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Noah: Film Review
Hollywood Reporter ^ | March 20, 2014 | Todd McCarthy

Posted on 03/21/2014 5:57:38 AM PDT by C19fan

Darren Aronofsky wrestles one of scripture's most primal stories to the ground and extracts something vital and audacious, while also pushing some aggressive environmentalism, in Noah. Whereas for a century most Hollywood filmmakers have tread carefully and respectfully when tackling biblical topics in big-budget epics aimed at a mass audience, Aronofsky has been daring, digging deep to develop a bold interpretation of a tale which, in the original, offers a lot of room for speculation and invention. The narrative of the global flood that wiped out almost all earthly life is the original disaster story, one that's embraced by most of the major world religions, which means that conservative and literal-minded elements of all faiths who make it their business to be offended by untraditional renditions of holy texts will find plenty to fulminate about here. Already banned in some Middle Eastern countries, Noah will rile some for the complete omission of the name “God” from the dialogue, others for its numerous dramatic fabrications and still more for its heavy-handed ecological doomsday messages, which unmistakably mark it as a product of its time.

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TOPICS: Religion; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: crowe; gaiaisnotmygod; hollywood; hollywoodvalues; movie; moviereview; noah; revisionisthistory; thenogodgod
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Yeap confirmation that except for having Noah, an ark, and animals it has nothing to do with the Biblical story.
1 posted on 03/21/2014 5:57:38 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan
Noah will rile some for the complete omission of the name “God” from the dialogue, others for its numerous dramatic fabrications and still more for its heavy-handed ecological doomsday messages

As expected.
2 posted on 03/21/2014 6:00:03 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: C19fan
...for the complete omission of the name “God” from the dialogue...

That says it all.

3 posted on 03/21/2014 6:01:53 AM PDT by newfreep
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To: C19fan
Noah will rile some for the complete omission of the name “God” from the dialogue

Haven't see the movie, but that sounds pretty silly. Deletes the central character.

Would also like to point out the word "God" is a title, the English translation of the Hebrew and Greek words used in the Bible to reference Deity. A common noun used as a title, not a proper noun or name.

4 posted on 03/21/2014 6:03:42 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: C19fan

So... why a global flood?
Just a cosmic accident?


5 posted on 03/21/2014 6:03:45 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

So... why a global flood?
Answer,
Genesis 6

King James Version (KJV)

6 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

7 And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.

9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.

10 And Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.

12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.

13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

14 Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch.

15 And this is the fashion which thou shalt make it of: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits.

16 A window shalt thou make to the ark, and in a cubit shalt thou finish it above; and the door of the ark shalt thou set in the side thereof; with lower, second, and third stories shalt thou make it.

17 And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.

18 But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons’ wives with thee.

19 And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.

20 Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive.

21 And take thou unto thee of all food that is eaten, and thou shalt gather it to thee; and it shall be for food for thee, and for them.

22 Thus did Noah; according to all that God commanded him, so did he.


6 posted on 03/21/2014 6:05:47 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: C19fan
Sounds like this is Russel Crowe's "Water World."
7 posted on 03/21/2014 6:07:32 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it.")
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To: US Navy Vet

Yes, I know the TRUTH.

I was wondering what the film posited as the reason that this catastrophe was occurring...

Man made global warming?


8 posted on 03/21/2014 6:07:48 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: C19fan

Telling the story of Noah without mentioning God is like talking about the climate without mentioning the sun.


9 posted on 03/21/2014 6:10:06 AM PDT by AU72
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To: AU72

If it doesn’t mention God then who shuts the door to the dark?


10 posted on 03/21/2014 6:11:22 AM PDT by GoDuke
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To: C19fan
At this point "Noah" sounds a lot like "Titanic": Marketing generated fluff rather than the telling of a real story (even with artistic license).

This is film maker arrogance run amuck.

I still have never seen "Titanic" and I think I will have to miss this one too.

11 posted on 03/21/2014 6:11:46 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: AU72

Yep, or telling the story of the John F. Kennedy assassination and leaving out John F. Kennedy and never mentioning him. . . .


12 posted on 03/21/2014 6:14:28 AM PDT by RatRipper (The political left are utterly evil and corrupt)
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To: C19fan
The real story
13 posted on 03/21/2014 6:14:32 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: C19fan

My understanding is that the movie doesn’t omit God it just refers to him as “Creator” rather than God.


