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Is missing Malaysian jet the world's first CYBER HIJACK?
DailyMail UK ^ | March 16, 2014 | Wills Robinson

Posted on 03/16/2014 7:20:17 AM PDT by COUNTrecount

Is missing Malaysian jet the world’s first CYBER HIJACK? Chilling new theory claims hackers could use a mobile phone to take over the controls

Anti-terror expert said plane's direction could be changed by radio signals Speed and altitude could also be changed from device using 'codes' Possibility that it could be made to land using remote control Pilot's friends said he had always been a 'gadget geek' at school

A chilling theory suggests the missing Malaysian Airlines plane could have been hijacked using a mobile phone or USB stick.

An anti-terror expert believes the speed, altitude and direction of the aircraft could have been changed, simply by sending radio signals from a small remote device.

A framework of 'codes' created by cyber terrorists would also be able to get into the plane's in-flight entertainment system and override the security software.

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It is also believed, once the systems have been successfully hacked, the plane could be landed by remote control.

The theory has emerged as the search for flight MH370 continues to grow, with 25 countries now involved in the rescue effort.

Yesterday, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak confirmed the plane's disappearance was the result of a 'deliberate act' and could have flown as far as Kazakstan.

Dr Sally Leivesley, a former Home Office official, said: 'It might well be the world’s first cyber hijack.'

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1 posted on 03/16/2014 7:20:17 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: COUNTrecount

Short answer to the article’s title-——NO.


2 posted on 03/16/2014 7:22:04 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: COUNTrecount

As I understand it, some of the tracking equipment requires someone to get into the electronics compartment under the cockpit and physically flip breakers to shut them off.


3 posted on 03/16/2014 7:23:44 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: COUNTrecount

Nope.


4 posted on 03/16/2014 7:28:25 AM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: COUNTrecount
I am sure you all realize that the US response to this has been a bit weird....and here may be the reason why

Flying With Fish ‏@flyingwithfish 11h @realbhuwan Based on what sources have told me, I have been saying state backed actions for a week in regard to #MH370
https://twitter.com/flyingwithfish
5 posted on 03/16/2014 7:28:57 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Um... so which “state”?


6 posted on 03/16/2014 7:35:01 AM PDT by bryan999
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To: RummyChick

Flying with fish’s twitter feed asks some pretty interesting questions, btw.


7 posted on 03/16/2014 7:37:45 AM PDT by bryan999
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To: RummyChick

Hillary! ridding herself of a few people who know too much prior to her ascension to the throne? b ;)


8 posted on 03/16/2014 7:38:03 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: RummyChick

Couple of things that have happened over the last year. The first was this story about hacking an airplane with a cell phone came up and was debunked. Second was that reporter killed in California who it was believed had his Mercedes hacked. The last was last week. It was reported that the Russians somehow either hacked or interrupted the signal of an American drone and captured it.

Also this past week was the hackers competition. The team that broke Apples Safari was Chinese. While most of this would seem irrelevant, why couldn’t someone plant a program in the planes operating system prior to taking off then shoot a signal to it from pretty much anywhere? Our engineers reposition satellites and move Rogers around from hundreds of thousands of miles away.

Why would this be any different?


9 posted on 03/16/2014 7:38:50 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Insurgent Conservative)
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To: bryan999

That is the question. It could be anyone...and more than one...and even the US.

Although, if the US I think it would have been handled much differently..


10 posted on 03/16/2014 7:40:19 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: EQAndyBuzz

This goes back to the point that a Freescape employee was murdered/suicided who was working with the company that was kicked out of the US for spying...who just happened to have some people on that plane. The Telecom still hasnt said who.

Both companies had people on that plane.

I thought it was interesting that Boeing recently said they had warned ..were worried...dont really remember exactly what they said or what....about how a plane could be hacked


11 posted on 03/16/2014 7:43:37 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: cripplecreek

This whole thing is strange. They flipped off the flight recorders, went to the ceiling, descended rapidly, took a left, then a right, and then poof, gone into the ether.

