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(Malay) Cops find five Indian Ocean practice runways in MH370 pilotís simulator, BH reports
MalaysiaToday ^ | March 18, 2014 | BH

Posted on 03/18/2014 4:17:37 AM PDT by wtd

Cops find five Indian Ocean practice runways in MH370 pilot’s simulator, BH reports

Investigators have discovered the runways of five airports near the Indian Ocean loaded into Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah’s home-made flight simulator, a Malay daily reported today.

“The simulation programmes are based on runways at the Male International Airport in Maldives, an airport owned by the United States (Diego Garcia), and three other runways in India and Sri Lanka, all have runway lengths of 1,000 metres.

“We are not discounting the possibility that the plane landed on a runway that might not be heavily monitored, in addition to the theories that the plane landed on sea, in the hills, or in an open space,” the source was quoted as saying.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: conspiracy; flight; iran; malaysia; mh370; missing; waronterror
Interesting development may explain why US ship withdraws from search for Malaysia jet
1 posted on 03/18/2014 4:17:37 AM PDT by wtd
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To: wtd

Once again, common for flight geeks.


2 posted on 03/18/2014 4:21:01 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: wtd
We are not discounting the possibility that the plane landed on a runway that might not be heavily monitored

Heh.
That would definitely not be Diego Garcia.

3 posted on 03/18/2014 4:25:11 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: wtd

Wow, he must have bought a cheap simulator, I not only have those, I have 35,500 more around the world in my $49 simulator from Microsoft. I can’t believe they are pursuing this angle. I bet they are going to find a paring knife in his kitchen next. Oh golly gee!!!


4 posted on 03/18/2014 4:37:35 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ("There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - Thomas Jeffersony")
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

His flight sim is MS X, so he does too. Sensationalism at its finest.


5 posted on 03/18/2014 4:40:10 AM PDT by LambSlave
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

Thought they said he had a blown simulator? Whatever that actually means.


6 posted on 03/18/2014 4:41:21 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Obama lied; our healthcare died.)
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To: cripplecreek

There is what looks like a somewhat remote paved runway of 7500’ on the north east coast of Sri Lanka.
8°32’20.87”N
81°10’54.36”E

The runway spans a small section of land from water to water and there are several petrol storage tanks very close to it. Would be a great place to land, refuel and take off again in the wee hours of a Sunday morning. Mindful that the Islamic Sabbath is on Friday, it would amount to something happening early in the morning on our Tuesday.


7 posted on 03/18/2014 4:41:27 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Full blown would be more like it. It actually mimicked the layout of his seat on the 777. Complete with a touchscreen of the center controls console. It was quite elaborate.


8 posted on 03/18/2014 4:43:42 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: HereInTheHeartland

9 posted on 03/18/2014 4:52:23 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: wtd
I would not think it odd for a pilot to spend time familiarizing himself with landing areas which he might someday need to land at, either routinely or in an emergency.

It might have been a hijacking by the co-pilot, but just having some runways in his simulator is not definite proof of intention.

10 posted on 03/18/2014 4:54:24 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: LambSlave

Lots of serious pilots have these simulator set ups and practice going to new airports that they haven’t been to.

I have a friend who flies for UPS and he plays with landing and taking off from the toughest strips he can find. He says one of the toughest is in India. One end of the strip is a cliff and the other is a mountainside.


11 posted on 03/18/2014 4:57:27 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Add to the touchscreen controls of the upper panel as well.


12 posted on 03/18/2014 5:01:09 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: LambSlave

There’s so much ‘information’ out there that it is hard to keep track of what has been confirmed and what is hearsay. From the article, it states that it was a ‘home made’ flight simulator. What does that mean? Does this mean he was using commercial software on a rigged up computer system he put together, or does it mean that he had his own software? (I apologize ahead of time if this is explained somewhere, and I neglected to read it).

If it was commercial flight simulator software, is there a way to know what runways he was concentrating on when he used it?


13 posted on 03/18/2014 5:01:19 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: wtd; maggief; WildHighlander57; crosslink

As well planned as this seems to be , would he have left this information on his home device for all to see?


14 posted on 03/18/2014 5:01:36 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: cripplecreek

How often did we read that here on FR!


15 posted on 03/18/2014 5:04:14 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: cripplecreek

Not discounting your friends looking to advance their skills but how many have setup like this one? How many think there is a need for them to be landing at Diego-Garcia if they are not a US Reservist pilot?

I can see all of the other places if there was a destination point for the airlines, which there is at the Int’l airport on the SE cost of Sri Lanka. I would be most interested to know what the other sites were before making any accusations either pro or con.

It is just too easy to just start blaming the pilot when all other possibilities are evaporating as time marches on.


16 posted on 03/18/2014 5:08:04 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: wtd

Its not 1965, and this isn’t Thunderball.

