Skip to comments.Post script? Parents, lawmakers fear cursive becoming lost art
Posted on 03/15/2014 10:41:36 AM PDT by Olog-hai
Kids can text on tiny keyboards, convey their thoughts in 140 characters or less and use numbers for prepositions, but some states fear they soon may not be able to sign their own names.
In this digital age of Internet acronyms, like LOL, and emoticons, Tennessee is the latest state pressing for legislation that mandates students learn cursive writing in school. Lawmakers in the state are pushing for passage of House Bill 1697, which would require all public school students to learn how to read and write in cursive, preferably by the third grade.
The bill, authored by state Republican Rep. Sheila Butt, is meant to prevent a decline in students ability to read handwritten notes and sign their own names as well as interpret historical documents in their original form, like the Declaration of Independence.
Cursive writing is timeless because it connects us to our past, Butt told FoxNews.com.
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Imagine the what our government will do when no one can translate the constitution
I had not considered this but the fostering the inability to read “historical documents in their original form” may have been a goal of the people who managed to quash the use of cursive in government schools.
Jeantel is deeply saddened
My homeschool kids are certainly learning how to write cursive. It never occurred to me that public school kids didn’t know how.
Can’t read cursive, but can hear grass!
It is stupid to make laws requiring cursive.
Being left-handed, teachers screwed me up and I never have been good at it, but now after decades of typing I really have to concentrate on it when I have to sign something.
Kids 100 years ago knew how to ride horses but we didn’t pass laws forcing them to keep doing so after cars came along.
The federal gummint requiring anything in schools is stupid.
Don’t see the correlation, with all due respect.
And this is Tennessee AFAICS rather than the federal government.
Rachel J. agrees.
When I was in 8th grade, I had a science teacher who used to write copious notes for us on several blackboards. He wrote in all caps — big and little caps.
I loved his class, and really admired him as a teacher. So naturally, I decided to emulate his writing (which I thought looked really cool) — so much that I decided to abandon cursive altogether. From then on, I have written (i.e printed) exclusively in big and little caps.
And you know what? I sign documents all the time. In the 50 years since I started writing this way, no one (including the effing IRS) has questioned the validity of my signature. Not ever.
I’m all for making sure our kids can read the Constitution, but there are enough printed versions of it available that if they never read it in cursive, it really wouldn’t be a big deal.
I haven’t written in cursive in 50 years.
Sadly it appears that many FReepers are about as bright as the rest of the general population.
Who cares about old timey writin? Pawn Stars is on.
A third grade teacher in public school told me that the time formerly used for learning cursive is now taken up by the preparation for state-mandated testing.
Getting rid of curisve writing is a regressive step back toward the days when only the nobility knew how to read.
As a genealogist I see lots of crazy script, and the fancy cursive is the hardest to read of all! While I make sure my homeschooled kids can read basic cursive, I trust cheat sheets for their future, much like the ones I use for Early American and English script.
And while Rep. Butt fights for this for nostalgia’s sake, others have argued cursive is faster than printing - an equally bad argument given that efficient printers are faster and easier to read.
Typing replaced it.
Agree with your #15, I learned cursive in second grade and wasn’t even aware that there are schools that don’t teach cursive.
I still sign my name. For everything else, there is printing...although my printing often connects letters, so perhaps what I use is a style of cursive closer to block letters. But I gave up the penmanship taught to me in school 40 years ago.
I’ve seem the same responses to suggestions the constitutional literacy should be a requirement to graduate from high school.
Why waste time on that dusty “400 year old” document?
But you know how to read it which is what is really important.
I mostly print too but thank God I can read cursive writing.
I only write in cursive. Trying to write otherwise my writing looks terrible.
My wife, a history major, has made that observation as well. There are many historical documents which require the ability to read in cursive in order to grasp their meaning. Letters from Revolutionary or Civil war soldiers to their families, or from elected representatives to constituents provide valuable insight into their lives and the events of the time.
As a teacher, my wife has also mentioned that learning cursive teaches hand-eye coordination and improves fine motor skills. It may not be as useful today with the presence of keyboard, but there are still advantages to learning it.
I have a white board with cursive alphabet on it, my Grandson does it until he gets it right when I baby sit.
I am a writer and have found that my writing is more creative when employing cursive. For logical reasoning and restructuring a document, using a computer is more efficient for me. However, if I want to put forth my most original, nuanced ideas I have to use cursive.