The cyber hijack, while extremely remote, I suppose is possible but unlikely.

The best thought I have seen so far is that they were headed for Diego Garcia, a military island where the US has a major runway where we can project military power into most of the Indian ocean, Africa, and SE Asia. A hit there would be a major blow to that projection and would benefit the Chinese immensely as well as anyone in Afria up to the Russain border in range of B-52’s.

Don’t rule out the Chinese...it’s citizen are expendable to it’s government and with Diego Garcia neutralized they could do whatever they wanted while Bath House Barry diddles with Reggie Love.


12 posted on 03/16/2014 7:50:48 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: RummyChick
"Flying With Fish ‏@flyingwithfish 11h @realbhuwan Based on what sources have told me, I have been saying state backed actions for a week in regard to #MH370 https://twitter.com/flyingwithfish"

Is there an interpretation of this available?... What is this in regards to and what is person trying to say?

13 posted on 03/16/2014 7:51:11 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: Hatteras

State Sponsored Terrorism to get at the people/cargo.


14 posted on 03/16/2014 7:55:46 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Ouderkirk

“Don’t rule out the Chinese...it’s citizen are expendable to it’s government and with Diego Garcia neutralized they could do whatever they wanted while Bath House Barry diddles with Reggie Love.”

There were a bunch of employees on there from Freescape/The Carlyle Group.

Maybe China wanted to hurt that company in retribution over one of their employees outing the Spying. The guy who was murdered/suicided.

Motive Kind of far fetched (but so is this whole thing)..but it is completely possible China did it for whatever reason.


15 posted on 03/16/2014 7:59:28 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: COUNTrecount

bkm


16 posted on 03/16/2014 8:07:13 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: COUNTrecount; CodeToad

Don’t overthink it. I have been exchanging FB PMs with an active 767 pilot (American) who flies for an Asian airline, stationed and flying Boings currently in SE Asia. He says that it could be a one-pilot job. This is one possible theory. One pilot locks the other out during a restroom break, or incapacitates or kills him in the cockpit.

My 767 pilot FB friend says that a single pilot in the cockpit can turn off all the commo and transponders etc EXCEPT for the engine telemetry going to the satellite, which would require a trip down into the service bay. The trap door is right behind the cockpit door. A one-pilot hijacking, similar in some ways to Egypt Air. (Solitary “Sudden Jihad Syndrome” being probable.)

Working theory: one pilot hijacked the plane. The other pilot (if locked out) and/or the flight engineer on board go down into the service tunnel and begin yanking out navigation equipment plugs.

The hijacker pilot can fly the plane manually, but not by autopilot and not using GPS. He would only have a backup compass to steer by. Everything on a screen can be darkened by the pilot/engineer in the service bay. One plug at a time, the hijacker’s job becomes more and more difficult.

It might have been a “Flight 92” situation with the other pilot and/or the flight engineer trying to prevent another 9-11. If the hijacker was screaming over the intercom at the folks pounding on the door, “Allahu Akbar! I will burn the infidels and you can’t stop me!” the situation would be pretty clear.

So it might have been a single jihad nut-job pilot, versus a plane load of passengers including an engineer who know how to stop the pilot-hijacker from navigating to his target.


17 posted on 03/16/2014 8:39:39 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: RummyChick

Like I said...the best theory that I have read so far.

None of this makes any sense. The pilot/co-pilot/Navigator shouting Allah Akbar and trying to splash the plane works too.

The weird flight path makes a struggle for control look highly likely, and the victor(s) having only to sit back and fly in a direction where the plane simply runs out of fuel and ends up in the drink.

But usually those who are interested in martyrdom want the whole world to know it.


18 posted on 03/16/2014 8:45:29 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: House Atreides

I believe that the Iranians claim to have cyber-jacked one of our drones about a year or so ago. I have no doubt that they may have, using a hacker that was probably educated in the US (at taxpayer expense - those “foreign student” grants bite us in the butt in oh so many ways, right Baraq?)