Hiding a 777 would be a trick. Any active runway would have human intelligence identifying the Malay 777 within hours of it being reported missing. Innactive runways rarely have hangars capable of holding a 777, so hiding it from satellite imagery would be a real trick.

The few inactive runways that do have such hangars would be quickly scrutinized.

The only way a 777 gets hidden from the world is if their is a state player involved.


17 posted on 03/18/2014 5:08:34 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: wtd

1000 meters isn’t nearly enough runway for a 777. What good is a flight Sim without practice runways? Who would even write this? They should kill themselves to relieve our misery.


18 posted on 03/18/2014 5:16:51 AM PDT by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: cripplecreek
Exactly. My husband's flight simulator would show his quirky side of landing large aircraft on small fields. This sounds like a nothing burger.
19 posted on 03/18/2014 5:22:43 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: cripplecreek

That sounds like a metaphor for life.


20 posted on 03/18/2014 5:32:39 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

An earlier article had a picture, it was a commercial game (Microsoft Flight Simulator X) running on what appeared to be a pretty high end computer system complete with multiple large screen monitors, with flight yoke and foot controllers (gaming, not from a real aircraft). Lot’s of folks who enjoy flight sims have rigs like this. I am no expert on computer forensics, so not sure about the last question. You can set up custom flights in game that are saved, and any normal save games would be recorded so you could at least find out that much.


21 posted on 03/18/2014 5:34:58 AM PDT by LambSlave
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To: mazda77

Wahhabis (Taliban religious doctrine inspired by Saudi Wahhabism) are headquartered in Kattankudy, East Sri Lanka. This is the route from their headquarters to that air strip at Petroleum Junction: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Kattankudy,+Sri+Lanka/Petroleum+Junction,+Sri+Lanka/@7.7581186,81.4564628,100386m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x3ae5331e2f99b853:0x82d52f9481a1211d!2m2!1d81.728499!2d7.675046!1m5!1m1!1s0x3afba2cee9feb6c5:0x7cc81dd53e4196a8!2m2!1d81.192682!2d8.552313


22 posted on 03/18/2014 5:47:40 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: grobdriver
That would definitely not be Diego Garcia.

Exactly. Very early on, in the terror scenarios tossed about, a hypothetical Kamikaze attack on facilities there, it was assumed such a "big bogie" failing to answer demands to identify itself would be "splashed," probably before it came within a specific range.

The interesting question was whether the powers would own up, and how soon, and if a delay in owning up would effect a later decision in owning up... the longer the wait, etc.

It seemed likely, but a lot of the particulars ranged from the sensitive to the tin-foil-hat, and events moved on.

Of course, one reason for not owning up would be serving the interests of actors in the region whose purpose might have been to determine such information, even if DG is officially dormant.

23 posted on 03/18/2014 6:00:06 AM PDT by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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To: hoosiermama; wtd; maggief; crosslink

Sounds like a diversion; better for the searchers to look at all the runways capable of handling a 777 to see if anything came in there.


24 posted on 03/18/2014 6:10:11 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: wtd

1000 meters is 3300 feet. That’s an extremely short strip for a 777 from what I’ve read. It would be a roach motel for that plane. It could land, but it couldn’t take off.


25 posted on 03/18/2014 6:12:40 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: jacknhoo; hoosiermama; maggief; crosslink; Black Agnes; LucyT

Thanks jacknhoo!

Ping to this post!

Wonder how big a city is near that airfield; how many would’ve seen it?


26 posted on 03/18/2014 6:15:36 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: WildHighlander57; mazda77; hoosiermama

Here’s the satellite image using mazda’s coordinates.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/8°32’20.9%22N+81°10’54.4%22E/@8.5458585,81.1897808,721m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0


27 posted on 03/18/2014 6:36:43 AM PDT by maggief
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To: wtd

US officials are now coming out and publicly stating that the Malaysians have from the beginning been putting out false information to mislead searchers.

Nothing that comes from Malaysia can be trusted including what was supposedly on this pilot’s computer.


28 posted on 03/18/2014 6:37:24 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: wtd

Tinfoil hat on again. Here’s what happened:
The Captain was supposed to divert the cargo of Irish Whiskey to a St Patrick’s Day Bash on the Beach at Jack Gilligan’s private island in the Maldives, complete with airstrip, beach cabins, and hot escorts from Russia and Thailand. All comms were to be cut off to avoid party crashers.

So look for Gilligan’s Island, a 777 hidden under palm trees, and a bunch of drunken Asian businessmen and crew who don’t want to leave. The passenger list includes Ginger, Mary Ann and a professor.


