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Thinking about moving to Phoenix ... input / advice?
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Posted on 03/15/2014 7:23:40 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4

So I am thinking seriously about moving to Phoenix. I have lots of job opportunities out there but am at a loss of the topology as of current. I have a friend out there in Maricopa and he loves it. I will have to rent to start off so I am looking for decent rent for a 3 bdr. Looking for a quiet place or as quiet as I can get it. I currently commute an hour one way. So long as I can keep that, I am open to quite a bit of travel I believe. Also, and this may sound lame, but can I do home garden's out there? Is it simply too hot? What about water? (I'm looking at this from a SHTF perspective as I am accustomed to my area now and its abundance and ease.).

Any input would help...thanks!


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1 posted on 03/15/2014 7:23:40 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4
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To: Ghost of SVR4

Don’t fly Malasia Airlines ...


2 posted on 03/15/2014 7:25:17 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

From the SHTF perspective, probably not so good. Other than that, sounds great.


3 posted on 03/15/2014 7:25:49 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

It’s hot there


4 posted on 03/15/2014 7:25:50 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Lmo56

and bring an ice chest


5 posted on 03/15/2014 7:26:36 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: Ghost of SVR4

I live in CA, but spend a lot of time in PHX due to work, my company has pretty big operations there.

I like everything about PHX, except the heat.


6 posted on 03/15/2014 7:27:48 PM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: nuconvert

Sarah Palin daughter bought a house there. Parts of AZ are hot most of the year.


7 posted on 03/15/2014 7:27:55 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat

not a heat person


8 posted on 03/15/2014 7:29:14 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

The heat is hell on car tires and batteries.


9 posted on 03/15/2014 7:30:18 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

Maricopa, AZ or Maricopa County, AZ?


10 posted on 03/15/2014 7:31:16 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: nuconvert
It’s hot there

x 1,000,000

11 posted on 03/15/2014 7:32:03 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: nuconvert

We moved to Phoenix about 18 years ago from California and really enjoy it here...The georgous weather we have this time of the year offsets the heat that most people think of when they hear Phoenix, AZ. If you have air-conditioning and a pool and an indoor job, you will do fine (you might have to keep oven mitts in the car for the steering wheel - that’s a joke!)...Better yet, we are pretty conservative and love our Sheriff Joe Arpaio for standing up for AZ laws! We live in North Phoenix and can get to just about anywhere in the valley in around 30-45 minutes (except during heavy traffic). Paradise Valley is a great place to live and you can find a 3 bed/2bath for around 1,000/month to rent. There are also still some deals in purchasing if you have a good RE Agent...So, come on out to Arizona and take in Sedona and the Grand Canyon - you will fall in love at God’s handiwork and beauty...


12 posted on 03/15/2014 7:34:34 PM PDT by princess leah
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To: Lmo56

Don’t go!!!!! Head for Texas.


13 posted on 03/15/2014 7:34:56 PM PDT by SADMILLIE
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To: nuconvert

Me either, although freezing cold doesn’t do anything for me either. I am a four seasons person with mild winters and no extremes on either end...lol


14 posted on 03/15/2014 7:35:02 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat

Same here. I love changing seasons


15 posted on 03/15/2014 7:36:56 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

If you like Suaro cactus with little birds looking out and gravel yards painted green to look like grass and its 105 degrees the first week of June Phoenix is your Huckleberry. :=)


16 posted on 03/15/2014 7:36:57 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

I’ve been out there several times over the last six months. People are nice, traffic stinks.

I seriously doubt you can garden. Every is sand, rock, or has spikes. Incredibly dry. It surprised me at how dry it is. From a preparedness side there will be no water if they lose electric.

It’s a desert.


17 posted on 03/15/2014 7:38:13 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

Your thinking will go like this. I am the smartest person to move here its great. Other people are dumb. Year 2- its still great but God here comes that heat and boy traffic sucks. 3rd year- God get me out of here its HOT I can’t do another year of this.


18 posted on 03/15/2014 7:38:30 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: princess leah

Weatherwise, I could live in Flagstaff, except it’s too expensive


19 posted on 03/15/2014 7:39:09 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

A few years ago Phoenix was a mecca for kidnappings by drug cartel members for ransom...I do not know how it is now, but research is your best friend. Always make sure you have peace in your heart about the move. A preacher once told me to go somewhere on a visit before I moved there to see how I felt.

Check ‘city comparisons’ at bestplaces.com? for crime, economy, housing, and water etc.