19 posted on 03/16/2014 8:50:26 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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To: Travis McGee

Your friend is far more correct and giving a possible scenario than a cyber attack. As someone that helped create some of the 777 avionics I know for a fact that no part of the 777 flight controls are even attached to another computer or communications system for a hack attack to even be physically possible.


20 posted on 03/16/2014 9:32:11 AM PDT by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: Travis McGee

Some sense here, but Travis, if so, why’d he crash?


21 posted on 03/16/2014 9:43:03 AM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: LS; CodeToad; RummyChick; Ouderkirk

It may have begun as a solo hijack by a rogue jihad pilot, followed by a struggle for control of the jet’s systems.

The pilot can take her up to 45,000’ to try to incapacitate the pax who are trying to cut off his nav systems etc.

One system at a time, the outside team is in the service bay removing abilities from the hijacker pilot.

What began as a struggle for control may have ended as a Payne Stewart situation, with the jet flying until the fuel was gone.


22 posted on 03/16/2014 9:47:38 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: COUNTrecount

23 posted on 03/16/2014 9:51:08 AM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: Ouderkirk
But usually those who are interested in martyrdom want the whole world to know it.

Exactly. Sorry, this just doesn't seem like hijacking or terrorism. I can't explain the transponders, but one could posit a scenario in which one pilot has a heart attack/aneurism/epileptic fit and pulls back hard on the controls. Maybe the co-pilot wasn't buckled in, was out of his seat, or otherwise knocked out for a few min. The plane ascends rapidly, causing everyone to black out. The pilot maybe comes to, maybe doesn't, maybe releases the controls enough that it banks. Who knows?

The reason I bring this up is a book called "Dead Mountain." It's the story of a group of nine Russian skiers back in 1959. They were on a kind of Boy Scout expedition for skiers to reach a milestone so they could be instructors. They camped on a mountain called "Dead Mountain" in the Urals. Then disappeared. Weeks later, rescue parties find their tent---nothing at all out of place, food and skis stacked, no sign of a fight, but some rips in the tent as though someone was trying to get in. They soon found the bodies---a few hundred to several hundred yards away, none of them in winter gear, some in virtually underwear, frozen to death. Something caused them to leave that tent in the middle of a Russian winter on a mountain without clothes or shoes!

For 40 years people have been unable to really figure out what happened. Theories that it was bandits were disproven; local villagers were all accounted for; and there was no violence in the tent.

The author recreated the trip and came to the astounding conclusion that at that spot on the mountain the wind, coming over the peaks, caused a sonic effect that basically causes you to go crazy. It disorients you, makes you paranoid, and it's like a mass hallucinogen. They RAN outside, thinking something was after them, when it was a sonic disruption of their brain patterns.

My point with this flight is, it could be something totally innocent, yet totally weird.

24 posted on 03/16/2014 9:51:49 AM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: CodeToad

Erratum: He’s not a “flight engineer,” there is no such position on a 777. He was an aviation/avionics engineer on his way to Beijing to take care of an Air Malaysia jet, I believe. An engineer, not a “flight engineer.”


25 posted on 03/16/2014 9:52:39 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

The part that seems to allude people: Radar does not require ANY electronics on the aircraft to be operative, so where are the radar tapes showing the tracking? Both civil and military systems track aircraft. Where is that data? It does exist, guaranteed.


26 posted on 03/16/2014 9:55:38 AM PDT by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: LS

With 200+ pax on board, presumably conscious for at least a while during and after and obvious struggle to control the aircraft, the mystery may be solved by a “message in a bottle.”

Numerous pax may have been recording events and observations on their smart phones, and a few may have done a good job of sealing them in multiple plastic bags, and inside of layers of tough floating luggage. A foam padded computer valise inside a hard case, tied up well, etc.

Simple hand-written notes would be even more durable if sealed in baggies and then a floating piece of carry-on luggage.

