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Why Do 16th-Century Manuscripts Show Cats With Flaming Backpacks?
National Geographic ^ | 3-10-2014 | Brad Scriber

Posted on 03/16/2014 6:29:43 AM PDT by Renfield

A series of 16th-century manuscripts that have been making waves on the Internet look like a Monty Python version of the Renaissance: They show cats outfitted with flaming backpacks, attacking castles and villages.

But the illustrations are legit. They're intended to show how cats and birds could in theory be used to set fire to a besieged city, according to a University of Pennsylvania scholar.

Mitch Fraas, scholar in residence at the University of Pennsylvania—the university digitized the manuscripts last year—says that the drawings are from artillery manuals and are accompanied by notes explaining how to use animals as incendiary devices....

(Excerpt) Read more at news.nationalgeographic.com ...


TOPICS: History; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: germany; godsgravesglyphs; history; middleages; militaryhistory; renaissance; vikingkitties; weapons; workingdogs

A cat and bird wearing flaming packs attack a city under siege in this illustration from a 1584 artillery manual, or feuerwerkbuch, housed at the University of Pennsylvania.

1 posted on 03/16/2014 6:29:43 AM PDT by Renfield
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To: SunkenCiv
Ping.

This 17th-century engraving shows that the idea of using cats as arsonists had staying power and was widespread. PHOTOGRAPH BY MATT ROURKE

2 posted on 03/16/2014 6:31:15 AM PDT by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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To: Renfield

“... cats with flaming backpacks...”

The earliest Viking Kitties?!


3 posted on 03/16/2014 6:31:23 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: Renfield

“Here kitteh kitteh, I mean NOT here. Bad kitteh! Run away!”


4 posted on 03/16/2014 6:32:12 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Renfield

They look more like Jet packs to me.

Maybe the cats and birds were used for high speed courier service.


5 posted on 03/16/2014 6:33:01 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I just messed up my tagline. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Renfield
Sounds like WWII era bat bombs. http://www.airforcemag.com/MagazineArchive/Pages/1990/October%201990/1090bats.aspx
6 posted on 03/16/2014 6:39:02 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Renfield
Ancient concept:

Judges 15:4 (1611 King James Bible)

And Samson went and caught three hundred foxes, and tooke firebrands, and turned taile to taile, and put a firebrand in the midst betweene two tailes.

7 posted on 03/16/2014 6:41:42 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Slings and Arrows
Fire Cat Ping!


8 posted on 03/16/2014 6:46:20 AM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: Renfield
From wiki:War Pig:
Historical accounts of incendiary pigs or flaming pigs were recorded by the military writer Polyaenus[7] and by Aelian.[8] Both writers reported that Antigonus II Gonatas' siege of Megara in 266 BC was broken when the Megarians doused some pigs with combustible pitch or resin, set them alight, and drove them towards the enemy's massed war elephants. The elephants bolted in terror from the flaming, squealing pigs, often killing great numbers of their own soldiers.

9 posted on 03/16/2014 6:52:35 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Renfield

Everything old is new again.

10 posted on 03/16/2014 6:55:27 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Cogito, ergo armatum sum.)
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To: momtothree
What doeth the fox say?

Judges 15:3-5

3Samson then said to them, “This time I shall be blameless in regard to the Philistines when I do them harm.”

4Samson went and caught three hundred foxes, and took torches, and turned the foxes tail to tail and put one torch in the middle between two tails.

5When he had set fire to the torches, he released the foxes into the standing grain of the Philistines, thus burning up both the shocks and the standing grain, along with the vineyards and groves.


11 posted on 03/16/2014 6:55:43 AM PDT by Rodamala (Samson: one badass dude.)
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To: Renfield

A precursor of BF Skinner?


12 posted on 03/16/2014 6:57:39 AM PDT by donozark (The voices inside my head may not be real, but they have some good ideas!)
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To: Renfield

My guess is they attacked their enemies with flaming animals.

During WWII, we were gonna drop bombs over Japanese cities that were filled with bats that had little incendiary bombs strapped to them. They believe the plan was cancelled because of the Manhattan Project.

Not sure why they were testing such a thing. The incendiary bombs were were already using were doing one hell(literally) of a job.


13 posted on 03/16/2014 7:00:40 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Renfield

Then again, they could have been using part of the technology given to them by “aliens” a millennium ago. I saw it on the History Channel!