20 posted on 03/15/2014 7:39:12 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Ghost of SVR4

You don’t say where you are coming from so it could be quite a lifestyle change. I am a native from the valley of the sun and live in the East Valley. The commute into downtown Phoenix is not fun via the freeways unless you carpool. Some people don’t mind the drive, I do and so I have always worked near home. Yes it gets very hot here. We do our outdoor activities in the winter and spring, hiking, off-roading etc. The valley is surrounded by mountains so you can pretty much go hiking when you want. This time of the year it gets very crowded with Snowbirds from the north. Lots of canadians all out on the roadways and in the stores. They leave as soon as the temp reaches 90 degrees so they should be leaving here in the next couple of weeks. You can escape the heat in the summer pretty easy, we have the mogollon rim 1 1/2 hours away or Flagstaff and temps are about 20 degrees cooler there. Plus everyone has pools. If you can afford higher cost of living then check out Scottsdale.


21 posted on 03/15/2014 7:40:27 PM PDT by UnRuley1
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To: Ghost of SVR4

City of Phoenix is California without the ocean. Left wing-nuts everywhere. Move to the County.


22 posted on 03/15/2014 7:40:35 PM PDT by anton
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To: Ghost of SVR4
You can have a lovely rock garden. Get yourself a rake and make designs in the sand like you find at a Buddhist temple.
23 posted on 03/15/2014 7:40:58 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

Maybe look into renting in the ‘county island’ in the Chandler/Gilbert area. Ask a realtor about the term/area.

I’m in it with 1 acre, 20 minutes from downtown where I work. You can farm. Lots of year round alfalfa farms. Corn. I have oranges, peaches, figs, grapes, grapefruit. I’m thinking of turning over some dirt here soon. Find a place with flood irrigation. Maybe consider rent-to-own.

What you are looking for is possible.


24 posted on 03/15/2014 7:41:48 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: Ghost of SVR4

There are a lot of nice areas to live in the Phoenix metro area but what will work for you is entirely dependent on your age, what you like to do, and if you are married, married with children, or single. I would look up a real estate agent and ask questions about lifestyle match to area neighborhoods. It is a good place to live but it isn’t terribly cheap and it does get hot. I grew up in Montana and I do not miss the cold.


25 posted on 03/15/2014 7:42:14 PM PDT by WMarshal (Free citizen, never a subject or a civilian)
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To: Ghost of SVR4
(I'm looking at this from a SHTF perspective as I am accustomed to my area now and its abundance and ease.).

If that's the case, you need to choose another place. In fact, you sound like you should stay put and make it work.

26 posted on 03/15/2014 7:44:11 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Ghost of SVR4

I lived in Phoenix in the early 70s, before they built the freeways. Getting across town was a bear — traffic was horrendous. And it seemed that they were always digging up the major streets — they would have lanes blocked while they put in, say, a water main, then cover it up, then put in electrical lines, then cover them up ... etc., etc. Summers were not pleasant — many days exceeded 105 degrees, and it was often still 100 degrees at 10 PM, sometimes later. Asphalt softened and high heels sank, and it seemed like you were constantly running between your refrigerated house and your air conditioned car. You could easily burn your hands on the steering wheel or gearshift - never mind touching the car to get in. Winters were fine, but crowded with “snowbirds” (adding to the traffic issues). If you wanted to drive to San Diego or Los Angeles, your best bet was to leave around 1 or 2 AM to get across the desert before it got hot. Then the monsoon season when the rains rolled through — high humidity with that heat — ecch. If I had to live there again, I would go up to the foothills, like Carefree or Cave Creek - still in the area, but not quite so hot as in town. Prescott, Sedona or even Tucson would be even better.


27 posted on 03/15/2014 7:46:16 PM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (It is no more than a dream remembered, a Civilization gone with the wind.)
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To: Ghost of SVR4
I'm seriously considering moving to southern AZ too. Though probably Tucson area not Phoenix. I won't be ready to pull the trigger on that one for a couple of years though.

I've only ever driven through Phoenix - in on 10 from the south, out 17 to the north. I may have a chance to visit a friend there next month for a couple of days.

I've spent time in the desert southwest. I like the heat. I'm one of those nuts whose idea of fun was to take off early and go hike up and down mountains and washes in 100+ heat.

28 posted on 03/15/2014 7:46:40 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: UnRuley1

I do garden a bit. You can build a raised bed garden and put really good soil in it and put up a shade screen to help with the scorching sun. I do most of my gardening in early spring or fall. Zucchini is a great crop here. We store water in case of shtf. If you do want to have extra food on hand then you need to factor that into the sq footage of your house as you will need to store all food indoors due to the heat.


