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Black Senior Forced to Choose: Obama or Jesus.
American Thinker ^ | March 17, 2014 | Lloyd Marcus

Posted on 03/17/2014 6:17:44 AM PDT by imardmd1

I had an extraordinary telephone conservation with my 86-year-old black dad, a lifelong Democrat and huge Obama fan. He called to ask me, "Is Obama anti-Christian?"

Dad has been a Christian pastor for over 50 years. I said, "Dad, I have been telling you about Obama's anti-Christian policies for the past five years." Dad replied, "And I have not been listening."

Dad confessed that he simply could not bring himself to go against a black man in the White House. I felt that dad was expressing the sentiments of many blacks of his era. I asked him to explain why he could not honestly assess our black president.

Dad became passionate. He said it was because of deep, deep scars he suffered at the hands of white people. Dad said, "I don't hate white people, but my scars run very deep – calling me a n***** and rubbing my head for luck."

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. . . I felt emboldened to challenge Dad regarding this sensitive issue. I said, "Dad, once you know the truth about Obama, which loyalty will reign supreme? Will it be your loyalty to a fellow black man or your commitment to Jesus Christ?"

Dad chuckled and replied without hesitation, "It will be to Jesus Christ."

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The current price of a sad past.
1 posted on 03/17/2014 6:17:44 AM PDT by imardmd1
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To: imardmd1

“Dad confessed that he simply could not bring himself to go against a black man in the White House.”

Nothing racist about that...

Glad to see the pastor has been awakened to the reality of his blind vote(s).


2 posted on 03/17/2014 6:20:59 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: imardmd1

My Irish grandma was the same way. Voting Democrat was an article of faith for her. Reagan made the difference.


3 posted on 03/17/2014 6:23:23 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: imardmd1
Dad confessed that he simply could not bring himself to go against a black man in the White House

And of course, there's nothing remotely racist about that, now is there? <sarcasm>

Just another democrat/black hypocrite, who can't see that this is every bit as racist as someone NOT supporting Obama because he is (half) black.

MLK must be spinning like a gyroscope in his grave...

4 posted on 03/17/2014 6:23:37 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: imardmd1

I grew up in the south and never have I heard of rubbing a black person’s head for luck...


5 posted on 03/17/2014 6:26:37 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: imardmd1
Obama supporters believe there is no difference, which is what their Dear Leader believes.


6 posted on 03/17/2014 6:26:45 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: imardmd1

Yes, but put another way - there were more white men who did nothing to the old Pastor than those who did…..and yet…..


7 posted on 03/17/2014 6:27:35 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Sicon

“MLK must be spinning like a gyroscope in his grave...”

I’m sorry, but I think MLK is resting quite nicely at how things have turned out. MLK has be raised to sainthood just like Mandela.

I know..I’m racist.


8 posted on 03/17/2014 6:28:46 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: imardmd1

That sounds like my father in Detroit, except his epiphany has yet to happen. As far as my dad is concerned, race relations in America are the same as during the Eisenhouer administration.


9 posted on 03/17/2014 6:30:45 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: Sicon; Gadsden1st
MLK must be spinning like a gyroscope in his grave...

Wrong.

King would walk up to Sharpton and Jackson and be like "Yo mah bruthas, y'all be franchisin' mah name, where's mah cut?"

( /Ebonics)

As far as the race industry goes, King would be into it up to his eyebrows.

10 posted on 03/17/2014 6:39:12 AM PDT by Old Sarge (TINVOWOOT: There Is No Voting Our Way Out Of This)
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To: imardmd1

And a distorted view that undying loyalty to Obama exacts revenge on white people.


11 posted on 03/17/2014 6:39:29 AM PDT by randita
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To: imardmd1

In my view, many who profess Christ in the black community believe another gospel. Most have been taught the social gospel and are unable to recognize what is and is not biblical Christianity, and that leads to this huge disconnect in the political arena. True Holy Spirit regeneration would do wonders for the political views of most blacks, not to mention what it would do for their souls.

And the truth is another gospel is now being preached among large swaths of white evangelicalism, too.


12 posted on 03/17/2014 6:39:48 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: Pollster1

Humor with a grain of truth.


13 posted on 03/17/2014 6:39:58 AM PDT by Excellence (All your database are belong to us.)
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To: imardmd1
Dad confessed that he simply could not bring himself to go against a black man in the White House.

Ninety-five percent of blacks approve of the Marxist Mulatto. Let that number sink in: NINETY-FIVE PERCENT. If you lined up twenty blacks, nineteen of them love Odinga.

LBJ is quoted as saying, "I'll have those n***ers voting Democrat for 200 years." The siren song of "Where's my free $hit?" ensures their loyalty. Only 150 years to go...