14 posted on 03/21/2014 6:16:28 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: C19fan

I predict this will be on TV for free before long!!!


15 posted on 03/21/2014 6:19:30 AM PDT by ontap
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To: hopespringseternal
At this point "Noah" sounds a lot like "Titanic".

And thousands of attendees will be angered when, prior to buying their tickets, they overhear people discussing "The Flood".

Very similar to Titanic: "Thanks for spoiling the ending, jerk!"


16 posted on 03/21/2014 6:22:08 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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To: Night Hides Not

I remember watching Titanic, and after about 10 minutes, I’m thinking, “Just sink, already.”


17 posted on 03/21/2014 6:23:33 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: GoDuke

Most children’s books about the arch “narrative” gets that wrong too. The word “narrative” is a postmodernist watchword.


18 posted on 03/21/2014 6:27:40 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: demshateGod

Ark not arch.


19 posted on 03/21/2014 6:30:25 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: demshateGod

One of the greatest disservices to the account of the global flood is the children’s representation of the ark as a bathtub shaped vessel sporting a house on top and a giraffe’s head sticking out, giving it the impression of size of about 40 ft long.

Then some atheist comes along and says something like “see, it would be impossible to get every species on one boat”.


20 posted on 03/21/2014 6:32:17 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: C19fan

I’m surprised Crowe went along with this version.
He has gone on record as believing in Heaven but I don’t know if he embraces all the rest of Christianity...
Too bad because this movie could’ve been wonderful.


21 posted on 03/21/2014 6:34:03 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: C19fan; CTrent1564
To be sure, this is not the genial, grandfatherly Noah charmingly evoked by John Huston when he led an orderly assemblage of animals into the ark two-by-two in his 1965 epic The Bible. Crowe's Noah is a fighter, a survivalist and yet a tortured man dismayed by the ruin brought upon the land by the others of his species. In a visit with his ancient grandfather Methuselah (Anthony Hopkins), the men agree that, “It's men who broke the world,” and that, as a result, the Creator will destroy it....

.... by far the most startling apparition in this context are the Watchers, the so-called Nephilim, or fallen angels only glancingly mentioned in the Bible. Here they take the form of giant, ferocious-looking rock people (given great, gravelly voice by Nick Nolte, Mark Margolis and Frank Langella, no less) who not only come to Noah's aid by doing the heavy lifting in building the ark but cut down, stomp on and otherwise decimate the hordes who eventually besiege the ark in hopes of climbing aboard at the last minute.

Related threads and "we can revisit this now" ping:
Rough Seas on 'Noah': Darren Aronofsky Opens Up on the Biblical Battle....
Noah Set to Flip the Biblical Script: Film places animals above human beings
8 reasons for Catholics to see the upcoming Noah movie
Russell Crowe Lobbies Pope Francis to See 'Noah'
Pope Cancels Tentative ‘Noah’ Meeting With Russell Crowe

22 posted on 03/21/2014 6:34:12 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: MrB

Or some Christian that doesn’t share your interpretation.


23 posted on 03/21/2014 6:48:10 AM PDT by DManA
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To: C19fan

Actually, the sins and violent evil of people has everything to do with the flood, which is dealt with in the movie. What are you talking about?


24 posted on 03/21/2014 6:50:22 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: DManA

Then I hope their “allegorical” Jesus saves them from their “allegorical” sin.


25 posted on 03/21/2014 6:52:37 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

It is well with my soul.


26 posted on 03/21/2014 7:08:42 AM PDT by DManA
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To: C19fan

Somebody could make a fairly low budget Biblical epic right now that would seriously kick the leftists in the neuts.

The movie would be about Nimrod, king of Shinar, and the Tower of Babel. And, oddly enough, as an allegory of Al Gore.

According to extra-Biblical sources, Nimrod suffered from the same arrogance as Lucifer, vanity, figuring that he could build a tower all the way to heaven, then he could climb it and “be like God”.

The allegory of Al Gore comes into play as just the opposite. First he imagines himself to “be like God”, then proclaims he has the power to control the weather. Vanity in another form. The whole MMGW thing. How tiny humanity creates a fraction of a trace gas that somehow leverages control over the immense climate. Vanity incarnate.

In such a movie, the tower itself could just be a painted backdrop, because the purpose of the movie is the dialogue showing the utter arrogance and vanity of Nimrod. And Al Gore. Stomping around proclaiming how mighty they are, and how they intend to take God’s place in the scheme of things.

