Skip to comments.(Malay) Cops find five Indian Ocean practice runways in MH370 pilotís simulator, BH reports
Posted on 03/18/2014 4:17:37 AM PDT by wtd
Cops find five Indian Ocean practice runways in MH370 pilots simulator, BH reports
Investigators have discovered the runways of five airports near the Indian Ocean loaded into Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shahs home-made flight simulator, a Malay daily reported today.
The simulation programmes are based on runways at the Male International Airport in Maldives, an airport owned by the United States (Diego Garcia), and three other runways in India and Sri Lanka, all have runway lengths of 1,000 metres.
We are not discounting the possibility that the plane landed on a runway that might not be heavily monitored, in addition to the theories that the plane landed on sea, in the hills, or in an open space, the source was quoted as saying.
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Once again, common for flight geeks.
That would definitely not be Diego Garcia.
Wow, he must have bought a cheap simulator, I not only have those, I have 35,500 more around the world in my $49 simulator from Microsoft. I can’t believe they are pursuing this angle. I bet they are going to find a paring knife in his kitchen next. Oh golly gee!!!
His flight sim is MS X, so he does too. Sensationalism at its finest.
Thought they said he had a blown simulator? Whatever that actually means.
There is what looks like a somewhat remote paved runway of 7500’ on the north east coast of Sri Lanka.
The runway spans a small section of land from water to water and there are several petrol storage tanks very close to it. Would be a great place to land, refuel and take off again in the wee hours of a Sunday morning. Mindful that the Islamic Sabbath is on Friday, it would amount to something happening early in the morning on our Tuesday.
Full blown would be more like it. It actually mimicked the layout of his seat on the 777. Complete with a touchscreen of the center controls console. It was quite elaborate.
It might have been a hijacking by the co-pilot, but just having some runways in his simulator is not definite proof of intention.
Lots of serious pilots have these simulator set ups and practice going to new airports that they haven’t been to.
I have a friend who flies for UPS and he plays with landing and taking off from the toughest strips he can find. He says one of the toughest is in India. One end of the strip is a cliff and the other is a mountainside.
Add to the touchscreen controls of the upper panel as well.
There’s so much ‘information’ out there that it is hard to keep track of what has been confirmed and what is hearsay. From the article, it states that it was a ‘home made’ flight simulator. What does that mean? Does this mean he was using commercial software on a rigged up computer system he put together, or does it mean that he had his own software? (I apologize ahead of time if this is explained somewhere, and I neglected to read it).
If it was commercial flight simulator software, is there a way to know what runways he was concentrating on when he used it?
As well planned as this seems to be , would he have left this information on his home device for all to see?
How often did we read that here on FR!
Not discounting your friends looking to advance their skills but how many have setup like this one? How many think there is a need for them to be landing at Diego-Garcia if they are not a US Reservist pilot?
I can see all of the other places if there was a destination point for the airlines, which there is at the Int’l airport on the SE cost of Sri Lanka. I would be most interested to know what the other sites were before making any accusations either pro or con.
It is just too easy to just start blaming the pilot when all other possibilities are evaporating as time marches on.
Its not 1965, and this isn’t Thunderball.
Hiding a 777 would be a trick. Any active runway would have human intelligence identifying the Malay 777 within hours of it being reported missing. Innactive runways rarely have hangars capable of holding a 777, so hiding it from satellite imagery would be a real trick.
The few inactive runways that do have such hangars would be quickly scrutinized.
The only way a 777 gets hidden from the world is if their is a state player involved.
1000 meters isn’t nearly enough runway for a 777. What good is a flight Sim without practice runways? Who would even write this? They should kill themselves to relieve our misery.
That sounds like a metaphor for life.
An earlier article had a picture, it was a commercial game (Microsoft Flight Simulator X) running on what appeared to be a pretty high end computer system complete with multiple large screen monitors, with flight yoke and foot controllers (gaming, not from a real aircraft). Lot’s of folks who enjoy flight sims have rigs like this. I am no expert on computer forensics, so not sure about the last question. You can set up custom flights in game that are saved, and any normal save games would be recorded so you could at least find out that much.
