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Ouch! Manchester United draw Champions League holders Bayern Munich in quarter-finals
mancunianmatters.co.uk ^ | 21 Mar 2014 | Tom Pilcher

Posted on 03/21/2014 5:03:43 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

Manchester United were dealt arguably the toughest draw in the Champions League quarter-finals when they were picked to play holders and five-times European top dogs Bayern Munich.

Bayern, with former Barcelona coach Pep Guardiola at the helm, are tearing up the Bundesliga with a current advantage of 23 points over second and are looking to become the first team to defend their Champions League crown.

By contrast three-times European champions United are down in uncharted waters at seventh in the league table, 18 points adrift of leaders Chelsea who drew Paris St Germain in the last eight of Europe's top club competition.

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1 posted on 03/21/2014 5:03:43 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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Bayern chief to serve jail term as prosecutors veto appeal

Berlin — German prosecutors said Monday they won't appeal the tax fraud verdict against football legend Uli Hoeness, former boss of powerhouse Bayern Munich, freeing the way for his jail term to begin.

Hoeness, 62, who spent four decades at the champion club, will in coming weeks start a three-and-a-half-year prison sentence handed down by a court last Thursday, which he has also said he will not contest.

The Bayern chief is currently due to serve his term in Landsberg prison in southern Bavaria state, prosecution spokesman Ken Heidenreich told AFP.

That is the jail where Adolf Hitler wrote "Mein Kampf" while serving a sentence for treason after the failed 1923 Beer Hall Putsch uprising in Munich.

2 posted on 03/21/2014 5:06:05 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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Bayern Munich could become the earliest champion in Bundesliga history

Viva Viva FC Bayern

3 posted on 03/21/2014 5:10:34 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

To win the CL, Man U was likely going to have to get through any 3 of Bayern, Real Madrid, PSG, Chelsea, Barcelona, or Altetico Madrid - it’s not like there was an “easy” road for them in any event.

Much like Chelsea a couple of years ago, Man U has to win the CL or face not only not qualifying for the CL next year, but they’re not in good position for the Europa League, even. Unlike that Chelsea squad, I don’t think they’re deep enough or have gelled as a squad to pull it off.

I’ll take Bayern 6-2 Man U, Chelsea 3-1 PSG, Real Madrid 5-0 Dortmund, and Alteltico Madrid 3-3 (away) Barcelona.


4 posted on 03/21/2014 5:15:48 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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Yeah, Man U shouldn’t even be where it is now, given their performances this season.


5 posted on 03/21/2014 5:17:09 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: kevkrom

Not sure PSG will roll over for Chelsea.


6 posted on 03/21/2014 5:18:42 AM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: 1rudeboy

On the other hand, with the likes of Rooney and Van Persie, they are still a dangerous opponent, as we saw this week. Their problem is that they’re capable of beating just about anyone at any time, but that they can’t do it consistently enough this year.


7 posted on 03/21/2014 5:19:32 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: Natufian

Not saying they’re going to roll over, I just don’t see how they’re going to score enough. Chelsea’s defense should be scaring everybody right now. (Their offense, on the other hand...)


8 posted on 03/21/2014 5:20:20 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Hoeness, 62, who spent four decades at the champion club, will in coming weeks start a three-and-a-half-year prison sentence handed down by a court last Thursday, which he has also said he will not contest.

The Bayern chief is currently due to serve his term in Landsberg prison in southern Bavaria state, prosecution spokesman Ken Heidenreich told AFP.

I have heard that they were going to build an extra high-security cell just for him, right in the Allianz-Arena, with a good view of the field


9 posted on 03/21/2014 5:23:29 AM PDT by cartan
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Any thoughts on the Bayern striker Green who recently said he wanted to play for the U.S. national team? I don't get to see Bayern play.
10 posted on 03/21/2014 5:28:42 AM PDT by bramps (Go West America!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Putting aside Herr Hoeness' legal issues for a moment, I've always been amazed how Bayern is managed (extremely successfully) largely by guys who are former players - and great players at that.

I think generally (but not always) great players don't make great coaches/GMs/execs. But Bayern's front office always seems to have several.