The movie is a rebuttal to atheistic socialism, which imagines for itself mankind as Leviathan, in the center of the universe. A rewriting of the Bible to put mankind in the place of God.

So the movie could be made on a shoestring, even as a stage production. And unlike “Noah”, God would be front and center, with the pathos of men trying and failing to usurp what is vastly beyond them.


27 posted on 03/21/2014 7:11:48 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: C19fan
for the complete omission of the name “God” from the dialogue

How is that possible?

28 posted on 03/21/2014 7:17:24 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: C19fan

This movie could breath new life into “In Search Of”...


29 posted on 03/21/2014 7:28:06 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Alex Murphy
the Watchers, the so-called Nephilim, or fallen angels only glancingly mentioned in the Bible. Here they take the form of giant, ferocious-looking rock people (given great, gravelly voice by Nick Nolte, Mark Margolis and Frank Langella, no less) who not only come to Noah's aid by doing the heavy lifting in building the ark but cut down, stomp on and otherwise decimate the hordes who eventually besiege the ark in hopes of climbing aboard at the last minute.

How hard would it have been for him to check his facts?

The Nephilim are not the fallen angels, they are the sons of the fallen angels with the daughters of men.

Genesis implies very strongly that the Nephilim would have been much more likely to oppose Noah than support him. That the violence and evil of the world of their day was largely perpetrated by the fallen angels and their offspring, the Nephilim.

There are other ideas on who the Nephilim and the "sons of God" were, but this is the one I buy into.

30 posted on 03/21/2014 7:33:54 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
Genesis implies very strongly that the Nephilim would have been much more likely to oppose Noah than support him. That the violence and evil of the world of their day was largely perpetrated by the fallen angels and their offspring, the Nephilim.

That's for sure. Satan and his boys were trying to corrupt the Adamic race seedline from which Christ would eventually come. Noah and his family were the only pedigree linkage back to Adam, all the rest were hybrids at the time of the flood.

31 posted on 03/21/2014 8:20:44 AM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: C19fan

Very few historical epics worth watching now

Fags and Christ haters destroy them

Fembots too

All agenda foremost

White Queen was good....Stars...ironically

I tried to watch Black Sails...
Went lesbo and PC on slavery right away

Just junk

The lead captain was good though..


32 posted on 03/21/2014 8:25:04 AM PDT by wardaddy (the real battle is what do we replace America as we knew it with....and will we fight..literally)
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To: C19fan

I wonder what Aronofsky does with Genesis 6:5?


33 posted on 03/21/2014 8:29:01 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (http://jonah2eight.blogspot.com/)
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To: Karl Spooner
Noah and his family were the only pedigree linkage back to Adam, all the rest were hybrids at the time of the flood.

I don't think that conclusion is supported by Genesis. Noah's line of descent is given, but it doesn't say others weren't equally "pure" of blood.

At the very least, Noah and his sons had wives, and their families would have had to be "pure" by your definition.

The Bible speaks of a corrupt and violent culture and society being the problem, not universally corrupt blood lines.

In fact, there is very little support in the Bible, even in the OT, for the notion that God cares much at all about bloodlines. None at all in the NT.

34 posted on 03/21/2014 8:34:32 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Excellent point, and I agree with you. The story could be much more exciting and even a bit techno-savvy with the facts.


35 posted on 03/21/2014 8:56:26 AM PDT by esquirette ("Our hearts are restless until they find rest in Thee." ~ Augustine)
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To: Sherman Logan
In fact, there is very little support in the Bible, even in the OT, for the notion that God cares much at all about bloodlines.

Well it didn't take God long to get around to mentioning it. Even Christ mentioned the seedlines of the Kenites jn 8.44 and his own back to David.Rev.22.16

Genesis 3:15 "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her Seed; It shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise His heel."

36 posted on 03/21/2014 10:16:17 AM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: MrB

Yes, cosmic. Accident? Who knows.

See here:
http://www.threeimpacts-twoevents.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/COMET-IMPACT-ANALYSIS-AND-EFFECTS-20Aug2013.pdf


37 posted on 03/21/2014 10:36:17 AM PDT by mj81
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To: Karl Spooner

Quite true. Possibly I should have said God doesn’t appear to care much about purity of bloodlines. Belief not blood.

