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Theory: Terrorists kidnapped Zaharie's wife and kids, coercing him to steal the plane
March 17, 2014 | CivilWarBrewing

Posted on 03/17/2014 10:14:57 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing

Well, what do you think, FReepers? I know the speculation is exhaustive but I've not seen nor heard any information regarding MH-370 pilot Zaharaie Shah's wife and children other than them reportedly moving out one day prior to the day of the flight. I think this could be a key clue in the plane's disappearance, hence my theory.

Wouldn't photos and video of his wife be plastered throughout the media?.. and interviews? Where's the interviews?


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: iran; malaysia; mh370; pilot; waronterror; zaharie
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Comments? My theory is just as good as any.
1 posted on 03/17/2014 10:14:57 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Easy to debunk. Just find the wife and kids. Are you sure they are actually missing?


2 posted on 03/17/2014 10:16:31 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon

You would think the media would be trying to get some quotes from the family, so far I have seen none.


3 posted on 03/17/2014 10:18:31 AM PDT by MRadtke (Light a candle or curse the darkness?)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Theory. Armed US satellite can fry electronics from space. A message was being sent to China and Russia to knock off the expansionism talk.


4 posted on 03/17/2014 10:18:56 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Insurgent Conservative)
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To: Viennacon

Looks like they moved on their own. This pilot would be my main suspect.


5 posted on 03/17/2014 10:19:40 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: Viennacon
Easy to debunk. Just find the wife and kids. Are you sure they are actually missing?

I wondered the same thing when I first heard the family moved out the day before the flight. Where do they say the husband/Dad went? But there is nothing I have found so far that indicates that anyone has seen or spoken to the family, only that the house was searched.

6 posted on 03/17/2014 10:19:41 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (My whimsical litany of satyric prose and avarice pontification of wisdom demonstrates my concinnity.)
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To: Viennacon

I have heard nada about where they went. Has anyone? The lack of this news is odd. I give this new option some cred.


7 posted on 03/17/2014 10:19:44 AM PDT by corkoman
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To: CivilWarBrewing
Better theory is that somebody wants those 20 Malaysian computer experts who were on that plane or wants whatever info he can torture out of them.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2508735/pg1

8 posted on 03/17/2014 10:21:46 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: corkoman

It is easy to understand that the family would want to avoid the news media at this time, so you would expect them to go into hiding.

However, the news media should be sitting on their front steps waiting for them to appear.

The fact that they are not would seem to mean that they don’t know where they are.

A very interesting question.


9 posted on 03/17/2014 10:24:41 AM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Somebody knows the truth, and they aren’t telling it.


10 posted on 03/17/2014 10:26:08 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: CivilWarBrewing

There are three possible scenarios..because the plane did NOT crash..no one flies a plane deliberately at 5,000 feet trying to be undetectable to radar for NO reason..so its three choices..either the plane was taken for the plane itself, the plane was hijacked because they wanted someone ON the plane, or the plane was hijacked for the contents of the cargo hold..that would be the least of the theories that makes sense since really, what could be so important in the cargo hold that it would be worth all of this


11 posted on 03/17/2014 10:27:29 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Viennacon
The word 'missing' is sometimes used, but generally no details whatsoever on her having moved out.

Here is a YouTube tribute video posted by his niece or nephew but not his wife or one of his three kids:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi8DIaqBnW4

At the end of the video he is referred to as "Uncle Ari".

12 posted on 03/17/2014 10:27:30 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: varmintman

At what were they expert?

In this day and age, there are thousands of computer experts, only a few of which know anything worth this activity.

And how many of those are Malaysians?


13 posted on 03/17/2014 10:28:25 AM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: corkoman

Ive read that they were divorced or in the process of one and that the family owned more than one house. Who knows? Given that it took a week for Malay authorities to even search the pilot’s house, I have no hope of hearing from the wife anytime soon.


14 posted on 03/17/2014 10:28:53 AM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Some reports said that the pilot had already devorced and was just living with the wife and three kids, then she ultimately moved out the day before the flight.

I was curious if the pilot had invested his retirement in Malaysian Airline stock, you know these plans where an employee buys two shares and gets one free. (Remember he’s a flying enthusiast, might he put all his eggs there?). If he had invested he’s seen the stock price lose 92% in five years. Retirement gone.

Add to that his political hero getting convicted of sodomy the day before the flight.

All that might equal the pilot having a mental breakdown.