Here’s an article that points to research that indicates, when compared with typing, writing by hand triggers different parts of the brain:
Isn’t writing in cursive a lot faster than printing? That’s what I always think anyway.
Indeed, the old style of Japanese--known as Kobun--is not a popular subject in schools there, and it's not hard to figure out why: it would be like trying to teach Americans the equivalent of Old English. In fact, when the Hirohito (Emperor Showa) read the rescript that accepted the terms of the Potsdam Declaration for the surrender of Japan in that famous speech, the majority of Japanese had serious difficulties understanding it because it was essentially a speech in the same language as a Noh dramatic play, which uses Kobun as the spoken language.
By “Old English”, do you mean Anglo-Saxon or something like Chaucer’s Middle English? Those were two very different tongues in and of themselves.
Kobun is an odd one. Any idea why it’s heavier on kana than modern Japanese?
My 4th and 5th graders constantly complained when I wrote in cursive on the board because they couldn’t read it. Cursive is supposed to be taught in 3rd grade! Consequently, I spent a lot of time teaching cursive and they always ended up loving it. It gave them a sense of accomplishment and they were also very proud of themselves when they could write in cursive.
but you should always be able to read it.
I’ll bet you can. I can even though I write in caps.
The d*mned, dumbed down Teacher’s Unions who probably can’t read or wire cursive are h=behind it.
When the power goes out, only those that have a command of language will know how to continue.
Maybe this will lead to a possible thinning out of the herd, since they won’t be able to ‘internet search engine name’ anything, and when they are handed a piece of paper to read, go to the wrong location and ......
(you write the rest of that story for yourself!
We should make sure kids keep learning things that are archaic and has no value to them. Maybe we can also have all kids learn how to shoe a horse or re-thatch a roof.
Yes. The same reason the Progressives deemed Greek and Latin "dead languages". Saved us from reading the history of our civilization in the original [which was the purpose of learning them].
No. Much better we teach the little beggars how to order coffee in French or ask where the library is in Spanish. Utter waste of money and school time.
Nothing is “archaic” about cursive handwriting. Do you want all children to be like Rachel Jeantel?
theyve tried to decimate the language, and have succeeded to a great degree
They’ve tried to decimate the “the arts”, and have succeeded to a great degree.
come to think of it most of the communist goals from the 1950’s I think it was have been “reached”
Do you really think that is her greatest problem?
I never write in cursive and I am hard pressed to imagine a situation where my children ever will.
It’s certainly an indicator of her greatest problem.
I also find it remarkable that non-teaching of cursive is so prevalent. I learned it, and I graduated high school in the late 1980s.
We're the same age. I learned it too but I just don't see the point in doing so today. When was the last time you wrote or received a letter? I write on the computer all day long but I can't remember when I wrote even a half page with pen and paper.
I still remember being appalled in 1960 [at least to the extent that a second-grader can feel appalled] that the Soviets encouraged children to rat on their parents. I couldn't imagine such a thing.
But it's common here now. Parents use drugs? Parents own a gun? Parents leave you "unattended"? I understand that there's a great deal of child abuse in our society now, but that the innocent must be swept into the mess is inexcusable and unnecessary.
but that the innocent must be swept into the mess is inexcusable and unnecessary.
The innocent and niave,,,are far easier to indoctrinate having little in the way of powers of discrimination.
To most kid not having” to learn cursive means....less work, rather than something lost or more accurately never gained.
It was not until another poster here pointed it out that id thought about the fact that kids lacking the ability to read cursive. can not read the original Founding Documents...of the U.S.A
I’d bet that few of the he “progessive” “educators” in the “rank and file” understand the power of depriving children of the skill of reading and writing in cursive.
I believe you are correct in that assessment. They see it as sparing the child [and themselves] the pain of learning something which they see as unnecessary and outmoded.
But, of course, there are more reasons to learn cursive writing than being able to read old documents. It's faster to write and the discipline alone -- it's somewhat of an art -- is valuable.
Be honest, everyone. Have you actually put pen or pencil to paper today? I would wager that for the majority of us we rarely actually pick up a pen/cil and write, whether in print or in cursive. I “write” all day, but I rarely will use anything but a keyboard.
I Seldom take the opportunity to write in cursive these days. My signature however still bears the mark of a person who took some pride in learning to write in the cursive manner.
What will the signatures of todays children who don’t learn to write cursive Look Like?
Are we headed back to the day when scrawling the letter X as ones signature was sufficient?....
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