14 posted on 03/17/2014 6:44:11 AM PDT by Old Sarge (TINVOWOOT: There Is No Voting Our Way Out Of This)
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To: Sicon

How about not knocking the guy? You ever try to change the mind of an 86 year-old? Let’s be glad he (and believe me - many other black folks) are coming around to see what is sitting in the white house.

Yes, I know some of you won’t believe that. It’s because the state-sponsored media won’t report it. But when gay has become the new black, the urban economy has gone totally south, and a whole new minority is being imported to replace the black minority voting block - all courtesy of the current occupant at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, don’t think black folks haven’t noticed. Just don’t expect to see their anger and disgust on the front page of the New York Times.


15 posted on 03/17/2014 6:47:19 AM PDT by jimjohn (You don't get the kind of government you want, or the kind you need. You get the kind you deserve.)
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To: .45 Long Colt

I should have added that my comment wasn’t about Pastor Marcus. Mine was a general comment based on my experiences with the black community in Memphis and in Mississippi. I certainly know MANY in the black community who have truly been born again, but I also know many who don’t have any knowledge of the gospel, despite a lifetime in the church. This latter group always make me sad. We often use the same words, but it never takes long to recognize they have wildly different meanings.


16 posted on 03/17/2014 6:48:31 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: Old Sarge
King would walk up to Sharpton and Jackson and be like "Yo mah bruthas, y'all be franchisin' mah name, where's mah cut?"

Besides your changing the articulate MLK into a jive talker, what's your proof of that ? Or did you just pull it from your nether regions ?

17 posted on 03/17/2014 6:49:50 AM PDT by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: imardmd1
Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

1 John 4:4(KJV)

18 posted on 03/17/2014 6:55:07 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Zactly....


19 posted on 03/17/2014 6:56:31 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: imardmd1

Imagine if a white person had said he could not go against a white person in the white house?

Racism works both ways...

And this “late convert to christianity” has done a whole lot more for muslims than for christians or jews.


20 posted on 03/17/2014 6:56:39 AM PDT by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: imardmd1

Those same blacks have chosen the ‘black man in the White House’ instead of the United States of America too.

Racist to the core... they’d rather see the destruction of our country than go against a ‘black man in the White House’.

They are blind to anything but his color. And we’re the ones who are racist.

Personally, I’d vote for Clarence Thomas any day. Would they? Is it ANY black man? or is it THIS black man? Does their black man have to have this kind of thinking to be ‘revered’?

It’s never made any sense to me why obama is worthy of their allegiance. He makes them look bad. Do they realize this? To get a man in that position to revere... who isn’t worth the platform they have him on. Where has it gotten them, but living off the government. It hasn’t furthered them up the ladder of success.

Just doesn’t make any sense.


21 posted on 03/17/2014 6:58:11 AM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: frnewsjunkie

Very well said!


22 posted on 03/17/2014 7:01:21 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Resolute Conservative
"I grew up in the south and never have I heard of rubbing a black person’s head for luck..."

I remember a sermon preached to a bunch of Militia officers, in it he mentioned being stationed at the Naval Ammunition dept outside of Charleston in the early 60's, he mentioned seeing other Marines, rub the head of a black for luck. The sermon dealt with how we were and were not to treat our men in times of CallUp.

23 posted on 03/17/2014 7:02:57 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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To: Gadsden1st

I doubt someone who advocated tying someone’s hands behind their back and placing an old tire around their neck filled with gasoline and lighting it constitutes qualification for sainthood.


24 posted on 03/17/2014 7:03:17 AM PDT by Glennb51
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To: imardmd1

“Dad said, “I don’t hate white people, but my scars run very deep – calling me a n***** and rubbing my head for luck.”

Rubbing a black person’s head for luck? I’ve never heard of that practice before.


25 posted on 03/17/2014 7:03:42 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: imardmd1
The current price of a sad past.

Sadly, very true. Unfortunately, I don't think most Black "chrstians" will confront this conundrum at all.

26 posted on 03/17/2014 7:04:17 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: imardmd1
What amazes me is that people see Obama as an American "black man".

When I look at him, I see his 1960's hippie, America Hating white mother and his grandfather with a best friend Chicago black (Frank Marshall Davis) who was/is a card carrying Communist.

Evidently, all many blacks see is skin pigment.

While I hear what the good pastor is saying--he doesn't hate white people; I also hear that he isn't forgetting or forgiving, either.

Good old politics of victimization is alive and flourishing.

vaudine

27 posted on 03/17/2014 7:04:40 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: Resolute Conservative
I grew up in the south and never have I heard of rubbing a black person’s head for luck...