15 posted on 03/17/2014 10:29:14 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: dfwgator

“Somebody knows the truth, and they aren’t telling it.”
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The Truth Is Out There


16 posted on 03/17/2014 10:29:19 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Sarah Barracuda
Search Google for "gold in cargo hold". LOL It never stops. My theory suggests the pilot stole the aircraft under duress because he was blackmailed/coerced into doing so by the kidnappers of his wife and kids.

His wife and kids 'moving out' one day prior is a big clue, no?

17 posted on 03/17/2014 10:31:14 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: old curmudgeon

The expertise in question involved computer chips used in US weapon systems, as I read it...


18 posted on 03/17/2014 10:34:03 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: House Atreides

I’m also weighing new evidence that the “Alright, goodnight” sign-off is the co-pilot’s voice, not the pilots. I suppose that’s not unusual though..


19 posted on 03/17/2014 10:37:00 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: varmintman

Electronic warfare semiconductors, to be precise. A valuable bunch.


20 posted on 03/17/2014 10:38:02 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: CivilWarBrewing
The news is somewhat lacking...

Moved out or were removed by six guys in a van....that looked like....wait for it....Muzzies!!!

21 posted on 03/17/2014 10:38:32 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: CivilWarBrewing

I heard yesterday that supposed rumor about the family moving out isn’t true, but who knows anything at this point..since Im not familiar with cargo holds, would the pilots know in advance what is in those cargo holds?


22 posted on 03/17/2014 10:42:08 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: varmintman

Do those chips contain any secret information or are they just chips...like memory chips?

Was the IBM VP working on military contracts?


23 posted on 03/17/2014 10:42:32 AM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: CivilWarBrewing

I dont know anything about this, but I doubt that these employees had any access to information on secret US military weapons.

I suspect that making chips and knowing how they are used is something else.

I know our government is totally incompetent in many ways, but turning vital security information over to Malaysians who are on their way to China?

Why don’t we just give them the football?


24 posted on 03/17/2014 10:53:56 AM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: old curmudgeon
I don't know any more than the article on GLP...

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2508735/pg1

25 posted on 03/17/2014 10:55:00 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: varmintman
Wow, that article was like smelling salts. Very compelling. Hadn't occurred to me just how valuable a 'score' that lot of employees would be. The flight was headed to China, but maybe China decided to acquire those employees 'off the books'.

The plot thickens.. There are 2 Ukrainians and 1 Russian aboard. Oh how Putin would also love to steal those employees from the U.S. Suddenly, landing in Kazakhstan isn't such a far-fetched possibility.

26 posted on 03/17/2014 11:06:38 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: CivilWarBrewing
Here is what I found.

Family of missing Malaysia plane's captain moved out of home day before flight left

A maid at Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah's house in upmarket Kuala Lumpur suburb said that his wife and three children were staying at their second home when the plane disappeared.

Their home in Malaysia's capital is just 15 miles from the airport.

27 posted on 03/17/2014 11:10:33 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I just messed up my tagline. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Various details seem suspicious, but so did details about Richard Jewel until it was established that he was innocent. For all we know, the pilot’s wife and child went to visit relatives, perhaps precisely because he was going to be away.


28 posted on 03/17/2014 11:10:53 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: CivilWarBrewing

I certainly think it’s a possibility. If the pilot was going about his normal day, why would the wife take the kids and disappear?


29 posted on 03/17/2014 11:13:24 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Chewbarkah
My thread is silly. Now I'm wondering if the batch of 20 FreeScale employees accounts for why the aircraft was stolen. That would be a huge coup for Putin, and there's 2 Ukrainians and 1 Russian on board. These 3 plus 20 U.S. defense-sensitive employees all going to China. WTF.

Maybe Snowden wasn't a big enough gift from Barry to Putin?

30 posted on 03/17/2014 11:14:53 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: old curmudgeon
Why don’t we just give them the football?

With the zer0 crowd we (actually they) may have.

31 posted on 03/17/2014 11:19:39 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: UCANSEE2; All

Did anyone every tell us what the text message was to the wife from the pilot after MH370 was airborn?


32 posted on 03/17/2014 11:21:31 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: MRadtke
You would think the media would be trying to get some quotes from the family

Don't forget that the "media" in Malaysia is run by the state, very much in the business of disinformation and coverups.

33 posted on 03/17/2014 11:22:11 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: CivilWarBrewing
My thread is silly.

