids and I went in early December, and we used the bands, and updated our FastPasses using our iPhones. It was AWESOME. I hate their politics, and some of their social stances, but we had a fabulous time.


19 posted on 03/12/2014 8:55:59 AM PDT by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: DManA

We got a 3 day pass. We used two and then went somewhere we didn’t have to stand in line. As for me, Small World turned me off of Disney forever. Yuck.


20 posted on 03/12/2014 8:59:50 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: kevkrom

“Onsite guests are always going to get perks - and pay for it with resort costs that are too high to justify otherwise.”

Well worth the cost to stay on property, IMHO.

I’ve been many times and enjoyed each visit.

Stayed on property each time.

Cost a little more than staying on I-Drive somewhere but consider the benefits:
1) At the beginning of the day, don’t have to fight massive traffic on the highway to get to the park
2) Don’t have to park out in the parking lot’s boondocks and wait in the heat for a shuttle to take you to the park.
3) You get early access to the park
4) You can stay in some very nice on property hotels (Wilderness Lodge, The Boardwalk, The Grand Floridian, The Contemporary), and if you want a lower cost option (nosier and not as well made), you can stay in those hotels as well—and they cost as little as off property hotels
5) When younger, had smaller children and could easily take them back to the room via the in-park monorail for an air-conditioned break and nap and return when refreshed
6) Today, old guys like me can easily stop in the middle of the day and return to the room via the in-park monorail and take an air-conditioned break from the heat, crowds, noise, etc.
7) At the end of the day, burned-out and tired, don’t have to wait for a crammed shuttle to cart you off to the parking lot where your car has been baking all day—just catch the air-conditioned monorail and be dropped off at your hotel lobby
9) Don’t have to fight massive traffic leaving the parking lot
10) Don’t have to fight traffic on the highway to the hotel
11) Can watch the fireworks from the balcony of my room, while relaxing in my robe and having a drink

Staying off-property does not allow for any of those perks, and given the heat and humidity and crowds and such, a mid-day break does wonders for the Disney experience.

So, I consider the perks worth the cost.


21 posted on 03/12/2014 9:21:01 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Portcall24
Thanks for the positive news, Portcall24.

We're going to WDW this May - 25th Anniversary - we honeymooned there -been looking forward to this for about 10 years.

I refuse to let all the FR negativity here mess up my head for the trip.

22 posted on 03/12/2014 9:23:00 AM PDT by eCSMaster ("It is not the color of his skin, ... it is the blackness that fills his soul")
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To: C19fan

The Disney organization’s support of depravity means I’ll never spend another cent on one of their movies, etc.


23 posted on 03/12/2014 9:28:09 AM PDT by afsnco
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To: Hulka

I’ve done both, but after pricing it out this year, I can’t afford on-site (especially when a timeshare trade will cost less than $200, and I’ve got the time to trade). The objections to off-site are overblown, especially in an off-peak time:

1) Never had any problems with traffic getting in, especially if I’m arriving early for rope-drop (which I do).

2) Getting my tickets from AAA, which gives me access to their reserved, up-front parking lots.

3) EMH is the big loss, but you get around it by avoiding that particular park that day.

4) As much as I would drove to stay on site, for a family of 5 the options start at expensive and rapidly move to ridiculous. On the other hand, I will be staying in a 2BR condo with plenty of living space, a full kitchen, and laundry.

5, 6) I prefer scheduling a sit-down lunch to rest/recover, this avoids the there-and-back trips to the hotels and back through the gates. If we do get an on-site trade, I may consider park hoppers to do one park in the AM, an early afternoon break, and a second park (using the FP+) in the late afternoon/early evening.

7) See #2, and with kids aged 9, 7, and 7, with the latter two being autistic and on fairly rigid schedules, we won’t be staying until closing on any day.

8) There is NO point 8. /MontyPython

9, 10) See #7

11) If you have a park view, which is even more expensive than a regular room.

I mean, if money was no object, I’d be staying in a deluxe resort, or better yet, one of the DVC units. But it is, and I know exactly what I am trading off to stay off-site. And I’m OK with that.


24 posted on 03/12/2014 9:36:59 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: Hulka

i’m with you....the fact i have an 11YO daughter makes it doubly nice...

we do a cruise then stay at WDW for a few days- expensive but worth every $$ as far as I’m concerned...


25 posted on 03/12/2014 9:40:27 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: NewHampshireDuo

anyone going to Orlando might want to set aside 5-6 hours to tour the space center before it’s sold for firewood.


26 posted on 03/12/2014 9:41:04 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: US Navy Vet

never mind the fact Walt was a staunch conservative...(read post #10)


27 posted on 03/12/2014 9:42:30 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: C19fan

Disney IS the evil empire


28 posted on 03/12/2014 10:13:40 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: US Navy Vet

“Hey DUMBA$$, THIS was the guy who KILLED Disney:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Eisner
GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!
Walt was an all around Good Guy!”

Hi there FELLOW FREEPER - Thank you for your service to America.
You might not know that after Walt Disney finished DisneyLand in California he had a very different idea for a development in Florida. Something he called EPCOT. EPCOT stood for - “Experimental Prototype Community Of Tomorrow”. The Sustainable Community concept we now know of as UN “Agenda 21”.

DisneyWorld and Epcot of today are nothing like the original Disney plan. Walt died before HIS plan could be implemented. Please look at the web site below and come back with your thoughts.

http://www.businessinsider.com/walt-disneys-original-plan-for-epcot-2012-6?op=1


29 posted on 03/12/2014 12:02:39 PM PDT by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA.)
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To: God luvs America

You might not know that after Walt Disney finished DisneyLand in California he had a very different idea for a development in Florida. Something he called EPCOT. EPCOT stood for - “Experimental Prototype Community Of Tomorrow”. The Sustainable Community concept we now know of as UN “Agenda 21”.

DisneyWorld and Epcot of today are nothing like the original Disney plan. Walt died before HIS plan could be implemented. Please look at the web site below and come back with your thoughts.

http://www.businessinsider.com/walt-disneys-original-plan-for-epcot-2012-6?op=1


30 posted on 03/12/2014 3:08:04 PM PDT by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA.)
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