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'Waves' detected on Titan moon’s lakes
BBC ^ | March 18, 2014 | Paul Rincon

Posted on 03/18/2014 1:25:36 PM PDT by don-o

Scientists believe they have detected the first liquid waves on the surface of another world.

The signature of isolated ripples was observed in a sea called Punga Mare on the surface of Saturn's moon Titan.

However, these seas are filled not with water, but with hydrocarbons like methane and ethane.

These exist in their liquid state on Titan, where the surface temperature averages about -180C.

Planetary scientist Jason Barnes discussed details of his findings at the 45th Lunar and Planetary Science Conference (LPSC) in Texas this week. Continue reading the main story “Start Quote

We think we've found the first waves outside the Earth”

Dr Jason Barnes University of Idaho

Titan is a strange, looking-glass version of Earth with a substantial atmosphere and a seasonal cycle. Wind and rain shape the surface to form river channels, seas, dunes and shorelines.

But much of what's familiar is also turned sideways: the moon's mountains and dune fields are made of ice, rather than rock or sand, and liquid hydrocarbons take up many of the roles played by water on Earth.

The vast majority of Titan's lakes and seas are concentrated around the north polar region. Just one of these bodies of liquid - Ligeia Mare - is estimated to contain about 9,000 cubic km of mostly liquid methane, equating to about 40 times the proven reserves of oil and gas on Earth.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: panspermia; pungamare; saturn; titan; xplanets
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1 posted on 03/18/2014 1:25:36 PM PDT by don-o
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping


2 posted on 03/18/2014 1:29:08 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: don-o; deks

Way down by the Methane Sea.


3 posted on 03/18/2014 1:29:34 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: don-o

Kowabunga


4 posted on 03/18/2014 1:30:56 PM PDT by al baby (Hi MomÂ… I was refereeing to Obama)
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To: don-o

It would be very cool to see.


5 posted on 03/18/2014 1:32:29 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Army Air Corps

Maybe because the Malaysian Airlines 777 crashed into it?


6 posted on 03/18/2014 1:34:27 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: bigdaddy45

nah, it’s cuz of gorebal warming and stuff!


7 posted on 03/18/2014 1:35:32 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: don-o

How did dinosaurs get on Titan?


8 posted on 03/18/2014 1:36:32 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: bigdaddy45

You beat me to it.


9 posted on 03/18/2014 1:37:12 PM PDT by Defiant (Let the Tea Party win, and we will declare peace on the American people and go home.)
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To: don-o

10 posted on 03/18/2014 1:37:20 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: MUDDOG

11 posted on 03/18/2014 1:37:51 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Do I really need ot use the sarcasm tag?)
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To: Zathras

indeed.


12 posted on 03/18/2014 1:38:26 PM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: Zathras
How did dinosaurs get on Titan?

They built spaceships about 65 million years ago and hauled ass from here, silly.

13 posted on 03/18/2014 1:39:12 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert......Nuff said.)
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To: don-o

14 posted on 03/18/2014 1:40:52 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: al baby

Surf’s up, dude!


15 posted on 03/18/2014 1:43:33 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: don-o

Probably not drinkable...


16 posted on 03/18/2014 1:44:05 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: don-o
However, these seas are filled not with water, but with hydrocarbons like methane and ethane.

They must have had lots of dinosaurs and pre-historic plant life to create all those hydrocarbons....

17 posted on 03/18/2014 1:44:41 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I never read that one, but it sounds good in wikipedia review. Saw that Jerry Garcia liked it, too.


18 posted on 03/18/2014 1:46:16 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: don-o

Don’t tell the EPA...


19 posted on 03/18/2014 1:47:30 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: don-o
Titan is a strange, looking-glass version of Earth with a substantial atmosphere and a seasonal cycle. Wind and rain shape the surface to form river channels, seas, dunes and shorelines.