No it isn't ... This was on the table at FR a week or more ago.

34 posted on 03/17/2014 11:22:53 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Veto!

I’m still somewhat at a loss that China has been pretty quiet through all this, given that most of the passengers were Chinese.


35 posted on 03/17/2014 11:23:40 AM PDT by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Whoever did it, and for whatever reasons - the plane is in the ocean.


36 posted on 03/17/2014 11:24:10 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Veto!

OK, but there should be a lot of foreign media there as well. They must be salivating at the chance to get a “first”.


37 posted on 03/17/2014 11:25:57 AM PDT by MRadtke (Light a candle or curse the darkness?)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Theory. Armed US satellite can fry electronics from space. A message was being sent to China and Russia to knock off the expansionism talk.

Really? You think Obama is that tough???


38 posted on 03/17/2014 11:26:04 AM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: nascarnation
I’m still somewhat at a loss that China has been pretty quiet through all this, given that most of the passengers were Chinese.

They haven't been. Its just that the US media feels its not important, so you don't hear about it. China is increasingly upset with Malaysia's handling of it, and the two have been exchanging diplomatic barbs. In the Chinese blogosphere, regular citizens are really venting their anger with Malaysia. China allows it, because it is patriotic, and makes the Chinese Gov't look good by comparison.

39 posted on 03/17/2014 11:26:40 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: nascarnation

Yes, interesting that the Chinese are silent. But then, it’s the Chinese way; they can be very subtle and very effective.

I’d like to know what they know.


40 posted on 03/17/2014 11:27:53 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Check post #9 on this thread———a fascinating theory.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3134178/posts

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41 posted on 03/17/2014 11:28:20 AM PDT by Mears
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To: PGR88

Interesting, thanks for the info.


42 posted on 03/17/2014 11:28:30 AM PDT by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: old curmudgeon

There were four of the scientists that shared numerous patents with one other not on the plane. From several posts yesterday patents included technology to create stealth air planes. Make them disappear. My question as to whether this could be done from one of their lap tops was pretty much ignored
Question is still in the back of my mind. We’re the learned passages playing with the planes controls ?


43 posted on 03/17/2014 11:30:20 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

***There are three possible scenarios..because the plane did NOT crash...***

Indeed. No evidence yet of a crash or soft landing. Nothing to confirm what sequence of events was set in motion - or why. All the ‘evidence’ so far is data - i.e. speed, time in the air, altitude, pings, dysfunctions and one last voice contact.

While this incident has the appearance of a deliberate act of malfeasance - what if it was a collection of stupid mistakes by the captain and his rookie co-pilot??? Some clumsy behavior in the cockpit that caused some mishandling of the equipment - misunderstanding of instructions etc., subsequent corrective panic and actions that failed????


44 posted on 03/17/2014 11:33:53 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers.)
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To: old curmudgeon

Ever hear of the Lippo Group? Maybe this whole thing was a good old fashioned case of Arkancide.


45 posted on 03/17/2014 11:33:53 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: PGR88

They must’ve practiced the fine art of crashing a 777 into the ocean without leaving a trace, then. It could be buried in Himalayan snow too, I suppose.


46 posted on 03/17/2014 11:34:58 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: CivilWarBrewing

I said this the other day when I pointed out that for several days now they’ve just reported that the wife and children moved out. No indications that they are missing or that they don’t know where they are or that they moved out of country or what. So yea, I believe the possibility exists until proven otherwise.

Out of this whole long narrative and feigned astonishment about the even they can only say: “His wife and children moved out the day before”. That’s it. That’s all I’ve seen.

It’s classic “The dog that didn’t bark”.


47 posted on 03/17/2014 11:35:41 AM PDT by Usagi_yo (Standardization is an Evolutionary dead end.)
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To: Usagi_yo

And it’s also interesting that his nieces or nephew made a tribute video to him (Zaharie), but not his kids. The video refers to him as “Uncle Ali”.


48 posted on 03/17/2014 11:39:57 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Usagi_yo

It’s classic “The dog that didn’t bark”.

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I have noticed that.


49 posted on 03/17/2014 11:41:23 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: lacrew

That’s another sound question: Who was on this flight that Hillary needed silenced.


50 posted on 03/17/2014 11:43:30 AM PDT by Fireone (Impeach and imprison, NOW! Treason and murder are still crimes.)
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