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As others mark World War One centenary, Germans prefer to forget
Reuters ^ | march 19, 2014 | Erik Kirschbaum

Posted on 03/20/2014 6:18:09 AM PDT by C19fan

A simple plaque marks the forsaken spot where the Red Baron was buried in central Berlin but hardly anyone stops to remember the flying ace shot down in 1918. For Germans, the Great War holds so little interest.

The centenary of the outbreak of World War One has caught Germany off guard, while Britain, France, the United States and others mark it with battlefield tours, television programs, exhibitions and plans for ceremonies on the day, in August.

Germans aren't sure how, or even if, they should commemorate a war that cost them 13 percent of their territory, all their colonies, huge reparations and 2.5 million lives. The government is under fire for its inactivity.

"Most Germans don't want to have anything to do with the militaristic past," said Stefan Scheybal, a mason who tends graves at the Invalids' cemetery where Manfred von Richthofen was buried, a plot of land now bisected by a busy cycle path.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: germany; great; war; wwi
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1 posted on 03/20/2014 6:18:09 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

The most important war in modern history.


2 posted on 03/20/2014 6:20:41 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: C19fan

No one’s asking what Austria’s plans are?


3 posted on 03/20/2014 6:21:05 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: SeeSharp

One from which Europe never recovered.


4 posted on 03/20/2014 6:22:32 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: SeeSharp

Agreed. This war delivered the death blow to Western Civilization, which has been a terminal case ever since.


5 posted on 03/20/2014 6:23:59 AM PDT by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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To: C19fan

Even to this day we’re dealing with the blowback from WW I and how the borders were redrawn afterward.


6 posted on 03/20/2014 6:25:49 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
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To: C19fan
The end of the Great War showed how primitive and unsophisticated the so-called "sophisticated Euros" were. Instead of re-building Germany into a Parliamentary Republic that would be an anti-Bolshevik bulwark against Lenin and Stalin, France and England wanted payback.

France and England's method of peace lasted barely 20 years. The peace of the "unsophisticated" Americans lasted over 60 years.

7 posted on 03/20/2014 6:25:50 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Nothing is more savage and brutal than justifiably angry Americans. Don’t believe me? Ask the Germa)
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To: wideawake

What would Austria celebrate? Going from the capital of Central Europe producing geniuses like Mahler, Klint, and Freud to a city that now serves more as a living museum living off the fumes of the past; think of Colonial Williamsburg writ large.


8 posted on 03/20/2014 6:25:54 AM PDT by C19fan
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Ah yes, the Treaty of Versailles—punishment. That is always such a successful strategy, isn’t it? (rhetorical)


9 posted on 03/20/2014 6:27:15 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: MuttTheHoople
Isn't payback the way so many people go? It's un-Christian but feels good, for a while at least.
10 posted on 03/20/2014 6:28:30 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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Wow. Was just watching a movie about the Red Barron the other day. Very interesting chap, apparently. Still a mystery how he died.


11 posted on 03/20/2014 6:28:39 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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I guess the Austrians live off the reputation of their delicious pastries.


12 posted on 03/20/2014 6:29:15 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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A mere prelude to what they'll be trying to forget when centennial anniversaries of WWII arrive in 25 years.

IMHO, the real problem is that they'll succeed in sweeping it under the rug. Nobody gives a hoot about history anymore...but our modern culture is obsessed with Miley Cyrus and the Kardashians.

13 posted on 03/20/2014 6:32:43 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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WW I was the beginning of the end of European culture. The genetic losses of 1914-45 can never be replaced. Migrants from Africa and the Mideast are forever transforming Europe.


14 posted on 03/20/2014 6:33:01 AM PDT by allendale
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Ah yes, the Treaty of Versailles—punishment. That is always such a successful strategy, isn’t it? (rhetorical)

We did the same to Russia, at the end of the Cold War, and now the chickens are coming home to roost.

15 posted on 03/20/2014 6:33:11 AM PDT by dfwgator
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"Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it."

............................................George Santayana

16 posted on 03/20/2014 6:34:31 AM PDT by ken5050 (I fear a world run by adults who were never spanked as kids and got trophies just for participating)
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It isn’t about payback, it’s about winning the war. By rebuilding and re-arming Germany after WW II, we helped turn them into a peaceful Parliamentary Republic (maybe too peaceful...now that we’ve shown them how to live at peace with their neighbors, I wouldn’t mind seeing them show some fight against possible threats from Russia).


17 posted on 03/20/2014 6:38:16 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Nothing is more savage and brutal than justifiably angry Americans. Don’t believe me? Ask the Germa)
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To: allendale

When you replace 18 million Jews with 20 million Muslims, expect mayhem to ensue.


18 posted on 03/20/2014 6:39:04 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Nothing is more savage and brutal than justifiably angry Americans. Don’t believe me? Ask the Germa)
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In fairness, both Britain and France paid a heavy price in men and materials. America’s level of sacrifice didn’t even come close to matching theirs. No wonder they were angry, and their populations could not have brooked to lenient a treaty.

France had also gotten a rough deal out of the 1871 Treaty of Frankfurt, in which they lost Alscace-Lorraine, and their idea was to break Germany so it could never threaten France again. Understandable really, although as we know, things didn’t work out that way. The allies might also have taken a much more punitive attitude towards Germany after WWII (remember that they completely disbanded the German armed forces after that war, which didn’t happen after WWI), but they also faced the threat of Communism from the Soviet Union, so it was particularly important not to drive the Germans into the arms of the Soviets. The Germans of that period were predisposed towards extremist ideologies, and Communism was the other side of the coin to Nazism.


19 posted on 03/20/2014 6:39:14 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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Killing 10,000 men a day, every day, for 4+ years will do that.

It curdles the marrow of my bones just reading that.


20 posted on 03/20/2014 6:42:33 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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