Skip to comments.The cult of Christian apostasy
Posted on 03/14/2014 5:18:11 PM PDT by fabian
The Christian religion has been hijacked by the devil; creating a cult of Christian apostasy. Most leaders of the church have themselves been deceived by the master manipulator himself....satan.
Here you go...what do you think?
That was happening in the days of the apostles. Read what Paul said in Acts 20:29-30.
Yes..the devil has to try and destroy what God did so masterfully.
” 29 For I know this, that after my departing shall agrievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.”
bump for me...
listen and learn...if you dare.
Take a listen...it is only about 3 minutes
Satan hates the word so will do everything he can to keep people from it.
Including putting experience above the need for the word and making false accusations of *intellectualizing* the Bible.
God tells us to have the MIND of Christ and to renew our minds. He doesn’t dismiss Scripture as being unimportant like the devil would like you to do.
I think I don’t bother to go over to you tube to give them traffic. Why not just give us a summary??
If one believes in a Pantheistic world of many “Gods”, then it is the next logical step to call any god of any religion only “one more”.
It is an act of delegitimization of Monotheism and Judaism or Christianity in the particular.
Well, the summary really is right in the title there, up top. Thanks.
Not really.... Christian apostasy was spoken of within the NT. So all in all there is nothing new under the sun.
Title is sufficiently vague as to have no meaning
“God tells us to have the MIND of Christ and to renew our minds. “
That is correct, and it is done through real prayer, not learning and memorizing scriptures. The root for prayer is “ to examine oneself” I learned that from a Jew, Dennis Prager...and the bible says to pray unceasingly....surely that is not always speaking to God...we would not be able to work or do our daily duties. It is really silent prayer...Be Still..and know that I am God....exactly what the fhu.com had rediscovered. Sad that you apostate followers just are so blind to this all...it is such freedom to really live by the spirit and not by the rote word, even if they agree...it is the spirit that gives real life.
title is very specific..I could name names too. Too bad you won’t go to YouTube for some odd reason. There is a lot of good promoted their, as well as bad..same as the internet as a whole.
I don’t like giving you tube traffic. I made that very clear
I’ve always wondered about the belief that Christ is God. How do you pray to your father as yourself. Many referenced to the father being of a higher status than Christ himself.
Just a question for which I haven’t a clear answer.
Real prayers in Scripture......
Luke 11:1-4 Now Jesus was praying in a certain place, and when he finished, one of his disciples said to him, Lord, teach us to pray, as John taught his disciples. And he said to them, When you pray, say: Father, hallowed be your name. Your kingdom come. Give us each day our daily bread, and forgive us our sins, for we ourselves forgive everyone who is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation.
John 11:41-42 So they took away the stone. And Jesus lifted up his eyes and said, Father, I thank you that you have heard me. I knew that you always hear me, but I said this on account of the people standing around, that they may believe that you sent me.
Ephesians 1:15-21 For this reason, because I have heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love toward all the saints, I do not cease to give thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers, that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you the Spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of him, having the eyes of your hearts enlightened, that you may know what is the hope to which he has called you, what are the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, and what is the immeasurable greatness of his power toward us who believe, according to the working of his great might that he worked in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly places, far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and above every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come.
Ephesians 13:14-19 For this reason I bow my knees before the Father, from whom every family in heaven and on earth is named, that according to the riches of his glory he may grant you to be strengthened with power through his Spirit in your inner being, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faiththat you, being rooted and grounded in love, may have strength to comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth, and to know the love of Christ that surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled with all the fullness of God.
Colossians 1:9-14 And so, from the day we heard, we have not ceased to pray for you, asking that you may be filled with the knowledge of his will in all spiritual wisdom and understanding, so as to walk in a manner worthy of the Lord, fully pleasing to him, bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God. May you be strengthened with all power, according to his glorious might, for all endurance and patience with joy, giving thanks to the Father, who has qualified you to share in the inheritance of the saints in light. He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
Nobody ever said that learning and memorizing Scripture is prayer.
However it is advocated by God.
Psalm 1:1-3 Blessed is the man who walks not in the counsel of the wicked, nor stands in the way of sinners, nor sits in the seat of scoffers; but his delight is in the law of the Lord, and on his law he meditates day and night. He is like a tree planted by streams of water that yields its fruit in its season, and its leaf does not wither. In all that he does, he prospers.
Psalm 119:9-16 How can a young man keep his way pure? By guarding it according to your word. With my whole heart I seek you; let me not wander from your commandments! I have stored up your word in my heart, that I might not sin against you. Blessed are you, O Lord; teach me your statutes! With my lips I declare all the rules of your mouth. In the way of your testimonies I delight as much as in all riches. I will meditate on your precepts and fix my eyes on your ways. I will delight in your statutes; I will not forget your word.
Psalm 119:105 Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path.
Psalm 19:7-11 The law of the Lord is perfect, reviving the soul; the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple; the precepts of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart; the commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes; the fear of the Lord is clean, enduring forever; the rules of the Lord are true, and righteous altogether. More to be desired are they than gold, even much fine gold; sweeter also than honey and drippings of the honeycomb. Moreover, by them is your servant warned; in keeping them there is great reward.