We might find out what happened to 370 when something like that floats up on an island in months or years.


27 posted on 03/16/2014 9:57:16 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: CodeToad

It might have taken the SW route over open water past Australia, no radar way out there.


28 posted on 03/16/2014 9:58:33 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

American Navy not out there? No US or foreign cutters doing shipping channel work? No White Cloud satellites roaming the skies?

There is always something that can be brought to bear on an RF target. Always.

I am waiting for the US government to release the info.


29 posted on 03/16/2014 10:19:10 AM PDT by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: Travis McGee

I find the Deigo Garcia angle intrguing. A damaged US facility there would allow that portion of the world sans US presence to change drastically. The Chinese know this. Those same Chinese who are attempting to build a blue water navy, etc. etc. The Iranians benefit too. It has a 12,000’ runway to launch B-52’s and a service station for Subs and other surface ships that would impede Iran’s attempt to close the Straights of Hormuz.

Diego Garcia is another Pearl Harbor waiting to happen. It is well within the range of this plane, about 2600 miles to Bejing, 2100 miles to Deigo Garcia.

I like this theory the best of what have heard so far. First saw it here (http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3133736/posts).

Who would be the beneficiaries of such an attack if successful against the US and what would Bath-House Barry do about it? Shut down Diego Garcia rather than rebuild it?

I know it’s a stretch, and is seriously heading off in tinfoil hat land but if the plane were loaded with explosives and if the mission failed, it had to get ditched someplace deep where recovery of anything would be difficult.

The world rightly perceives Bath-House Barry as a pussy, and worse.

Your basic crash even pilot suicide we would find a trace of it.... some flotsam in the ocean somewhere... So far, nothng, which means to me that it went down whole.


30 posted on 03/16/2014 10:28:22 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: COUNTrecount; a fool in paradise

Here’s my chilling new theory: no news today? Invent some!


31 posted on 03/16/2014 10:36:05 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: Ouderkirk

I thought that the ‘flight recorders’ were those black box things. Can those be flipped off in flight by someone?


32 posted on 03/16/2014 10:41:10 AM PDT by bobby.223 (L)
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To: CodeToad

I hope we find out if they do have the tracking info.


33 posted on 03/16/2014 10:49:33 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Ouderkirk

I think Occam’s Razor points to no conspiracy, but simply another singleton example of Sudden Jihad Syndrome a la Egypt Air, but with a destination and a target, thwarted by the pax and on-board engineer.

This would be very problematic, P.R.-wise, for a struggling national airline with mainly muslim pilots. Even worse than a mystery helped by national incompetence at tracking airliners.


34 posted on 03/16/2014 10:52:51 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

>>The hijacker pilot can fly the plane manually, but not by autopilot and not using GPS. He would only have a backup compass to steer by. Everything on a screen can be darkened by the pilot/engineer in the service bay. One plug at a time, the hijacker’s job becomes more and more difficult.<<

I don’t think it is possible to fly a 777 in the dark of night with a dead panel. Having a magnetic backup compass for heading guidance is fine but maintaining a level fight without a speed indicator is impossible. Just one degree off will result in either overspeeding or a stall.


35 posted on 03/16/2014 10:59:58 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: B4Ranch

Two comments on your post.

1. Pitch plus power equals performance. You set the power, maintain a pitch attitude in reference to the horizon and you keep flying. Maybe not at a perfect altitude or speed, but you stay in the air.

2. The old parable of the scorpion crossing the river on the back of a frog. If “the good guys” disable all the nav and flight info to the flight deck, then they defeat the hijcacker at their own peril. They might prevent a 9-11 flight into an innocent target, but they just sealed their own fate and those of the passengers.


36 posted on 03/16/2014 11:21:00 AM PDT by CFIIIMEIATP737
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To: B4Ranch

The 777 has backup indicators. They are in the center panel.


