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How cold is this winter? Records over 100 years old broken in the Upper Peninsula
Mlive.com ^ | March 14, 2014 | Mark Torregrossa

Posted on 03/14/2014 1:00:15 PM PDT by cripplecreek

You know it has been a cold winter when some Upper Peninsula cities are breaking records that are over 100 years old.


We can talk about the average temperature for the winter months of December, January, and February. That is one way to tell how cold the winter has been. For example, Marquette had an average temperature of 7.5 degrees this winter, which is a new record for Marquette. That does indeed sound cold.


But a better way to get a feel for the record cold is to count the number of days below zero. We don't really have a feel for how cold an average temperature is, but we all know below zero temperatures are cold.


Iron River has dipped below zero 74 days this winter. 72 percent of the days this winter have dropped below zero in Iron River. Records go back 114 years there, and Iron River has never had that many days below zero in all the years of record.


Ironwood has been below zero 69 days, which is the most in 113 years of record keeping.


Houghton just tied its record of 47 days below zero, dating back to 1916-1917.


Manistique has eclipsed its old record of 45 days below zero by 11 days. That record may be tough to ever beat again. It goes in the same category as Joe DiMaggio's 56 game hitting streak.


There could be two more nights below zero across the Upper Peninsula; This Saturday night and Sunday night.

Then it looks like the below zero weather will be done for the winter. It's about time.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Local News; Weather
KEYWORDS: algore; globalcooling; globalwarming; iceage
Halp us Al Gore. Were stuk here in the acrtik with no globull warming to sav us.
1 posted on 03/14/2014 1:00:15 PM PDT by cripplecreek
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Mud season is a little late this year.

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2 posted on 03/14/2014 1:01:54 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

I stopped by a dog kennel we use couple times per year. They use propane for heating, it’s got a couple fairly big buildings.

Guy was telling me the heating bills have killed his profit.


3 posted on 03/14/2014 1:05:07 PM PDT by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: cripplecreek

Global Warming is red
Planet Earth is blue
Please pardon the carbon footprint
Of my New Michigan igloo


4 posted on 03/14/2014 1:08:02 PM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: nascarnation

I could tell that my house was torqued out of square a bit most of this winter due to the ground being so frozen. I had a couple of doors that didn’t fit well over most of the winter. Now that things have warmed up a bit they close easy again.


5 posted on 03/14/2014 1:10:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Here is an interesting map that is hard to find since the warmists have taken over: http://www.hprcc.unl.edu/maps/current/index.php?action=update_product&product=H65Dept

Heating degree days - departure from normal. (Don’t know what the “normal” is. It may be a thirty year average.


6 posted on 03/14/2014 1:11:27 PM PDT by Western Phil
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To: cripplecreek
Global warming is the biggest lie ever told in order to enslave us

democrats create a fake crisis like global warming to grow government/socialism, for their religion of collectivism

democrats are pure evil collectivist/socialist cretins , all of them

There’s been no warming, no sea level rise in 200 years of factories putting out C02 into the air.

This Winter was coldest in memory

Ice is growing in the poles, most ice ever in Antarctica, great lakes more ice than in decades or ever, , snow in Egypt this year, no hurricanes( so there’s no climate change either) etc . ice in New orleans, pensacola florida, Atlanta etc.

but almost ALL democrat politicians and voters still believe in global warming

Obama is a socialist corrupt criminal

7 posted on 03/14/2014 1:12:46 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: cripplecreek

I don’t listen to Joe Bastardi in super detail but I think he’s alluded to strong odds of a series of upcoming frigid years like the late 70s.


8 posted on 03/14/2014 1:12:50 PM PDT by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: cripplecreek

Charlevoix has been bitterly cold this year, believe me.


9 posted on 03/14/2014 1:14:18 PM PDT by gigster (Cogito, Ergo, Ronaldus Magnus Conservatus)
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To: nascarnation

I tend to agree with Bastardi on the cyclical nature of weather. Obviously there are natural long term climatic changes but within those are the 100, 50, 20 year cycles.


10 posted on 03/14/2014 1:33:07 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Part of my pessimistic long term view was to retire to a small well built home with nat gas. (Used to have a big drafty place with propane).

Highest bill this season was $140 incl water heater, stove, and dryer.


11 posted on 03/14/2014 1:37:54 PM PDT by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: cripplecreek
Houghton just tied its record of 47 days below zero, dating back to 1916-1917.

So who was driving all the SUVs in Houghton back in 1916-1917 to cause that previous string of 47 days below zero?
12 posted on 03/14/2014 1:39:00 PM PDT by Dahoser (Separation of church and state? No, we need separation of media and state.)
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To: cripplecreek
And the only heat for the whole house 100 years ago was a coal stove that someone (probably my grandmother) had to fire up in the morning. We are wimps!

While growing up, I remember my grandparents had a strange habit — they'd open their bedroom window a couple of inches in the dead of winter! Of course, they had an electric blanket. But, damn if the bedroom wasn't freezing cold. Lol. And I imagine trips to the bathroom were fun.

I figured out later that that habit was probably from living in house where the only heat was the kitchen stove. Probably a huge blanket and a stone at the bottom of the bed for heat.

