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Vanished Without a Trace: 5 Other Flights That Disappeared
Weather.com ^ | Mar 13, 2014 | Sean Breslin

Posted on 03/14/2014 2:05:18 PM PDT by nickcarraway

The story of missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 is one of the most bizarre we've seen in the air travel industry in the 21st century. With all the tracking devices on our phones, in our cars and aboard our airplanes, how is a large jet and hundreds of passengers able to vanish off the map?

It's not unprecedented, even in the last decade. Here are five other aircraft disappearances that puzzled the world, leaving no sign of its whereabouts for days, months or even years.

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1 posted on 03/14/2014 2:05:18 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
There HAD to be a least one passenger with a satellite phone on that aircraft? Were they all confiscated or JAMMED? This sounds like software and electronic hacking/disabling was a major part of this hijacking.

Is that one Iranian dude holding a laptop in that airport photograph?

2 posted on 03/14/2014 2:11:37 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: nickcarraway
The plane, the plane...


3 posted on 03/14/2014 2:13:47 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

EMP?


4 posted on 03/14/2014 2:14:16 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Insurgent Conservative)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Why would there HAVE to be one. I don’t know anybody with a sat phone, they’re really expensive and only useful if you regularly find your very far into nowhere.


5 posted on 03/14/2014 2:15:17 PM PDT by discostu (Call it collect, call it direct, call it TODAY!)
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To: nickcarraway

Hit by an errant meteorite and vaporized no doubt.


6 posted on 03/14/2014 2:17:25 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: nickcarraway

The Air France flight in 2009 is the only relevant one of the five and it was found five days later.


7 posted on 03/14/2014 2:19:35 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and is not afraid of the unlawful.)
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To: nickcarraway
OK. I fess up. It was me. I was test firing my latest doodad, and I hit the airplane by accident. My bad.
8 posted on 03/14/2014 2:20:58 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

EMP would have taken everything out. Engines and hydraulics as well. It would have dropped where it was.


9 posted on 03/14/2014 2:22:32 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: kaehurowing

There would have been something left. Even if it was just a smudge.


10 posted on 03/14/2014 2:23:33 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: nickcarraway

They left out Oceanic 815.


11 posted on 03/14/2014 2:23:46 PM PDT by RossA
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To: nickcarraway

While passengers were sleeping cabin was slowly depressurized at high altitude, passengers are incapacitated or ultimately die from lack of 02. Thus why nobody tries to call out, all on board plane phones switched off, cell jammers may have been brought aboard.

ROP can get simplistically devious with simple common materials.


12 posted on 03/14/2014 2:27:31 PM PDT by Spartan302
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Why would anyone on that flight have an Iridium phone? The only people I know with those are yachtsmen, and I travel internationally a couple times a month.


13 posted on 03/14/2014 2:28:25 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: Spartan302

Geez, people, you don’t need to jam the cellphones—they don’t work onboard!


14 posted on 03/14/2014 2:29:17 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: dinodino
That's why I mentioned Satellite phone!

The hijacking begins with BOTH transponders being turned off, 14 minutes apart. I'm speculating on the state of all the passengers and their inability to communicate by whatever means possible. Or were they not aware of anything unusual during the flight?

15 posted on 03/14/2014 2:32:37 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: dinodino

If I was to steal a jumbo jet I would not be so complacent upon believing that philosophy. Cover any possibility the Evil Satan USA has some form of satellite or Predator drone nearby that can intercept even a simple cell phone call.

From a plane at 40,000 feet even.


16 posted on 03/14/2014 2:37:09 PM PDT by Spartan302
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
And I believe there were at least TWO UKRAINIANS aboard. WTF is up with that? Follow that lead! If designed to keep Crimea/Putin out of the news, CNN talked about the 'missing aircraft' almost 100% of their airtime yesterday! I smell a RAT.