37 posted on 03/16/2014 12:24:46 PM PDT by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: CFIIIMEIATP737; CodeToad
>>The hijacker pilot can fly the plane manually, but not by autopilot and not using GPS. He would only have a backup compass to steer by. Everything on a screen can be darkened by the pilot/engineer in the service bay. One plug at a time, the hijacker’s job becomes more and more difficult.<<

I don’t think it is possible to fly a 777 in the dark of night with a dead panel.

If you can't see the panel, I don't think it is possible to feel fly a heavy aircraft.

38 posted on 03/16/2014 12:40:18 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: B4Ranch; CodeToad

If the plane is never found, and the BB is never recovered, we may never know. But I’m guessing that there was an epic battle between the lone jihad pilot, and everybody else on the plane. Move and counter-move, between the lone pilot, and the engineer and/or others as they unplugged systems to hobble the hijacker. Eventually, the plane became unflyable either due to a progression of systems cutoffs, or fuel starvation.

That is my best guess, no better than yours.

Maybe someday that proverbial “message in the bottle” from a passenger will wash up and solve some of the mysteries.


39 posted on 03/16/2014 1:02:17 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: B4Ranch

Backup systems have backup lighting. It wouldn’t be a dark, so a “dead panel” does not mean unlit backup instruments.


40 posted on 03/16/2014 1:41:54 PM PDT by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: Travis McGee

“That is my best guess, no better than yours.”

Exactly. This is all in funs and games but we aren’t the ones to solve it. I like the speculation as a mind twist but nothing more.


41 posted on 03/16/2014 1:42:41 PM PDT by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: CodeToad

If I was one of the pax, I’d have tried to record it for history, in notes if nothing else. Nearly everything washes ashore eventually.


42 posted on 03/16/2014 1:54:22 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: CodeToad

I’ve had a peripheral involvement with 777 avionics development myself and am inclined to agree with you.


43 posted on 03/16/2014 1:55:08 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: CodeToad

This from Travis Post 17

>>The hijacker pilot can fly the plane manually, but not by autopilot and not using GPS. He would only have a backup compass to steer by. Everything on a screen can be darkened by the pilot/engineer in the service bay. One plug at a time, the hijacker’s job becomes more and more difficult.<<

My response is a reply to what he wrote using the assumption that it occurs during hours of darkness and the panel is totally dead, which includes the backup systems.

I have no doubts that you’ll solve what happened before anyone else does.


44 posted on 03/16/2014 2:02:03 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: Travis McGee

I do agree with your assessment of Sudden Jihad.

It’s simplicity is its strength, and by far is the most reasonable explanation via Occam.

The “to be used later” and even the Diego Garcia angle involves a conspiracy far greater than can be contained by a few individuals.


45 posted on 03/16/2014 2:13:05 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Ouderkirk

That’s how I see it. And in a very real sense, “sudden jihad syndrome” is much, much worse for Air Malaysia and other muslim national airlines. If that is the determination, who will want to fly with muslims in the cockpit?


46 posted on 03/16/2014 2:55:23 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: B4Ranch

What about the Ram Air Turbine that supplies essential avionics? What about the flashlights that are required to be in the cockpit?


47 posted on 03/16/2014 3:27:38 PM PDT by CFIIIMEIATP737
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To: B4Ranch

I never said “feel fly”. You look out the window at the horizon. You maintain pitch based on that view.


48 posted on 03/16/2014 3:29:18 PM PDT by CFIIIMEIATP737
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To: B4Ranch

“I have no doubts that you’ll solve what happened before anyone else does.”

Same back at ya buddy. You’ll tell us all how it works just fine I’m sure.


49 posted on 03/16/2014 5:41:35 PM PDT by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: CFIIIMEIATP737

“What about the flashlights that are required to be in the cockpit?”

Now don’t go putting facts into the discussion, you’ll only make mad those without any.

Let’s not forget that Boeing also put in the...nevermind. Boeing secret I think. Let’s just say the pilot can fly if the entire avionics suite were destroyed somehow.


50 posted on 03/16/2014 5:43:39 PM PDT by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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