13 posted on 03/14/2014 1:53:59 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345

One of my great grandmother’s stories was about the family getting caught in a blizzard on a horse drawn wagon in 1905 or so near Traverse City Mi.

She said her father broke a path out 100 yards or so through waist deep snow in front of one horse then back in front of the other. Then lead the horses up that 100 yards and do it all over again. She said it took all night to go the few miles to home but it was the only choice he had.


14 posted on 03/14/2014 2:03:33 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: gigster
Charlevoix has been bitterly cold this year, believe me.

I have a distant cousin that resides in Boyne Falls who I just connected with after many years. He sent me some pictures of his house and all I can say is that he is lucky he has a plow on his truck as well as a bobcat

15 posted on 03/14/2014 2:04:50 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Was Occam's razor made by Gillette?)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I think we topped 100 inches of total snow this winter here in extreme southern Michigan this year. That’s not much for some parts of the state but its a lot for the Jackson area.


16 posted on 03/14/2014 2:10:00 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

An Oregon news website mentioned that the NorthWest had the coldest winter in 70 years. They didn’t mention whether Al Gore was available for comment.


17 posted on 03/14/2014 2:27:49 PM PDT by aimhigh ( Self defense - a human right.)
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To: cripplecreek

So it was once this cold BEFORE globull warming.


18 posted on 03/14/2014 2:51:07 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: cripplecreek

So....what caused the “polar vortex” in 1912?


19 posted on 03/14/2014 2:54:15 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

It was nice to have our windows open this winter for a change (SFL).


20 posted on 03/14/2014 3:04:13 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (The zombies here elected alcee hastings. TERM LIMITS ... TERM LIMITES)
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To: cripplecreek

Wow. As they say, “hearty folk.”


21 posted on 03/14/2014 3:36:46 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: cripplecreek

Is it any wonder


22 posted on 03/14/2014 4:49:27 PM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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23 posted on 03/14/2014 7:33:13 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The PASSING LANE is for PASSING, not DAWDLING)
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To: Democrat_media
There’s been no warming, no sea level rise in 200 years of factories putting out C02 into the air.

There's been both. The question is how much is natural.

24 posted on 03/14/2014 7:37:21 PM PDT by palmer (There's someone in my lead but it's not me)
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To: nascarnation

pfff, 100 years? how old is the Earth? I’m sure there have been over a million colder years in the 4 billion year history of Earth.


25 posted on 03/14/2014 8:30:36 PM PDT by jyro (French-like Democrats wave the white flag of surrender while we are winning)
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To: cripplecreek
Around Flint there was a billboard with an advertisement for winter tires. The slogan was “Come on Winter!” Last time I was there they had pasted a banner across the sign “Enough Old Man, Enough!”
26 posted on 03/14/2014 8:35:56 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: palmer

there’s been no sea level rise, no warming: hence global warming is a hoax . so you say there is global warming . you are lying to advance socialism and enslave us. stop parroting the collectivist/socialist lies on a conservative site


27 posted on 03/14/2014 9:44:25 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: cripplecreek

Southern WI had two years in a row of 100” of snow. It sucked. And it fell during Christmas, so that was tough on my Christmas Tree sales. This past year was WONDERFUL as the temps didn’t start dipping to dangerous until after Christmas, and we didn’t have too much snow all at once this year.

‘This Old Dump’ fared very well considering she’s 108 years old this year. Heating was less of an expense than I thought it would be and other than a frozen sink in the main bathroom, I had no problems. Lucky!


28 posted on 03/15/2014 4:35:15 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Democrat_media

No sea level rise? No warming? No credibility. The question is how much of those rises are natural.


29 posted on 03/15/2014 5:56:56 PM PDT by palmer (There's someone in my lead but it's not me)
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To: palmer
Global warming is a hoax. what about that don't you understand , socialist? you believe the news media that say that global warming is real . you are a threat to freedom

global warming is a hoax. and you think it is real.

there is no sea level rise:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/5067351/Rise-of-sea-levels-is-the-greatest-lie-ever-told.html

But if there is one scientist who knows more about sea levels than anyone else in the world it is the Swedish geologist and physicist Nils-Axel Mörner, formerly chairman of the INQUA International Commission on Sea Level Change. And the uncompromising verdict of Dr Mörner, who for 35 years has been using every known scientific method to study sea levels all over the globe, is that all this talk about the sea rising is nothing but a colossal scare story.

30 posted on 03/16/2014 7:14:41 AM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: palmer

Global warming is a hoax. what about that don’t you understand , socialist? you believe the news media that say that global warming is real . you are a threat to freedom

global warming is a hoax. and you think it is real.
And this is from 2009. the antarctic ice is much greater now than then so sea levels would have lowered if anything since then.Antarctic ice is at the greatest level ever measured.

there is no sea level rise:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/5067351/Rise-of-sea-levels-is-the-greatest-lie-ever-told.html

But if there is one scientist who knows more about sea levels than anyone else in the world it is the Swedish geologist and physicist Nils-Axel Mörner, formerly chairman of the INQUA International Commission on Sea Level Change. And the uncompromising verdict of Dr Mörner, who for 35 years has been using every known scientific method to study sea levels all over the globe, is that all this talk about the sea rising is nothing but a colossal scare story.


31 posted on 03/16/2014 7:17:19 AM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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