Am I thinking too hard? LOL

17 posted on 03/14/2014 2:37:20 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

How long can a passenger stay conscious at 40,000 feet altitude without pressurized oxygen?


18 posted on 03/14/2014 2:38:55 PM PDT by Spartan302
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
Nationalities of people aboard Flight 370
Nationality Pass. Crew Total
 Australia 6 6
 Canada 2 2
 China 152 152
 France 4 4
 Hong Kong[121] 1 1
 India 5 5
 Indonesia 7 7
 Iran[b] 2 2
 Malaysia 38 12 50
 Netherlands 1 1
 New Zealand 2 2
 Russia 1 1
 Taiwan 1 1
 Ukraine 2 2
 United States 3 3
Total (15 nationalities) 227 12 239

19 posted on 03/14/2014 2:40:32 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

i still say someone wanted those military power chip makers.


20 posted on 03/14/2014 2:41:16 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Come to think of it, Putin has been making barry look pretty bad lately. He needed a diversion.

Here, look at this big shiny plane that is missing, look over here.


21 posted on 03/14/2014 2:41:51 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (The zombies here elected alcee hastings. TERM LIMITS ... TERM LIMITES)
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To: Spartan302

If slow depressurization, I’m gonna guess from the time of falling asleep first to loss of consciousness then death is about 5 minutes or less.


22 posted on 03/14/2014 2:42:31 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

And to be sure maybe another chemical introduced into the cabins ventilation, pilots and anyone else uses portable oxygen.


23 posted on 03/14/2014 2:44:40 PM PDT by Spartan302
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To: nickcarraway
Orbital scalar weapons.

Dustified in flight in a flash of energy.

Little if anything survives physically - no ocean debris.

And it was witnessed:

Oil Rig Worker Says He Saw Flight 370 Crash in Flames

My theory is that it was hijacked and already carrying a nuke, headed for the closest biggest city - Singapore - which was less than 45 minutes away flight time. If any missile assets were available, they could trigger the nuke through a deadman's switch or through shockwave, or just vaporize the plutonium and make a de facto dirty bomb. Plus it would take time, and there was no time. So missile options were bad.

Therefore, Zap.

And now, since such weapons can't be admitted, the vanishing plane concept is being normalized. And that's all there will ever be - a mystery.

24 posted on 03/14/2014 2:44:44 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
20 electronic warfare superconductor personnel for: China

2 Iranians: terrorism

2 pro-Russia Ukranians + 1 Russian: media diversion away from full scale invasion

2 U.S.: media diversion away from Obama

25 posted on 03/14/2014 2:45:07 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Spartan302

“While passengers were sleeping cabin was slowly depressurized at high altitude, passengers are incapacitated or ultimately die from lack of 02. Thus why nobody tries to call out, all on board plane phones switched off, cell jammers may have been brought aboard.”

No.

Oxygen masks would have deployed automatically when the cabin reached 14,000 feet.


26 posted on 03/14/2014 3:05:52 PM PDT by CFIIIMEIATP737
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To: CFIIIMEIATP737

What if the went “un-automatic”?

sabotaged by ground or flight crew.


27 posted on 03/14/2014 3:10:04 PM PDT by Spartan302
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To: Spartan302

“And to be sure maybe another chemical introduced into the cabins ventilation, pilots and anyone else uses portable oxygen.”

No.

In a pressurized aircraft, the source of pressurization is bleed air from the engines. This air is cooled and pumped into the cabin to create the pressure. Outflow valves in the back of the aircraft open and close to maintain the desired level of pressurization. So any substance introduced into the cabin ventilation is going to go out the back of the aircraft within a short time after being introduced.


28 posted on 03/14/2014 3:10:12 PM PDT by CFIIIMEIATP737
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To: nickcarraway

It’s the Langoliers.


29 posted on 03/14/2014 3:11:45 PM PDT by Argus
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To: CFIIIMEIATP737

I meant what if the masks were sabotaged ahead of time.

the goal is to render ALL passengers incapacitated.