29 posted on 03/15/2014 7:46:47 PM PDT by UnRuley1
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To: driftdiver; Ghost of SVR4

driftdiver

on with you on many posts, but that simply isn’t true. I’m in Chandler surrounded by year round citrus and alfalfa farms, not to mention horse ranches, cattle, goats, sheep.

when I first got here, i thought it would be desert and it is in certain places. but not where I am. and this is a big area with a lot of open land alternating with subdivisions.

i’ve got oranges, peaches, lemons, figs, grapes, grapefruit. i’ve got 1 acre that i’ll probably farm this year. the guy next to me has 10 acres of alfalfa. 3 horse properties on the other side.

flood irrigation has turned the desert into great farmland.


30 posted on 03/15/2014 7:46:47 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: Ghost of SVR4

My friends all tell me that Tuscan’s the best.

Don’t forget to write your Mom and Dad, when you have the time.

Let your brother and sister know how much you miss them.


31 posted on 03/15/2014 7:47:06 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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Wow..lots of responses to read through. I am in Western PA currently. I have a couple acres, stream across the road; easy gardening. My reasons for moving are purely social (i.e., getting away from undesirables who won’t leave me alone). I grew up in very southern CA. I was exposed to 108+ degree days most of my life. The problems I am facing now are very high costs to keep my home warm across long winters, (again) escaping a family of crazies, and possibly increasing my wealth. The down side is it sounds like I will have to be very choosy about location in order to grow anything and I have LOTS to read about the water and water table out there (here, 30 inches down is natural shallow springs).


32 posted on 03/15/2014 7:49:26 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: Svartalfiar

Tucson is not as nice as the metro Phoenix area. The are only a few places in Tucson that are nice mostly the resort areas. I always dislike going down to Tucson unless I can stay at a 4 star resort.


33 posted on 03/15/2014 7:51:18 PM PDT by UnRuley1
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To: Ghost of SVR4

Moved here about 15 months ago and probably will retire in a year. Give us an idea of your age, type of work you plan to do, and approximate house budget after you rent and that will give us an idea where to suggest you look first and what you should expect.

Keep in mind that the valley is huge — think 90 miles by 110 miles, or better.

You don’t want to spend all your time on freeways but the fringes are the best for most people past 35.


34 posted on 03/15/2014 7:52:01 PM PDT by KC Burke (Officially since Memorial Day they are the Gimmie-crat Party.ha)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

Unlicensed open and concealed carry is legal.

What else do you need to know?


35 posted on 03/15/2014 7:52:53 PM PDT by Bizhvywt
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To: Ghost of SVR4

One plus living in Phoenix is the close proximity to southern CA and the beaches etc. We go to San Diego every summer.


36 posted on 03/15/2014 7:55:04 PM PDT by UnRuley1
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To: Ghost of SVR4
I loved it there before it got so big and populated.

I miss my family and friends, but I don't miss Phoenix any more. I don't miss the pollen or the air so dry my nose would bleed. I used to love the heat, but am glad to be away from it. I like all four seasons, but I do miss the smell of the desert after a rain.

My brother and I have hiked up to the top of almost all the mountains around the valley. One day sitting on top of one of the mountains looking down at the valley, I got to thinking about what happens if things go bad and I got stuck in that bowl in the desert with millions of others and only a few ways in or out. It got to me and I never could shake that off.

Once upon a time, they used to say to go there for your health, now they tell you to get out, and not just for the seasonal pollen and blowing dust.

The valley of the sun is like a bowl and in the winter the air often gets trapped in that bowl by the stagnant cold air and the bowl fills with all the pollution and all the dirt and dust. Not good for breathing. Nor is valley fever.

I've had the best times of my life there, met some of the best people I've known there and used to just love being there before it got so popular and then so crowded. But now? I could see moving up north, maybe Prescott or Flagstaff or in between, but not Phoenix.

It is a very unique place and has almost everything you could want in a place to live. Go out and see for yourself. It may be exactly what you're looking for.

37 posted on 03/15/2014 7:58:49 PM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

Air conditioning costs are considerable. Our 1200 sq ft house highest summer bill is $200. We have a single level ranch though. Watch out for 2 story homes, summer utilities can be much higher.


38 posted on 03/15/2014 7:58:55 PM PDT by UnRuley1
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To: Ghost of SVR4

It depends what you like. Extemely expensive electricity for the AC. If you like heat you’re in the rigt spot. If you like desert you’re in the rigt spot.

Myself, I prefer mountains with trees snow and rivers. You will have to driveto Flagstaff for treed mountains. I don’t care for heat so I couldn’t live there again.

One thing that is great are the evenings. It seems everyone invites you to a backyard BBQ and the nigt life is great in PHX and Scottsdale.