Christ’s own pedigree, for instance, shows that he descended in the direct royal line from Rahab the harlot, Ruth the Moabitess, and two of the most evil women in the whole Bible, Jezebel the Canaanite (Phenician) woman and her daughter Athaliah, who murdered all her son’s children, her own grandchildren, or thought she did, so she could usurp the throne.

There were no doubt many other non-Israelite women in His ancestry that were not mentioned.


38 posted on 03/21/2014 10:38:17 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Dixie Yooper

I’m in search of finding out about the city of Nod and how people came about to being there after Able slew Cain. He was exiled there with a mark on his forehead. Where did those people come from since Able and Cain came from Noah’s family?
From the commercials on this movie there were too many snakes coming to it and I’m sure the Biblical account says the creatures came two by two to the ark. So, it exaggerates the truth once again.


39 posted on 03/21/2014 2:14:25 PM PDT by TEARUNNER14 (Abortions on demand! " HELL ON DEMAND FOR YOU ABORTIONIST" SAYS GOD!)
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To: Sherman Logan
Christ’s own pedigree, for instance, shows that he descended in the direct royal line from Rahab the harlot, Ruth the Moabitess, and two of the most evil women in the whole Bible, Jezebel the Canaanite (Phenician) woman and her daughter Athaliah, who murdered all her son’s children, her own grandchildren, or thought she did, so she could usurp the throne.

Rahab was a Canaanite, which evolved from Ham. Everyone you listed appears to be a Semitic . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_people

I wasn't interested in running them down in character. My point was that no Nephilim blood is involved with Christ, only Semitic blood.

40 posted on 03/21/2014 4:13:35 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Karl Spooner

Jezebel was Canaanite, and her daughter Athaliah was half Canaanite and half Israelite.

The Nephilim, for fairly obvious reasons, all died in the flood, so it’s not a bit surprising Jesus had none of their blood.


41 posted on 03/21/2014 4:17:03 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: C19fan

Noah probably fights off ninja’a in this one


42 posted on 03/21/2014 4:19:13 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Sherman Logan
Jezebel was Canaanite, and her daughter Athaliah was half Canaanite and half Israelite. The Nephilim, for fairly obvious reasons, all died in the flood, so it’s not a bit surprising Jesus had none of their blood.

Hate to do this to you, but it's for the greater good, was the bloodline of Christ important to Yahwah as you previously stated that it wasn't?

43 posted on 03/21/2014 4:34:14 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Karl Spooner

I’m not the one who claimed there was some group of people of “impure blood” who needed to be excluded from Christ’s ancestry.


44 posted on 03/21/2014 4:37:40 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
I’m not the one who claimed there was some group of people of “impure blood” who needed to be excluded from Christ’s ancestry.

Sure you did. It didn't even matter to you.

In fact, there is very little support in the Bible, even in the OT, for the notion that God cares much at all about bloodlines. None at all in the NT.

45 posted on 03/21/2014 4:51:30 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Karl Spooner

I said there was NOT some group of people who needed to be excluded, not that there was.


46 posted on 03/21/2014 4:54:36 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
I said there was NOT some group of people who needed to be excluded, not that there was

You seem to be more vague as we go along here. Want to start over?

47 posted on 03/21/2014 5:03:03 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Karl Spooner

You brought up the, unsupported by Genesis IMO, notion that Noah was special not because he was a righteous man of faith, but because he and his sons were the only surviving humans not “polluted” by demonic/Nephilim blood. And that the reason for this was an attempt to destroy the bloodline necessary to produce Christ, or perhaps more accurately, Mary.

To document this I pointed out that in the two reported lines of Christ’s ancestry, there are a significant number of known non-Israelite women. With the reasonable assumption there are a bunch more in his millions of other ancestors in the thousand years between David and Mary.

IMO God does not obsess about bloodlines, since there are multiple examples of faith being the critical issue for him.

Hebrews 11: By faith Noah, when warned about things not yet seen, in holy fear built an ark to save his family. By his faith he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness that is in keeping with faith.

No mention here at all of his bloodline.

So who do you think the “polluted people” descended from the Nephilim were in ancient days and today? And how did the Nephilim survive the flood?


48 posted on 03/21/2014 5:22:50 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
No mention here at all of his bloodline.

If you want to believe that the satanic blood line is in Christ, go ahead and believe it.

49 posted on 03/21/2014 5:33:29 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Karl Spooner

I just don’t believe there IS any satanic bloodline among humans, and hasn’t been since the flood.

So who are its representatives today?


50 posted on 03/21/2014 5:42:29 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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