Me neither.

28 posted on 03/17/2014 7:05:26 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: frnewsjunkie

“Just doesn’t make any sense.”

Sure it does. Most are racist. This is their big chance to stick it to the white man.


29 posted on 03/17/2014 7:05:33 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: imardmd1

In my opinion, and I’m more of a layperson than a theological expert, the anti-Christ will not be an outwardly evil person. He may be kindly, warm, and friendly. But he will stand in opposition to Christ’s message. He will serve to negate Christ and deliver men away from Christ. He’ll speak a secular message designed to fool people into a false salvation.

If a crook walks up to you wearing a mask and holding a gun you’ll resist but if he wears a suit and a smile he’ll pick your pocket clean.

That’s why I think some people focus on the secular message of Jesus and ignore the spiritual teachings. They want the motion of salvation of which they won’t receive. If deeds alone...


30 posted on 03/17/2014 7:07:17 AM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: MNDude

I saw it in a movie called Flyboys. I think.


31 posted on 03/17/2014 7:07:28 AM PDT by LouAvul (In a state of disbelief as to how liberals destroyed America in a mere 40 years.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Same here


32 posted on 03/17/2014 7:07:29 AM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: lee martell
That sounds like my father in Detroit, except his epiphany has yet to happen. As far as my dad is concerned, race relations in America are the same as during the Eisenhouer administration.

I want to ask you something. Even if race relations were as bad as they were during Eisenhower's administration, how can he go along with homosexual fanaticism and the left's ridicule of what is supposed to be his own religion? Why do race relations trump every other consideration?

I'm asking this honestly. And btw, my ancestors were Southern Unionists who have been Republican since Lincoln.

33 posted on 03/17/2014 7:08:55 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: Gadsden1st
QUOTE: MLK has be raised to sainthood just like Mandela.

I read his semi-autobiography recently, as it was pieced together from his letters, notes and public utterances, with minimal commentary by the author. While I admire him in some respects, he was not a Christian, in that he rejected the bodily resurrection of Christ. His was a liberal interpretation of the scriptures to the full, also denying the virgin birth and deity of Christ.

34 posted on 03/17/2014 7:12:03 AM PDT by jimmyray
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To: SgtHooper

It is revenge, isn’t it!! To destroy the “white man’s country’ and the ‘Uncle Tom’s’ country .... but they will have nothing left and they can’t look beyond their own hate.

Didn’t Martin Luther King sing “we shall overcome”? This is not overcoming.. this is annihilation.


35 posted on 03/17/2014 7:14:19 AM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: jimt
Besides your changing the articulate MLK into a jive talker, what's your proof of that ? Or did you just pull it from your nether regions ?

Martin Luther King Jr. was a man of the Left through and through. The only reason he wasn't into "gay rights" or the PLO was that in his day those hadn't yet caught on with the American Left.

He wasn't even an orthodox chrstian. He was a disciple of liberal German higher criticism and rejected all the orthodox dogmas in favor of religion as a utilitarian inspiration for a purely secular concept of justice. His own words are available online to prove this.

36 posted on 03/17/2014 7:14:50 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: imardmd1
Idolatry is a huge issue in the Black community, as well as in the Jewish community.

Blacks, even many godly Christian Black men, seem to feel that their undying allegiance and loyalty is to another Black person — no matter what — at the expense of the Lordship of Jesus.

Similarly, Jewish people hold their cultish liberal political views in complete idolatry over the Savior.

Other people use other means to put their trust and hope in things a belief system rather than in Christ.

I salute Lloyd and his father for coming to the cross in this manner. It is an example to all of us.

37 posted on 03/17/2014 7:16:50 AM PDT by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: imardmd1

IF his accounting of his lineage is accurate, he is seven eighths white anyway. Unless you count the 3/8 Arab as nonwhite, that is.


38 posted on 03/17/2014 7:17:24 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: frnewsjunkie
Personally, I’d vote for Clarence Thomas any day. Would they? Is it ANY black man? or is it THIS black man? Does their black man have to have this kind of thinking to be ‘revered’?

Obviously. Any Black who puts his religion ahead of his skin color is reviled as an "uncle tom." And have you heard any American Black support for Nigeria, Uganda, Angola, or the Central African Republic in their war against homosexuality and/or islam? And Black "leaders" have been apologizing for the islamic war on Blacks in the South Sudan for thirty years or more.

39 posted on 03/17/2014 7:18:27 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: imardmd1

re: Dad chuckled and replied without hesitation, “It will be to Jesus Christ.”

Marcus got the answer that he wanted from his dad. But will his dad continue to support Obama no matter what like nearly 100% of blacks in this country?