Well there most certainly must be life there!/s

20 posted on 03/18/2014 1:47:41 PM PDT by mountainlion
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To: al baby
"All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine."
21 posted on 03/18/2014 1:49:33 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: varmintman

Wouldn’t want to mix it with even a poor scotch.


22 posted on 03/18/2014 1:49:34 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Army Air Corps

So...smoking on this planet is probably a bad idea?


23 posted on 03/18/2014 1:50:37 PM PDT by jimjohn (You don't get the kind of government you want, or the kind you need. You get the kind you deserve.)
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To: jimjohn
Is there any free O2?
24 posted on 03/18/2014 1:51:13 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: cripplecreek

“It would be very cool to see.”

See? Yes. Smell? The moon’s gotta smell like a giant fart!


25 posted on 03/18/2014 1:52:48 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: don-o

No ethanol?

I don’t want to go then...

Find me the moon that tastes like a good 18 year Oban or even a 15 year Macallan and I’ll finance the journey myself.


26 posted on 03/18/2014 1:54:38 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tre Norner eg ber, binde til rota...)
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To: PGR88

In an environment without oxygen, methane and ethane (depending on the ratio of atoms) are the lowest energy combinations for that material. Here on earth, with sufficient oxygen, water and CO2 are the lowest energy combinations.

Entropy exists in Chemistry, not just heat, motion, etc. The 2nd law of Thermodynamics is not limited to the earth.


27 posted on 03/18/2014 1:55:48 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: jimjohn
So...smoking on this planet is probably a bad idea?

No problem. It isn't going to burn without oxygen.

28 posted on 03/18/2014 1:56:19 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: jimjohn

Go with the eCig...


29 posted on 03/18/2014 1:57:04 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: jimjohn
So...smoking on this planet is probably a bad idea?

The cases that enclose the big electric generators used in utility power plants are filled with pure hydrogen.

30 posted on 03/18/2014 2:15:28 PM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: don-o

This lake sounds like a great vacation destination for certain political hacks currently afflicting and embarrassing us in washtoon, DC. Maybe we can send them up there?


31 posted on 03/18/2014 2:27:38 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("H)
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To: Zathras
How did dinosaurs get on Titan?

It is amazing how much scientists know about everything that goes on (when it comes to Fossil Fuels). I was reading an article today about how the Universe at the point of the Big Bang started from something smaller than an electron and "Voila' the whole Universe". This is from scientists who don't seem to have a problem with the scientific principle behind this.

32 posted on 03/18/2014 2:46:37 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: MUDDOG

Yeah...it is good. It doesn’t compare to “Slapstick” but it is worth the read.


33 posted on 03/18/2014 3:01:21 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Do I really need ot use the sarcasm tag?)
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To: don-o

Wait I thought that methane was caused by rotting vegetation, dino’s, organic matter????

Could it be that crude oil will just keep showing up no matter how hard we try to harvest it all?


34 posted on 03/18/2014 3:07:38 PM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
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To: don-o

methane supply is unlimited. Let’s build a methane engine and exploit Titan. Shipping costs will be high.


35 posted on 03/18/2014 3:09:35 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (2014: The Year of DEAD RINOS)
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To: don-o
Blame it on the

Sirens of Titan (Al Stewart)

36 posted on 03/18/2014 3:10:06 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Army Air Corps; KevinDavis; annie laurie; Knitting A Conundrum; Viking2002; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
Thanks Army Air Corps.
 
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37 posted on 03/18/2014 7:00:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: DariusBane
Methane is a far cry from the long-chain and complex hydrocarbons found in crude oil.

In an environment like Titan without sufficient oxygen, methane, ethane and the like are the lowest energy states for the atoms of carbon and hydrogen. Ethane and the like will be the result depending upon the ratio of carbon to hydrogen.

It would be like surprised there was water and carbon dioxide on earth.

38 posted on 03/19/2014 4:59:56 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

Ah. Thank you.


39 posted on 03/19/2014 5:43:06 AM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
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