Wahhabis (Taliban religious doctrine inspired by Saudi Wahhabism) are headquartered in Kattankudy, East Sri Lanka. This is the route from their headquarters to that air strip at Petroleum Junction: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Kattankudy,+Sri+Lanka/Petroleum+Junction,+Sri+Lankaemail@example.com,81.4564628,100386m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x3ae5331e2f99b853:0x82d52f9481a1211d!2m2!1d81.728499!2d7.675046!1m5!1m1!1s0x3afba2cee9feb6c5:0x7cc81dd53e4196a8!2m2!1d81.192682!2d8.552313
Exactly. Very early on, in the terror scenarios tossed about, a hypothetical Kamikaze attack on facilities there, it was assumed such a "big bogie" failing to answer demands to identify itself would be "splashed," probably before it came within a specific range.
The interesting question was whether the powers would own up, and how soon, and if a delay in owning up would effect a later decision in owning up... the longer the wait, etc.
It seemed likely, but a lot of the particulars ranged from the sensitive to the tin-foil-hat, and events moved on.
Of course, one reason for not owning up would be serving the interests of actors in the region whose purpose might have been to determine such information, even if DG is officially dormant.
Sounds like a diversion; better for the searchers to look at all the runways capable of handling a 777 to see if anything came in there.
1000 meters is 3300 feet. That’s an extremely short strip for a 777 from what I’ve read. It would be a roach motel for that plane. It could land, but it couldn’t take off.
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Wonder how big a city is near that airfield; how many would’ve seen it?
Here’s the satellite image using mazda’s coordinates.
US officials are now coming out and publicly stating that the Malaysians have from the beginning been putting out false information to mislead searchers.
Nothing that comes from Malaysia can be trusted including what was supposedly on this pilot’s computer.
Tinfoil hat on again. Here’s what happened:
The Captain was supposed to divert the cargo of Irish Whiskey to a St Patrick’s Day Bash on the Beach at Jack Gilligan’s private island in the Maldives, complete with airstrip, beach cabins, and hot escorts from Russia and Thailand. All comms were to be cut off to avoid party crashers.
So look for Gilligan’s Island, a 777 hidden under palm trees, and a bunch of drunken Asian businessmen and crew who don’t want to leave. The passenger list includes Ginger, Mary Ann and a professor.
Fits better than most I’ve seen. Either there or Shangri-La in Tibet’s Kunlun Mountains. But that was too snowy in March.
I was getting worried when my kid downloaded this “Fly Omar to Kandahar” game from a Pakistani website and didn’t realize he was in control of an actual aircraft. Fried the computer, too.
With all those theories of the plane crashing or landing, how come no one in the whole world has reported any sightings? @flyingwithfish
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@Pas0974 Land at night in a remote area or an area with military aircraft , no one knows the difference, they are used to seeing planes
“Mindful that the Islamic Sabbath is on Friday...”
The Muzzies don’t have a sabbath on Friday. It’s a prayer day, not a rest day for them.
"With contradictory statements and backtracking by Malaysian authorities involved in the search for the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370, pilots and other aviation officials are asking if there is a conflict of interest on the part of Putrajaya in leading the probe into the disappearance of the aircraft. The Sydney Morning Herald (SMH) reported that chatter on the Professional Pilots Rumour Network have raised the possibility that the inconsistencies were a result of Putrajaya's efforts to "save face" as evidence point to possible pilot complicity in the disappearance of the aircraft more than 10 days ago. Several pilots have in fact called for the US authorities to take over the investigation, the report said.
Who had the simulator? The young guy or the older guy?
Those might be alternate landing sites for ETOPS purposes.
ETOPS is an acronym for Extended range Twin Operations as re-defined by the US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) in 2007.
It refers to flight times between diversion airfields, regardless as to whether such fields are separated by water or land. In aviation vernacular, the colloquial backronym is “Engines Turning Or Passengers Swimming,” referring to the inevitable emergency water landing of a twin engine aircraft after a double engine failure over water outside gliding range of land.
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I have flown with thousands of pilots- many who fly mostly international destinations. I have NEVER heard of anyone having a full blown mock up in their home. EVER.
This guy is it. He is who they need to be looking for and get his family and torture them until they talk.
It's possible he was just practicing to improve his flight skills.
It's also possible he was running a covert flight school for terrorists, and was training people who might be needed to help him fly the plane. We don't know yet.
That is one important takeaway. Another is skepticism over ALL the media reports as each one races to be first.
Way too elaborate for anyone to pass up with this disappearance of MH370....could very well be a really nice home based flight sim setup for good uses or used to plan out something bad using this flight(MH370). We do not know, yet if ever...
It’s fairly common. Friend on IRC flies for Delta, says he has one and so do quite a few of his co-workers. Not all are equally nice, but quite a few are. Also says being absolutely sky-mad is very common among pilots...it’s their job, it’s their hobby, it’s their life.