39 posted on 03/15/2014 8:01:35 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Ghost of SVR4

It depends what you like. Extemely expensive electricity for the AC. If you like heat you’re in the rigt spot. If you like desert you’re in the rigt spot.

Myself, I prefer mountains with trees snow and rivers. You will have to driveto Flagstaff for treed mountains. I don’t care for heat so I couldn’t live there again.

One thing that is great are the evenings. It seems everyone invites you to a backyard BBQ and the nigt life is great in PHX and Scottsdale.


40 posted on 03/15/2014 8:02:11 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: driftdiver
From a preparedness side there will be no water if they lose electric..

True, in the summer if power is lost and doesn't come back you die from heat and thirst -- your choice.

OTOH, here where I am in eastern Washington State it can be 110F in the summer, but I can walk one mile to the cool and fairly clean Columbia River and will not die of heat or thirst anytime soon.

41 posted on 03/15/2014 8:02:24 PM PDT by steve86 (to the nearest on-shore cell tower or repeater).)
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To: Bizhvywt

“Unlicensed open and concealed carry is legal.”

I was waiting for a gun post, and that’s all i needed to know. Besides, I don’t get why people are bitching about the heat. I’m ex-canadian. God knows you never see the sun for 9 months from my former province growing up so seeing the sun in January is a plus for me.


42 posted on 03/15/2014 8:03:23 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Ghost of SVR4

Just like in DC, choose in the northwest quadrant. Or, plan to commute from someplace outside the city.


43 posted on 03/15/2014 8:04:31 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

The valley is sonoran desert. Lots of sun but nothing grows without irrigation other than desert plants.

If you buy horse property or some acreage in the fringes you can grow citrus and other items but be prepared for a lot of work and little profit unless you quit your day job. Gardening is okay for showy stuff, but other than a few citrus trees that is all you are likely to do. Roses do better than you would expect.

Find a job first and then rent in an area you like in that segment of town. Be prepared to not understand that all the little cookie cutter subdivisions all look the same but some may have a lot of problems while others don’t.

I have guys that work for me that love the east valley, or Cave Creek, or Chandler, Surprise, Peoria or Buckeye but they are all 35 miles apart.


44 posted on 03/15/2014 8:04:36 PM PDT by KC Burke (Officially since Memorial Day they are the Gimmie-crat Party.ha)
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To: Fast Moving Angel

Sounds like you’re talking about Indian School and 51st Ave. They nearly killed my business in ‘74.


45 posted on 03/15/2014 8:06:38 PM PDT by HiJinx (Borders, Language, Culture)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

I would not willingly choose to live in an oven, even for 4 mouths out if the year.


46 posted on 03/15/2014 8:08:30 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Ghost of SVR4
Ive lived in Maricopa and liked it..if you have live in LA So California area....maricopa.is kind of like Phoenix's Chino...but its all new development...but be advised you may have a drive if you work.in the Phoenix area....just to get to the 10 freeway from maricopa is a 16 mile drive through empty reservation land but you do see wild horses out there...
47 posted on 03/15/2014 8:15:19 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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To: AlmaKing; Ghost of SVR4
Find a place with flood irrigation. Maybe consider rent-to-own. What you are looking for is possible.

I would agree. Make sure of your water rights if you plan to irrigate or have a yard or garden. Especially if you have horses, for example. Further out in the desert the wildlife will be coming to partake of your pool, so make sure it's properly fenced or it will be party time at the watering hole every night. In the more urban areas the heat island is severe, not to mention the subtropical conditions in late summer and the pollen from the non-native plants in the landscaping. Plan to have an escape to the cool. As far as SHTF all of the western desert cities are completely unsustainable at the current population levels if there is any significant breakdown in technology.

48 posted on 03/15/2014 8:17:06 PM PDT by no-s (when democracy is displaced by tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote)
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To: steve86

I’ve lived in several different areas of this country and I always end up back in Eastern Washington. Winter temps are a bit brutal for my taste but the spring, summer, and fall are very enjoyable. I just wish some of the East side mentality would seep into the West side of the state.


49 posted on 03/15/2014 8:17:06 PM PDT by Render
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To: Ghost of SVR4

I lived in Tucson for 8 years and loved it, I would go back in a heartbeat. It is 10 degrees cooler that Phx on the real hot days and always less humid. It is a dry heat and yes there is a difference.

Yes you can garden, just build above with R?R ties and get soil etc to have raised beds. Careful of direct all day sun, but it is sunny most days even during monsoon season. Rain and humidity rolls in in the afternoons, pours like hell and then goes. You feel the heat when it gets humid.


50 posted on 03/15/2014 8:20:59 PM PDT by The Mayor (Honesty means never having to look over your shoulder.)
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