Or dead.


30 posted on 03/14/2014 3:11:55 PM PDT by Spartan302
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To: Spartan302

It cannot be disabled in flight by the flight crew. I would need to review a B777 maintenance manual to see if disabling it on the ground would result in an EICAS warning to the crew.


31 posted on 03/14/2014 3:13:13 PM PDT by CFIIIMEIATP737
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To: CFIIIMEIATP737

I am familiar with the pressurization components of aircraft, I have flown one many years ago.


32 posted on 03/14/2014 3:13:50 PM PDT by Spartan302
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To: Talisker

You sound like you live in New Mexico.

With Sandia and Los Alamos Labs here, we get whispers of all sorts of good stuff.

As one of the lab rats told me, “Think of where you think we are...add 100 years...and you still might not be close.”


33 posted on 03/14/2014 3:46:19 PM PDT by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: Talisker
There has been more speculation about this event than even who killed Kennedy.

Your theory is as good as any.

34 posted on 03/14/2014 3:52:19 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001 and 9/11/2012: NEVER FORGET.)
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To: Churchillspirit

This bird is coming to back on the attack!
Thanks to the same satanic MF’ers who staged 9/11.
Pray that there is a God!


35 posted on 03/14/2014 4:02:00 PM PDT by free from tyranny
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To: Crusher138

I used to live in NM. Still dream of it sometimes.


36 posted on 03/14/2014 4:36:52 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Vermont Lt

-It would have dropped where it was.-

Incorrect. It can glide for a great distance.


37 posted on 03/14/2014 4:40:22 PM PDT by Jotmo (Whoever said, "The pen is mightier than the sword." has clearly never been stabbed to death.)
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It would fall out of the sky like a rock. None of the moveable surfaces would move.

Nose drive.

Just like flight 93.

It would hardly make a splash.


38 posted on 03/14/2014 4:43:37 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: Churchillspirit
There has been more speculation about this event than even who killed Kennedy.

It's literally a locked room mystery. Agatha Christie would start with a dead body in a locked room. There was nothing more tantalizing that being told there was no way for it to happen, while being also told that it did, indeed, happen.

Same with this vanishing plane. It's exactly the type of plane, of all the types of planes, that vannot vanish without a trace. Yet it did.

My other theory is not neraly so FReeper friendly. But if I were an ET civilization, and wanted to get the attention of the world in a non-threatening, but overwhemingly powerful, way, I just might beam up an entire 777 in flight and then at a later date, return it intact and with all passengers safe.

It would rivet the world, and make my point, all at the same time.

Don't tell any other Freeper I said this though - ETs are not popular around here. But if you want to know where I got the idea, watch "The Day the Earth Stood Still."

39 posted on 03/14/2014 4:44:32 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Vermont Lt
It would fall out of the sky like a rock. None of the moveable surfaces would move.

Nose drive.

Just like flight 93.

It would hardly make a splash.

Into 200 feet of water, which is shallower than the plane is long.

But of course, the speed of the impact would vaporize everything, all the steel and titanium, all of it, and there would be absolutely nothing whatsever left, not even a piece of wire or fabric, all gone - just like Flight 93.

40 posted on 03/14/2014 4:48:17 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Spartan302

It’s not a philosophy, it’s a fact and simple physics.

Cellphones would have been useless on this flight, and as for Iridium, while I’ve used one before, it wasn’t from inside the cabin of a 777. Might work just fine, but those phones are specialized and fairly rare. Coming from cosmopolitan KL and headed to massive Beijing, it’s unlikely anyone on board would have had one. This flight was not going from BFE to Timbuktu, remember.


41 posted on 03/14/2014 4:51:05 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: Talisker

OK That is just between us!


42 posted on 03/14/2014 5:50:25 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001 and 9/11/2012: NEVER FORGET.)
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To: nickcarraway

Bookmark.


43 posted on 03/15/2014 10:04:40 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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