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Mozilla abandons Firefox Windows 8.1 Metro app due to lack of interest
The Inquirer ^ | 03/17/2014 | By Chris Merriman

Posted on 03/17/2014 12:27:50 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

SOFTWARE DEVELOPER Mozilla has announced that it has abandoned a version of its Firefox web browser for Microsoft's Modern, or Metro, Windows 8.1 user interface. Although the Firefox web browser for Windows 8.1 Metro has been two years in the making, and in spite of a public beta released last month, Mozilla has decided not to release that version of Firefox, with Windows 8.1 users invited to continue to use the desktop edition.

In a blog post on Friday, Firefox VP Johnathan Nightingale cited apathy as one of the driving factors, explaining, "On any given day we have, for instance, millions of people testing pre-release versions of Firefox desktop, but we've never seen more than 1,000 active daily users in the Metro environment." He said that it is important for the company to "pick our battles".

The development of Firefox Metro has been beset by problems, which explains its lengthy gestation period, and Mozilla believes that its resources are best put to use in further development of the desktop edition and that releasing a final version of Firefox Metro would be "a mistake".

This news is a mixed blessing for Microsoft. While the removal of a major competitor and the limitations of Chrome in the Metro environment make Internet Explorer the only game in town, the withdrawal also represents another indictment of the Metro, er, Modern user interface.

With an upcoming update to Windows 8.1 including a move back towards the traditional Windows desktop environment and Windows 9 expected to complete the backpedalling, Mozilla has very little to fear about the impact this decision will have on its user base.

However, Microsoft is fast being forced to recognise that the Windows 8 Metro, or Modern, user interface will likely become history best forgotten along with Windows Vista and Windows ME.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: firefox; mozilla; windows81

1 posted on 03/17/2014 12:27:50 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Being in the business for years now I can say that Metro is the ugliest UI layer I have every seen. I keep seeing all these phone/web apps that are going to the plain, flat back and white as well, just plain ugly.


2 posted on 03/17/2014 12:36:07 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative
They saw how America voted in 2008 and decided to dumb-it-down, I suppose. It makes the Commodore 64 look modern.


3 posted on 03/17/2014 12:39:12 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yowser! The Metro/whatever stuff was integrated so badly, am not surprised M$ is walking it back. It was an interface only a child could love. There are no adults up at M$ anymore, and it shows in their shoddy products and documentation.

Thanks for the info.


4 posted on 03/17/2014 12:41:13 PM PDT by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I presume this implies a full-screen app, with no window frame border possible, & no ability to resize it to something smaller that full-screen - like others of its ilk. In short, dumb as dirt & horribly annoying on a non-hand-held device. I’d ditch it too. In fact, I wouldn’t have wasted money on it in the first place. Better a more capable app that can be resized as desired.


5 posted on 03/17/2014 12:59:41 PM PDT by MCH
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To: F15Eagle

6 posted on 03/17/2014 1:07:32 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I just messed up my tagline. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: F15Eagle

But it works so well on the Xbox. /s


7 posted on 03/17/2014 1:11:18 PM PDT by yuleeyahoo (Liberty is not collective, it is personal. All liberty is individual liberty. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah because people really wanted to use a browser that wasnt available to download in the Windows Store, and from all accounts, was buggy as hell.

But the best way to sweep that under the rug is to just blame Windows 8. There are plenty of people whose job it is to have a meltdown over anything Win8 that will rush in and cover for you.


8 posted on 03/17/2014 1:13:33 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t use any metro apps myself so I can see them making this decision.


9 posted on 03/17/2014 1:17:54 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: DonaldC

I don’t like using touch. It’s so easy to mistype and mis-touch if you have fat fingers like I do.


10 posted on 03/17/2014 1:21:41 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (question is this)
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To: SeekAndFind

Unfortunately, my computer is Windows 8.1 and I am using FF latest version BUT I have had so many pop up ads using FF even though I have it set up to not get these. It is soooo annoying.

When I used IE version 11, I don’t get these pop-ups.


11 posted on 03/17/2014 1:22:43 PM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: SeekAndFind

With Microsoft discontinuing support of XP and XP being limited to Direct X 9.0 (which causes graphic driver glitches for modern cards), I have migrated my XP machines to Win 7 64-bit Pro and couldn’t be happier. On top of that I can run XP as a virtual machine if I need older apps that are incompatible with Win 7. I have ran several of these machines for a few years to a few months and have yet to see a BSOD.

Simply follow the rule of getting every other operating system from Microsoft and you will be good. After the disaster of Windows ME we got XP, after VISTA we got 7, after 8 we will get something decent. Why these guys follow this pattern and can’t seem to learn from their own history would make for an interesting case study for a business class.


12 posted on 03/17/2014 1:33:06 PM PDT by Gen-X-Dad
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To: SeekAndFind

What’s the funding model for Mozilla?

My recurring observation re OSS is that people will do free work insofar as it’s rewarding somehow, but there’s always a significant percentage of work which nobody wants to do (boring, hard, few users, no appreciation) without money. Gotta wonder if that’s a big part of pulling FF development on Metro: development for that platform just isn’t rewarding enough without $$$, so nobody wants to build anything interesting enough for anyone else to want to use?


13 posted on 03/17/2014 1:35:53 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: hsmomx3
Install Ghostery. No more pop ups.

I am using Waterfox (64 bit Firefox) and like it. My backup browser is Comodo Dragon. Installed Ghostery on both.