11 posted on 03/21/2014 5:32:27 AM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Munich eliminated Arsenal first and probably will Man Yoo.

Still, for those who don’t know, Bayern Munich’s President was convicted of tax evasion. http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1748670/bayern-munich-president-uli-hoeness-found-guilty-tax-evasion-trial?cc=5901 Sentenced to 3 and a half years in prison.

It kind of puts hardship in perspective for Red Devil fans which I’m certainly not.


12 posted on 03/21/2014 11:10:19 AM PDT by BeadCounter (morning glory evening grace)
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To: Berlin_Freeper; dfwgator

Sorry, didn’t see your post anyway, MUFC has lost to Bayern Munich two times in recent years under Sir Alex. So, there’s not much to expect here, Moyes may have them playing the matches of their careers.


13 posted on 03/21/2014 11:12:26 AM PDT by BeadCounter (morning glory evening grace)
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Maybe they can bring back Solskaer and Sheringham.


14 posted on 03/21/2014 11:13:44 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 1rudeboy
Yeah, Man U shouldn’t even be where it is now, given their performances this season.

Chelsea won it a few years ago, even though they finished out of the Top 4. Spurs fans were not happy.

15 posted on 03/21/2014 11:14:56 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Two bandwagon teams or as they say in England, ‘plastics’, big teams make the sport nonetheless, Cowboys in the NFL, Yankees in baseball.


16 posted on 03/21/2014 11:15:00 AM PDT by BeadCounter (morning glory evening grace)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I think Atletico will beat Barcelona.

Could we have an All-Madrid Final?


17 posted on 03/21/2014 11:18:01 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Berlin_Freeper

No Van Persie.

As they say, “Slim and None....and Slim just left town.”


18 posted on 03/21/2014 11:19:45 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Well, perhaps that United/Bayern tie will finally get David Moyes fired.

Arguably the worst choice to manage a major European club in the last twenty years.


19 posted on 03/21/2014 11:19:53 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: dfwgator; All

I put my predictions in #4... let’s see everyone else’s!


20 posted on 03/21/2014 11:19:59 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: kevkrom

Bayern, PSG, Real, Atletico


21 posted on 03/21/2014 11:20:49 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Bayern 6-1 United
Chelsea 2-1 PSG
Real Madrid 4-4 Dortmund (on penalties. This will be a much better tie than everyone thinks.)
Barcelona 5-3 Atletico


22 posted on 03/21/2014 11:22:15 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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Arguably the worst choice to manage a major European club in the last twenty years.

As an Everton fan, I am taking great joy in this.

23 posted on 03/21/2014 11:23:20 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Colonel_Flagg

I will say my “2” for Man U assumes Van Persie is available. Haven’t heard an update on his injury yet. Without him, they’ll be lucky to get 1 in two matches.


24 posted on 03/21/2014 11:24:26 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Briefly changing sports....DOWN GOES DUKE!


25 posted on 03/21/2014 11:25:32 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: kevkrom

Bayern/PSG/Atletico/Real


26 posted on 03/21/2014 11:25:50 AM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: dfwgator
DOWN GOES DUKE!

Sweet! Makes my weekend start off great!

27 posted on 03/21/2014 11:26:07 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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I agree. And with Mata cup-tied, there would be no one to play the number ten role occupied this week by Rooney, which is the only way United looks the least bit dangerous in the final third.


28 posted on 03/21/2014 11:26:47 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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Understandable. They call him “Dithering Dave” for a reason.


29 posted on 03/21/2014 11:27:51 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

BTW, over on Twitter, excellent trolling job by @FoxSoccer:

Europe’s best clubs, plus Manchester United, drawn into captivating Champions League quarterfinals, by @LeanderOnFOX foxs.pt/1oFzvLu


30 posted on 03/21/2014 11:31:28 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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LOL

That hurts. I’ve been a United guy for about 25 years now. But it’s still funny.


31 posted on 03/21/2014 11:32:41 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: kevkrom

Ouch. Van Persie out 4-6 weeks.