29 posted on 03/18/2014 6:40:58 AM PDT by Rainier1789 (My Constitution has a 2nd and 10th Amendment)
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To: Rainier1789
Finally a plausible scenario.
30 posted on 03/18/2014 6:47:33 AM PDT by Pan_Yan (Who told you that you were naked? Genesis 3:11)
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To: Pan_Yan

Fits better than most I’ve seen. Either there or Shangri-La in Tibet’s Kunlun Mountains. But that was too snowy in March.
I was getting worried when my kid downloaded this “Fly Omar to Kandahar” game from a Pakistani website and didn’t realize he was in control of an actual aircraft. Fried the computer, too.


31 posted on 03/18/2014 7:01:53 AM PDT by Rainier1789 (My Constitution has a 2nd and 10th Amendment)
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To: WildHighlander57; hoosiermama

Interesting comment.

With all those theories of the plane crashing or landing, how come no one in the whole world has reported any sightings? @flyingwithfish

Flying With Fish@flyingwithfish 11m
@Pas0974 Land at night in a remote area or an area with military aircraft , no one knows the difference, they are used to seeing planes


32 posted on 03/18/2014 7:27:11 AM PDT by maggief
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To: mazda77

“Mindful that the Islamic Sabbath is on Friday...”

The Muzzies don’t have a sabbath on Friday. It’s a prayer day, not a rest day for them.


33 posted on 03/18/2014 7:58:05 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Uncle Chip
Link, please. I have read reports which state a loss of confidence like: Questions over Putrajaya’s conflict of interest in search for missing flight MH370
"With contradictory statements and backtracking by Malaysian authorities involved in the search for the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370, pilots and other aviation officials are asking if there is a conflict of interest on the part of Putrajaya in leading the probe into the disappearance of the aircraft. The Sydney Morning Herald (SMH) reported that chatter on the Professional Pilots Rumour Network have raised the possibility that the inconsistencies were a result of Putrajaya's efforts to "save face" as evidence point to possible pilot complicity in the disappearance of the aircraft more than 10 days ago. Several pilots have in fact called for the US authorities to take over the investigation, the report said.

34 posted on 03/18/2014 7:59:01 AM PDT by wtd
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To: wtd

Who had the simulator? The young guy or the older guy?


35 posted on 03/18/2014 8:00:48 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Tastes like Heaven, Burns like Hell! Mmmmmm. What is it?)
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To: PapaBear3625

Those might be alternate landing sites for ETOPS purposes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETOPS
ETOPS is an acronym for Extended range Twin Operations[1] as re-defined by the US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) in 2007.

It refers to flight times between diversion airfields, regardless as to whether such fields are separated by water or land. In aviation vernacular, the colloquial backronym is “Engines Turning Or Passengers Swimming,” referring to the inevitable emergency water landing of a twin engine aircraft after a double engine failure over water outside gliding range of land.


36 posted on 03/18/2014 8:00:52 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

SUMMARY PROVIDED BY MEMBER [ rcair1 ]
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/6026788


37 posted on 03/18/2014 8:03:21 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: PapaBear3625

I have flown with thousands of pilots- many who fly mostly international destinations. I have NEVER heard of anyone having a full blown mock up in their home. EVER.

This guy is it. He is who they need to be looking for and get his family and torture them until they talk.


38 posted on 03/18/2014 8:13:36 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: US_MilitaryRules
The captain with 30 + years flying experience built his flight simulator to replicate the 777-200. link
39 posted on 03/18/2014 8:15:10 AM PDT by wtd
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To: Cowgirl of Justice
I have flown with thousands of pilots- many who fly mostly international destinations. I have NEVER heard of anyone having a full blown mock up in their home. EVER.

It's possible he was just practicing to improve his flight skills.

It's also possible he was running a covert flight school for terrorists, and was training people who might be needed to help him fly the plane. We don't know yet.

40 posted on 03/18/2014 8:26:02 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Uncle Chip
Nothing that comes from Malaysia can be trusted including what was supposedly on this pilot’s computer.

That is one important takeaway. Another is skepticism over ALL the media reports as each one races to be first.

41 posted on 03/18/2014 8:35:01 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: mazda77

Way too elaborate for anyone to pass up with this disappearance of MH370....could very well be a really nice home based flight sim setup for good uses or used to plan out something bad using this flight(MH370). We do not know, yet if ever...


42 posted on 03/18/2014 4:55:58 PM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: grobdriver

Heh-heh.


43 posted on 03/18/2014 5:14:15 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: mazda77

It’s fairly common. Friend on IRC flies for Delta, says he has one and so do quite a few of his co-workers. Not all are equally nice, but quite a few are. Also says being absolutely sky-mad is very common among pilots...it’s their job, it’s their hobby, it’s their life.


44 posted on 03/18/2014 10:31:58 PM PDT by Fire_on_High (RIP City of Heroes and Paragon Studios, victim of the Obamaconomy.)
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