14 posted on 03/17/2014 1:35:58 PM PDT by Abby4116
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To: UCANSEE2

What the heck is that?


15 posted on 03/17/2014 1:47:05 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Screw the farmers. I can get everything I need at the grocery store.)
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To: SeekAndFind

First thing I do when I log in is blow by that silly interface and go right to my trusty old desktop anyway.


16 posted on 03/17/2014 2:03:09 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

Get over it. You sound like a bunch of luddites. It’s not for everyone just yet but I find it very useful in the tablet format and on a desktop touch tech monitor. The current presentation of tiles isn’t always the prettiest but pretty is for your car and trophy wife, not business use. Mozilla can pull their metro app, it wasn’t done that well anyway. I can always go to the desktop and use a regular FF icon, if I find a need to use FF. The metro look will morph into something more appealing for those who care about looks over usability (apple users) and after a while no one will question it anymore.

I heard the same themes and bitching when PCs went from DOS to Windows. Even today there are some I work with who believe that development and using apps is best done completely from the DOS prompt.


17 posted on 03/17/2014 2:25:10 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: RJS1950

Classic shell works fine on 8.0, and its free.

It was however written by a Russian.


18 posted on 03/17/2014 3:01:39 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: Gen-X-Dad

They sell you a good product, then sell you a bad product, so you’ll buy the next good product.

This is not an accident, IMHO. It is the pattern of Windows.


19 posted on 03/17/2014 3:06:58 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: hsmomx3

I’m using FF on Win 8.1 now and I don’t get any popups, most of the time. A few here and there, slip by.


20 posted on 03/17/2014 3:08:22 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: F15Eagle

I get them here and on most other sites I frequent! I don’t have malware or a virus on my system but these ads are driving me crazy!


21 posted on 03/17/2014 4:08:24 PM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: hsmomx3

You probably have the Trojan Horse that can come from CNET - I had it. Install MalwareBytes (free) to remove it. You’ll have to do it twice. It hides under a couple of names - you have to delete it twice under Control Panel.

I’m done with CNET — they have to know they’re passing on Trojan Horses. If you see ads at the top or bottom of FreeRepublic, you HAVE the Trojan Horse.


22 posted on 03/17/2014 5:36:31 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: UCANSEE2

the 1996 compuserve or aol main screen looks almost identical to the 8.1 metro boxes. just awful.


23 posted on 03/17/2014 6:07:55 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: NonValueAdded

From the movie IDIOCRACY.


24 posted on 03/17/2014 9:11:19 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I just messed up my tagline. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Well... it’s all about appeal to the lowest common denominator.


25 posted on 03/17/2014 9:20:05 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I just messed up my tagline. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: F15Eagle; hsmomx3
Install MalwareBytes (free) to remove it.

And I can download it from CNET Download.com, right ?

: )

26 posted on 03/17/2014 9:25:14 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I just messed up my tagline. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: F15Eagle

I didn’t install malware bytes from cnet. I installed it from the malware bytes home page a year ago.


27 posted on 03/17/2014 10:54:19 PM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: UCANSEE2

lol

It was Wise Registry Cleaner, BTW, from CNET that is packaged with the Trojan Horse. No telling how many others are, too.


28 posted on 03/17/2014 11:48:11 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: hsmomx3

If you’re seeing ads on FR, you have the Trojan Horse.


29 posted on 03/17/2014 11:48:44 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: SeekAndFind

METRO is good for touch devices but is useless on laptops and computers. My Windows 8.1 laptop has a program I installed that bypasses METRO TILES.....I never see them or want them. With this installed program I get the Windows desktop and start button back

I have never once used a METRO app


30 posted on 03/18/2014 12:26:42 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: F15Eagle

So after running malware bytes for the entire hard drive, and running my AV everyday, nothing shows up. Now what? Thanks.


31 posted on 03/18/2014 4:24:01 AM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: hsmomx3

Do you see ads when you’re on FR at the top or bottom of threads?


32 posted on 03/18/2014 9:49:46 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: F15Eagle

They just pop up the lower right hand corner of my screen or if there is a picture in the comments which I do not click on, ads appear. I have run malware bytes as well as my anti-virus.


33 posted on 03/18/2014 11:47:40 AM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: hsmomx3

I think you’ve got the Trojan.

You’ll have to go to Control Panel to delete it. You should see a software package you don’t recognize and then have to uninstall. Run MB for full scan and reboot.

Then it will likely show up in Control Panel again (software) under a new name. Repeat the above process.


34 posted on 03/18/2014 10:50:57 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: F15Eagle

Already done that type of a search and there is nothing on there of this nature. Thanks.


35 posted on 03/19/2014 4:42:22 AM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: F15Eagle

I think I may have come across something...Web Protect for Windows.....I have no idea what that is. My OS is Win 8.1


36 posted on 03/19/2014 4:50:31 AM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: SeekAndFind

I am using a Windows phone now. I prefer the UI to the iPhone and Android. (The UI also works great on a touch screen laptop.) One-handed use is actually possible, and the “pin” system is great. Additionally, a Nokia Windows phone is inexpensive.

It doesn’t have a million apps, but I only use a handful anyway.


37 posted on 03/19/2014 4:53:47 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: F15Eagle; All

A HUGE thank you everybody. I found Web Protect for Windows on my programs list and did some research. I removed it and restarted my computer and am running malware bytes again. This seems to have been the culprit.


38 posted on 03/19/2014 5:17:09 AM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: hsmomx3

good


39 posted on 03/19/2014 10:43:26 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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