32 posted on 03/21/2014 11:34:05 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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Source: http://foxs.pt/1r6Y2vo


33 posted on 03/21/2014 11:36:20 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

The @FoxSoccer feed is definitely run by someone with a sense of humor. Back in the fall, when there was an NFL game in London, they posted a score update from Wembley where some team called the “49ers” scored a goal... seven of them, actually, if the score line could be believed.

I love that kind of dry, tongue-in-cheek stuff.


34 posted on 03/21/2014 11:41:34 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: 1rudeboy

van Persie is out for about a month or more which might kill MU’s momentum coming off that come-from-behind victory (Aggregate).


35 posted on 03/21/2014 11:43:19 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: kevkrom

The old FSC/FSN did a great job differentiating itself from the Fox NFL coverage. They understand social media too.


36 posted on 03/21/2014 11:43:40 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: kevkrom

Beat me to that one


37 posted on 03/21/2014 11:44:27 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

The only thing keeping Moyes from (figuratively) slitting his wrists right now is that if MU manages to even keep things reasonably competitive against Bayern without RVP, he might parlay that into keeping his job a while longer. Whereas a sold beating wen fielding a generally healthy squad might mean an early summer vacation.


38 posted on 03/21/2014 11:50:19 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Fergie didn’t exactly do all that great his first few years.

Frankly, I don’t know even with Fergie if they would have been much better this year.

The problem is United got themselves into debt up to their eyeballs and they are getting old.


39 posted on 03/21/2014 11:50:39 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Re: Duke - Score another one for a Twitter post, this time from Amazon: https://twitter.com/amazon/status/447076798094778368


40 posted on 03/21/2014 11:54:47 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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I see two things when I look at Moyes’ United:

1) 19th Century tactics (hoof it to the byline, cross, and hope)
2) Players who don’t buy in. It’s just that simple. Watching them get beat by Liverpool last week, I saw a team that tuned out the first time things went bad. Alex Ferguson would NEVER have allowed that. He’d have changed out the entire team. Too often, they don’t play for Moyes, old men or not.


41 posted on 03/21/2014 11:56:04 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Yeah, I remember seeing Chelsea mail in performance like that earlier this year, back in the fall. I swear I wouldn’t have been surprised to see Mourinho start an entirely different 11 for the next match, and if he had to have submitted the lineup right then, I imagine he would have.


42 posted on 03/21/2014 11:58:26 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: dfwgator

SAF excelled at getting more out of his players than any British manager since Bill Shankly, in my view. He was an elite man-manager and there’s no way this team would be seventh in the Premiership if he were managing it. They might not win it but they wouldn’t be 18 points adrift.

I said from the beginning that Jose Mourinho should have gotten the United job and everyone knows he wanted it. If you don’t have the firepower up front you need a backbone and tactical knowledge, both things that Mourinho possesses in spades.


43 posted on 03/21/2014 11:58:35 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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SAF excelled at getting more out of his players than any British manager since Bill Shankly

You mean since Brian Clough.

44 posted on 03/21/2014 12:01:03 PM PDT by dfwgator
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Clough would be another one.

My favorite Shankly quote: “Take that bandage off. And what do you mean YOUR knee? It’s Liverpool’s knee!”


45 posted on 03/21/2014 12:21:29 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

I thought “The Damned United” badly misrepresented Clough.


46 posted on 03/21/2014 12:24:04 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Colonel_Flagg

I wonder if say next year if the team gets off to a poor start, does Fergie come back?


47 posted on 03/21/2014 12:25:57 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Berlin_Freeper
David Moyes heckled by Grim Reaper
48 posted on 03/22/2014 2:12:12 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (No More Bushes, No More Clintons, No more Pauls!)
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Wayne Rooney calls on Manchester United to rediscover their attacking ‘DNA’
49 posted on 03/22/2014 2:15:39 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (No More Bushes, No More Clintons, No more Pauls!)
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Robin Van Persie hat-trick fires Manchester United to Champions League comeback over Olympiakos

Manchester United blow as Robin van Persie ruled out for 4-6 weeks

50 posted on 03/22/2014 2:19:07 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (No More Bushes, No More Clintons, No more Pauls!)
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