14 posted on 03/16/2014 7:03:17 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Renfield
Sadly, this arms race continued to spiral out of control for centuries:

"In 1862, during the New Mexico Campaign of the American Civil War a Confederate force approached the ford at Valverde, six miles north of Fort Craig, hoping to cut Union communications between the fort and their headquarters in Santa Fe. About midnight, Union Captain James Craydon tried to blow up a few rebel picket posts by sending mules loaded with barrels of fused gunpowder into the Confederate lines, but the faithful old army mules insisted on wandering back toward the Union camp before blowing to bits. Although the only casualties were two mules, the explosions stampeded a herd of Confederate beef cattle and horses into the Union's lines, so depriving the Confederate troops of some much-needed provisions and horses." link

15 posted on 03/16/2014 7:05:39 AM PDT by Flag_This (Liberalism: Kills countries dead.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Did they serve the cooked pigs afterward?

Mmmmmhhhh, Bacon.


16 posted on 03/16/2014 7:15:54 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Renfield

The Soviets famously used dogs with bombs strapped to their backs in attempt to destroy German tanks in WW2. They applied Pavlov’s principles by feeding the dogs underneath tanks, then starving thems, so they would run under the panzers in search of food. It was not very successful. First the dogs would refuse to run under the tanks because of the noise of the engines and gunfire and return to the Soviet trenches with their bombs, killing their own handlers. After fixing that problem by feeding the dogs under running tanks, the Russians forgot that their own tanks ran on diesel, but the Germans’ ran on gasoline, so the bomb-dogs, with their keen sense of smell, would run under the same kind they were trained on - diesel.


17 posted on 03/16/2014 7:16:02 AM PDT by Apparatchik (If you find yourself in a confusing situation, simply laugh knowingly and walk away - Jim Ignatowski)
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To: Renfield

Symbolic Science FIction perhaps?


18 posted on 03/16/2014 7:35:24 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Jesus came to Save not Entertain / Ground John Kerry Now!)
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To: Apparatchik

Two Idiots Go Ice Fishing
“True Story” [NOT!!] From Michigan, USA.

Guy buys a brand new Grand Cherokee for $30,000+, and has $400.00+ in monthly payments. He’s pretty proud of this rig, and gets a hold of his friend to do some male bonding with the new ride. They go duck hunting and of course all the lakes are frozen.

These two Atomic Brains go to the lake with theiIr guns, the dog, the beer and of course the new vehicle. They drive out onto the ice. Now, they want to make some kind of a natural landing area to attract ducks - something the decoys will float on. Remember it’s all ice, and in order to make a hole large enough to interest a flock of ducks - a hole big enough to entice ducks to land, they needed to use a little more than an ice hole drill...

Sooo, out of the back of the brand-new Jeep Grand Cherokee comes a stick of dynamite with a short 40-Second fuse.

Now to their credit, these two rocket scientists DID take into consideration that if they placed the stick of dynamite on the ice at a location far from where they (and the new Grand Cherokee) would be waiting and ran back quickly, they would risk slipping on the ice as they ran from the imminent explosion and could possibly go up in smoke with the resulting blast. After a little deliberation, they come up with the idea of lighting and THROWING the dynamite, which is what they end up doing.

Remember a couple of paragraphs back when I mentioned the vehicle, the beer, the guns AND THE DOG ???? Yes, the dog. The driver’s pet Black Lab (used for retrieving - especially things thrown by the owner) is present and on duty.

You guessed it, the dog takes off at a high rate of doggy speed on the ice, reaching the stick of dynamite with the burning 40 second fuse about the time it hits the ice - all to the woe of the two idiots which are now yelling, stomping, waving arms and wondering what the hell to do now...

The dog is very happy and now heads back toward the “hunters” with the stick of dynamite. I think we all can picture the ever-increasing concern on the part of the brain trust, as the loyal Labrador Retriever approaches. The Bozo’s now are REALLY waving their arms - yelling even louder and generally feeling kinda panicked..

Now finally one of the guys decides to think — something that neither had done before this moment — grabs a shotgun and shoots the dog. This sounds better than it really is, because the shotgun was loaded with #8 duck shot and hardly effective enough to stop the excited lab. The dog DID stop for a moment, slightly confused, but then continued on. Another shot, and this time the dog - still standing, became REALLY confused & of course scared.

Thinking that these two Nobel Prize Winners have gone TOTALLY INSANE, the pooch takes off to find cover with a now extremely short fuse still burning on the stick of dynamite.

The cover the dogs finds? Underneath the brand new Grand Cherokee worth 30-some thousand dollars - the $400.00+ monthly payment vehicle that is sitting nearby on the lake ice.

BOOM !

