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Retired 777 Pilot Calls the Show (Rush Limbaugh)
RushLimbaugh.com ^ | 3-18-2014 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 03/18/2014 12:18:38 PM PDT by servo1969

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Photo of the actual missing aircraft taken as it flew over Poland on February 5, 2014.

1 posted on 03/18/2014 12:18:38 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969
If he took it into the Bay of Bengal or somewhere in the Indian Ocean going about six, 700 knots vertical, just like Flight 93, the pieces of the airplane would be the size of your thumb.

I would love love to see evidence for THAT assertion.

2 posted on 03/18/2014 12:30:15 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: servo1969
Well, the flight attendants can get in the cockpit. They have a way to access it. I won't give it out over the air.
Oh, great. Now we'll have every jihadist in the world trying to figure that out.
3 posted on 03/18/2014 12:31:27 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: servo1969

Thanks for posting this conversation.

I’m going to accept the captain’s explanations and stop obsessing about what happened to MH370.


4 posted on 03/18/2014 12:31:39 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: oh8eleven

The crew up front still has veto authority. That’s why he didn’t feel it was too sensitive to mention.


5 posted on 03/18/2014 12:38:05 PM PDT by zipper ("The Second Amendment IS my carry permit!" -- Ted Nugent)
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To: servo1969

It’s good to finally dispense with the phony idea of everyone dying at 45,000 feet ... LOL ...


6 posted on 03/18/2014 12:40:48 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Veto!

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7 posted on 03/18/2014 12:44:55 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: servo1969

Someone correct me if I have this wrong, but from what I’ve heard, his statement about “The flight path climbed up precipitously to 45,000 feet, stalled, and then dove down to 25,000 feet ‘til it was recovered” is based on interpolation from primary radar returns only. If the transponder was still on and these altitudes were actually reported via Mode C transponder, then I withdraw any disagreement. But if the captain is basing his comments on data taken from primary radar returns only then it’s extremely flimsy evidence because primary surveillance radar (PSR) only provides distance and bearing information - not elevation.

The source of this data has been given as “China and the US” which, since we don’t have any airports over there, I take to mean China and the “US Military”, which also has more sophisticated radar systems that can provide more precise information (PAR) for ground controlled approaches (GCA). But these radars have a range of 10-20 miles and are used to allow ground controllers to guide approaching aircraft onto a carrier, and it’s implausible to think that one would happen to be looking 5 to 8 miles staight up at exactly the right time.


8 posted on 03/18/2014 12:45:00 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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If he took it into the Bay of Bengal or somewhere in the Indian Ocean going about six, 700 knots vertical, just like Flight 93, the pieces of the airplane would be the size of your thumb.
I would love love to see evidence for THAT assertion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkZoY7c_Bo4

9 posted on 03/18/2014 12:45:22 PM PDT by fso301
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To: don-o
I would love love to see evidence for THAT assertion.

IIRC, the valujet crash into the Everglades left only the engines in any size or form. 10 feet under the swamp was limestone, and the plane just disappeared. I dont think they ever found much, if any human remains.

Valu Jet crash into the everglades

10 posted on 03/18/2014 12:45:56 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: don-o
I would love love to see evidence for THAT assertion.

IIRC, the valujet crash into the Everglades left only the engines in any size or form. 10 feet under the swamp was limestone, and the plane just disappeared. I dont think they ever found much, if any human remains.

Valu Jet crash into the everglades

11 posted on 03/18/2014 12:46:03 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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RUSH: Folks, this is classic of what I've been talking about. I mean, this is all over the media: you go to 45,000 feet and the passengers die. The only way you could do that is if you guys in the cockpit depressurize the cabin, right?...Exactly, Rush - that's what at least some of us holding to the 45000 foot theory say - not your straw man argument that they would be automatically killed, but that someone in the cockpit deliberately cut off their oxygen to subdue them, which would have been more effective at 45000 feet than at 35000 cruising altitude - Rush then went on to talk about there being "no evidence" that this happened, and ironically a bit later mentioned Sherlock Holmes in relation to trying to solve the mystery - too bad he didn't recall Sherlock's most famous case about the dog that didn't bark - in this case we have the passengers who didn't protest - the supposed flight path of the plane has it making an about face turn and then flying back over water and then land for about an hour - how is it possible in all this time not one passenger got on a cell or air to ground phone to try to communicate with someone about something - reception might have been impossible over the water, but surely not entirely absent while it was still over land for about an hour - I'm still with those who think this plane is down on land somewhere.....
12 posted on 03/18/2014 12:48:35 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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So there’s a huge solid wall out in the ocean for a plane to obliterate on? Who knew?


13 posted on 03/18/2014 12:49:34 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Veto!
Good. Another plausible. I am a little tired of the arm chair experts and their constant yapping about things they know nothing about. It's almost comical how everyone has a theory (even some plausible ones), but almost everyone's theory is based upon bad information on flying airplanes.

Oooo, the pilots turned off the transponder. There are plausible reasons, only one of which is nefarious.

Oooo, the aircraft climbed to 45000, above the service ceiling. There are plausible reasons, one of which is not nefarious: they actually didn't. One of the reason for a transponder is to display altitude. No transponder, no known altitude because radar cannot estimate not altitude well.

Oooo, no distress call. Several plausible reasons, and only one indicates that someone was doing something wrong with the aircraft.

Personally, I favor the flight deck fire theory, or the crew theft theory, but at least I know what I am talking about even if I don't know what actually happened to MH 370.
14 posted on 03/18/2014 12:51:15 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: servo1969

We’re in the aviation business and my husband knows a United Airlines chief pilot who found himself next to a muslim co-pilot who was in the cockpit complaining about the US government. The chief pilot refused to leave his seat - not even to go to the bathroom.

What the hell is United doing hiring such people????


15 posted on 03/18/2014 12:51:18 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: oh8eleven

Jihadists already know how. And, they also know it can be immediately disabled by the pilots and lock even the F/As out.


16 posted on 03/18/2014 12:53:06 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: oh8eleven
Well, the flight attendants can get in the cockpit. They have a way to access it. I won't give it out over the air.

It's probably a doggie door -- so you don't have to worry about the Muslims using it.

17 posted on 03/18/2014 12:53:37 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: bigbob

You are absolute correct. The altitude thing is getting way too much attention. It is likely bogus, or at least inaccurate.


18 posted on 03/18/2014 12:54:13 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: servo1969

I stated in another thread that ‘I’m done with this distraction’.

Lunch break: Couldn’t resist reading this and stopped at the following...

...burn through the pressure hull...

That thought escaped me. It debunks the fire in the nosewheel theory (depressurization). The climb to 45k is a preposterous reaction to that scenario.

I go back to my prior comment ‘done with this’...I’m just too busy to play guessing-game when we’re being restricted to the information they want to give us. I say declare the flight ‘lost’ (insofar as the surviving relatives go) and hopefully those with ‘access’ will figure it out in due time.


19 posted on 03/18/2014 1:00:09 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: Aria

“What the hell is United doing hiring such people????”

==

Lawsuits.

Discrimination.

Blah,blah,blah!

Is this a great country,or what?

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20 posted on 03/18/2014 1:00:18 PM PDT by Mears
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