40 posted on 03/17/2014 7:22:43 AM PDT by Nevadan
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To: Obadiah
Similarly, Jewish people hold their cultish liberal political views

Correction--that's liberal Jews. True, this category includes far too many Orthodox Jews and and the vast majority of people who identify as Jews, but it's still liberal Jews.

in complete idolatry over the Savior.

Worship of the chrstian "savior" would be a capital offense, since it is idolatry.

41 posted on 03/17/2014 7:23:25 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: imardmd1

What does racism have to do with old black people voting democrat? Their real friends since Lincoln have always been republicans and the republican party.


42 posted on 03/17/2014 7:23:56 AM PDT by MNnice
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To: imardmd1
A bad example becomes a good example! Perhaps this is one example of something occurring simultaneously across the nation.

How many are "color-blinded" by the crosses they resent bearing? By their past enemies they cannot bring themselves to forgive or even love, as Jesus commanded?

Nice to see a pastor finally wake up to the worldly reality he sleepwalks through while guided by his past the Enemy won't let him forget nor forgive.

43 posted on 03/17/2014 7:27:24 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: jimt
From "I May Not Get There With You: The True Martin Luther King" by Michael Eric Dyson - King supported black power, reparations, affirmative action, and socialism. He believes this made King even more admirable. He also deals frankly with King's philandering and plagiarism, though he makes excuses for them.

“If a city has a 30% Negro population, then it is logical to assume that Negroes should have at least 30% of the jobs in any particular company, and jobs in all categories rather than only in menial areas.”
~ MLK's own words, Playboy interview 1968.

From MLK's book "Why We Can't Wait" (unless Bill Ayers ghost-wrote it, these are his own words):

"No amount of gold could provide an adequate compensation for the exploitation and humiliation of the Negro in America down through the centuries…Yet a price can be placed on unpaid wages. The ancient common law has always provided a remedy for the appropriation of a the labor of one human being by another. This law should be made to apply for American Negroes. The payment should be in the form of a massive program by the government of special, compensatory measures which could be regarded as a settlement in accordance with the accepted practice of common law."

FBI surveillance showed that King had dozens of extramarital affairs. Although many of the pertinent records are sealed, several agents who watched observed him engage in many questionable acts including buying prostitutes with SCLC money. Ralph Abernathy, who King called "the best friend I have in the world," substantiated many of these charges in his autobiography, "And the Walls Came Tumbling Down".

There. A list of facts, and I didn't need to insult you once. You can't say the same.

44 posted on 03/17/2014 7:33:28 AM PDT by Old Sarge (TINVOWOOT: There Is No Voting Our Way Out Of This)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

This is a bit off topic, but I have never understood why people use Uncle Tom as a negative stereotype. If anyone has read “Uncle Tom’s Cabin,” Tom is an extraordinarily brave and principled man (the ending of the book makes you want to stand up and cheer for him), with Godly character. He utilized Christian principles, and stood up against those people against those principles, at the risk of his own life. Why is he a negative stereotype?


45 posted on 03/17/2014 7:34:17 AM PDT by freepertoo
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To: SgtHooper
Blacks are more racist than Whites

~ Larry Elder, The Ten Things You Can't Say In America

46 posted on 03/17/2014 7:34:39 AM PDT by Old Sarge (TINVOWOOT: There Is No Voting Our Way Out Of This)
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

> My Irish grandma was the same way. Voting Democrat was an article of faith for her. Reagan made the difference.

It was for me too unil 2008 because my father and his father were as well (no need for the donkey joke comments). I have voted Republican since. It had nothing to to with race; it had everything to do with what I sensed about the man and his ideologies after Ai read up on him. Even with the MSM being compliit in hiding his background, Islamic faith, and ideologies at the beginning I still sensed there was something “not quite right” anout the man and it turns out my instincts were right.


47 posted on 03/17/2014 7:41:00 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: SgtHooper

> “Just doesn’t make any sense.”

Sure it does. Most are racist. This is their big chance to stick it to the white man.

Sadly all they are really doing is stivking it to themselves...


48 posted on 03/17/2014 7:46:42 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Obadiah

There should be a point where all Christians hear God ask them that question, “Who do you love more?”. There is a price to be paid for the answer, but an even greater price has already been paid for our eternity.


49 posted on 03/17/2014 7:54:44 AM PDT by grame (May you know more of the love of God Almighty this day!)
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To: Resolute Conservative
I grew up in the south and never have I heard of rubbing a black person’s head for luck...

Simply because you've never heard of it does not mean it didn't happen. Yeah, it happened.
50 posted on 03/17/2014 7:59:12 AM PDT by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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