Dog dies, vehicle sinks to bottom of lake, and these two “Co-Leaders of the Known Universe” are left standing there with this “I can’t EVEN believe this happened to me” look on their faces.

Later, the owner of the vehicle calls his insurance company and is promptly informed that sinking a vehicle in a lake by illegal use of explosives is NOT covered on his policy... He had yet to make his first car payment.

[JOKE- Not a true story]


19 posted on 03/16/2014 7:41:38 AM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: Renfield

Ouch—an idea borrowed from Samson?


20 posted on 03/16/2014 7:42:39 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Focault's Pendulum

21 posted on 03/16/2014 7:54:38 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: KoRn
Then again, they could have been using part of the technology given to them by “aliens” a millennium ago.

What else could it be? Except, maybe, Bigfoot.


22 posted on 03/16/2014 7:56:28 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Renfield

No sharks with friken laser beams?


23 posted on 03/16/2014 8:07:02 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Apparatchik

Interesting
I had to read some more about it...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-tank_dog


24 posted on 03/16/2014 9:04:22 AM PDT by libertarian27 (FreeRepublic Cookbooks 2011 & 2012 - Click Profile)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

LOL! That guy was exactly what I had in mind!

I wonder where in the hell they found those people for that show? I actually watched one episode of it, and that was quite enough. Sure they raise some interesting questions regarding ancient people and technology, but they get crazy with their theories.


25 posted on 03/16/2014 9:39:36 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: BwanaNdege
[JOKE- Not a true story]

WHAT ?!? I don't believe you. Nobody could make that up!

26 posted on 03/16/2014 9:57:34 AM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Focault's Pendulum; Slings and Arrows; Glenn; republicangel; Beaker; BADROTOFINGER; etabeta; ...
If this had ever been tried, I suspect that the perpetrators would have done far more damage to themselves than the enemy. (And it would have served them right.)


27 posted on 03/16/2014 11:16:38 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Richard Warman censors free speech.)
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To: Slings and Arrows
I pretty sure there was this famous guy named Leonardo da Bond from back then. He's was always inventin' crazy stuff like this.


28 posted on 03/16/2014 12:09:56 PM PDT by Daffynition ("If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." ~ Henry Ford)
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To: Rodamala

What does the fox say?!

http://www.wimp.com/truckradio/


29 posted on 03/16/2014 12:40:38 PM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: Slings and Arrows

I heard this discussed as part of a quiz show on NPR yesterday (pick the true news story, and the guy picked right but I’m not sure if he knew or guessed) and that was what the host said.


30 posted on 03/16/2014 3:24:54 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: jocon307

Like I said, served them right.


31 posted on 03/16/2014 3:35:26 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Richard Warman censors free speech.)
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To: Twotone

The orange light bar coming on was a nice touch... I was laugh as hard as the guys filming that.


32 posted on 03/16/2014 3:42:02 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: dr_lew; BwanaNdege
[JOKE- Not a true story]

WHAT ?!? I don't believe you. Nobody could make that up!

This actually made it to Mythbusters a while back. Those guys just LOVE explosions!

Mark

33 posted on 03/16/2014 10:23:58 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Santa Fe Shelter Offers ‘Barn Cats’ For Adoption
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3133032/posts


34 posted on 03/17/2014 8:01:51 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Renfield; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
Thanks Renfield. Viking kitties!

35 posted on 03/17/2014 8:03:11 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: momtothree

Why this was a bad idea:

http://www.examiner.com/article/snake-burns-down-house-after-woman-lights-it-on-fire-video

And in honor of the clever little snake, I bought a domain name

http://www.flamingsnakes.com

:)


36 posted on 03/17/2014 8:45:20 AM PDT by Salamander (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: KoRn; shibumi

37 posted on 03/17/2014 8:47:49 AM PDT by Salamander (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Salamander

Snagged!

LMAO!


38 posted on 03/17/2014 11:27:54 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Lee'sGhost; shibumi

I snagged it from Shibumi.

He knows I love that ludicrous show.

:)


39 posted on 03/17/2014 5:06:58 PM PDT by Salamander (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: BwanaNdege; All

Definitely candidates for the Darwin award, except they managed not to get killed.


40 posted on 03/18/2014 2:00:11 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Renfield

Horrible..


41 posted on 03/18/2014 10:41:48 AM PDT by Fawn ("My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" Hosea 4:6)
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To: Renfield

Scary. I have that as my screensaver on my Mac even as I type.
Shared it with someone at work about a year ago. :-)


42 posted on 03/23/2014 8:10:57 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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