“the rules of the Lord are true, and righteous altogether. More to be desired are they than gold, even much fine gold; sweeter also than honey and drippings of the honeycomb. Moreover, by them is your servant warned; in keeping them there is great reward. “
and now in the times of Jesus’s victory, those rules are given internally, by the comforter. You are living in old testament ways...not in the new ways..If you keep on using the scripture to excuse a lack of faith, you will never find real life.
Reuben Obermeister huh?
Roy Master..actually. Nice try...
Torah is Life. The blessed man meditates on it day and night. He does the mitzvot, not in order to rack up points, but because Torah Actualizes who he is. The connection between doing “good works” (mitzvot) and increasing in the knowledge of G-d is correct. Once you understand the context of the writings it’s easy to see the that the vision of these men was within the historical stream of the religion of Israel, and that religion is Torah.
So, Jesus was just a man? Scripture says it’s appointed unto man once to die and then the judgment. If Jesus was just a man, He could only die for his own sins. Yours is an old heresy rehashed.
Not a "try" at all. The truth. Oh, and he's going by Roy MASTERS now...
And then there's this... (in case you missed it.)
Or this too.
I didn’t say that..judger...he is the only Son of God and savior. . Get it right. thanks.
only idiots believe the cult followers of the apostasy..and their false reporting about Roy...who was once a hypnotist and no longer is. ..for a long time now. Daaaa!
Is Roy masters disciple back?
Jesus is God, and is the only one worthy of Worship, along with His Father and Holy Spirit.
Sorry, you’re wrong, my friend.
Another apostate follower..sadly
Last I checked, the Epistles to Timothy were in the New Testament...
16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. 2 Timothy 3:16-17
You of course are free to ignore the entire teaching of Scripture and follow the psycobabble of Reuben Obermeister instead of the inspired Word if you wish.
John 10:30 “30 The Father and I are one. and John 14:8-14 “ Philip said, Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.
9 Jesus answered: Dont you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, Show us the Father? 10 Dont you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves. 12 Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. 13 And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.”
as well as John 1:1 - 5 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome[a] it.”
These are words of comfort to me, and they completely contradict your premise. I’d suggest if you argue that you do it with God (and these verses).
As the legalistic cult members of the Christian apostasy tend to do, you misunderstand his meanings. Of course Jesus and his Father were one..in perfect purpose...he did His will, not his own...which perfectly makes the obvious point that he was not God. You are part of a cult and do not even know it.
Of coure he was not just a man..stop being ridiculous .
All you do it take one scripture..and all have had many translations...to try and justify your lack of faith in the holy spirit. it is not good enough for you, you must have the written word to. And Timothy said USEFUL, not needed nor mandatory. Just another member of the Christian cult of apostasy. Sad.
God is Triune...The Trinity, three parts and we are made in his image. God the Father, Jesus the son, and the Holy Spirit.
We are flesh=(body) soul=(mind, will, and emotions,) and spirit= eternal
Each has a different position. Therefore, God is the Creator (Origin), Jesus, son is the Savior, and the Holy Spirit is the Comforter.
Wrong sir, I use God’s own words to point to straight forward scriptures in which Jesus equated Himself with God.
You do not answer these scriptures but instead just call me an apostate without defending your accusations with ANY REAL proof whatsoever.
I’d say your claims are false. And John 14:10 is pretty clear “10 Dont you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.” How can Jesus be “in the Father” and the “Father in Him” if He weren’t God?? Answer is that He wouldn’t be able to as his very essence.
You don’t get it...His will was Jesus’s will...that does not mean that they are equal and there are plenty of OBVIOUS scriptures that show that he was always praying to his Father. It is OBVIOUS...unless you have become a memebr of the cult of Christian apostasy..sadly.
I've heard that same twisting of Scripture from Mormons, that Jesus and the Father were one in purpose.
But that's NOT what Jesus said.
He said *I and my father are one.* PERIOD.
And *If you have seen me, you have seen the Father. PERIOD.
More accusations and still no supporting Scripture to prove yourself correct.
Trusting the Holy Spirit cannot save you.
It's only Jesus whom we trust.
There is no other name under heaven by which we MUST be saved.
So He's just the 'son' of God, not God Himself. Is that right, my heretic friend?
You are the one that is a member of the cult of apostasy...ruining a great thing unwittingly!
Of course He was praying to His father, in submission to Him, and His will, but Jesus IS equal with His Father as is the Holy Spirit.
There is no apostasy from a clear reading of scripture.
he is clearly the savior as spoken of in the old testament..the Son of God...not God. There is only ONE God. Period.
He is perfectly in tune with the Father, as is the holy spirit. If he were equal to God, then he would not have asked the father to remove the cup of suffering, he was clearly submitting...as also the very word son, connotes..not equal. The is huge apostasy and it is also a cult, because what is obvious has been made wrong, with the willing submission of the cult members...sadly, most church goers. most are decent souls and they will find salvation, those that really want it, but that will be inspire of their brainwashed church leaders, not because of them!
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” John 1:1.
Glad to see that others have already pointed out that you are promoting the doctrines of demons, so I don’t have to.
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