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Food hoarding illegal during WW I
Survialist Boards ^ | 3/18/14 | txprep

Posted on 03/21/2014 9:51:40 PM PDT by Kartographer

"It was alleged that the food hoarded was sufficient to maintain the family for more than a year and hence far in excess of the requirements for 30 days, the period recognized by hoover as a "reasonable one" for residents of cities."

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TOPICS: Food; History
KEYWORDS: preparedness; preppers
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=940CEEDD1238EE32A25753C3A9639C946996D6CF
1 posted on 03/21/2014 9:51:40 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


2 posted on 03/21/2014 9:52:38 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=940CEEDD1238EE32A25753C3A9639C946996D6CF


3 posted on 03/21/2014 9:52:54 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

It still wouldn’t have stopped me. How would the authorities have known?


4 posted on 03/21/2014 10:56:08 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Kartographer

Too much Liberty Cabbage there, citizen!


5 posted on 03/21/2014 11:06:25 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (My citizenship is not here.)
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To: Jonty30

Envious snitches.


6 posted on 03/21/2014 11:07:08 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (My citizenship is not here.)
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To: Jonty30
How would the authorities have known?

Loose lips.

7 posted on 03/21/2014 11:27:25 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: Kartographer

I can remember seeing WWII cartoons decrying hoarding. I don’t know if any were prosecuted then.


8 posted on 03/21/2014 11:43:55 PM PDT by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: Kartographer
OCD interviewer: "My goodness, Miss Jones! 500 cans of soup. Did you hoard all those canned goods by yourself?"
Miss Jones: "Nah, my sister Mabel whored about half of them."
9 posted on 03/22/2014 12:10:16 AM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: FredZarguna

OCD: Office of Civilian Defense. Based on a true story.


10 posted on 03/22/2014 12:10:54 AM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: Kartographer

The trick is opsec - don’t let anyone know how much you have stored. Even if you are encouraging a receptive neighbor to “be prepared” and using food as an example, never admit to having over 30 days of anything. One person can keep a secret; two cannot.


11 posted on 03/22/2014 2:31:02 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: FredZarguna

That’s funny. Kind of. That Selco guy from Yugoslavia talked about the wives and mothers that hadn’t hoarded anything. Further into the war, 10 minutes in the sack was worth a tin of meat to bring home to the family.


12 posted on 03/22/2014 2:53:02 AM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: Kartographer

Just rereading King Rat - James Clavell’s monument to the King of hoarders.


13 posted on 03/22/2014 3:38:06 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Kartographer

The Republic has been dead for 100 years. This article from 1918 is just one more bit of proof.


14 posted on 03/22/2014 5:09:31 AM PDT by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: FredZarguna; 21twelve

That’s hilarious, and I have a LOT of soup. Now excuse me while I go out and buy another six cases.


15 posted on 03/22/2014 5:29:36 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: Kartographer

From a comment at the link:

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10 barrels and 373 pounds of flour;
2200 lbs of granulated sugar;
595 lbs of brown sugar;
637 lbs of domino sugar;
122 lbs of ham;
185 lbs of strip bacon;
387 tins of slcied bacon;
67 tins of roast beef;
58 tins of corned beef;
large quantities of olive oil;
138 cans of sardines;
77 cans of salmon;
35 cans of molasses;
5 cans of German sausage;
hundreds of cans of soup;
hundreds of cans of baked beans;
176 cans of asparagus;
a number of bottles of anchovies and Russian caviar;
138 lbs of coffee;
953 lbs of rice;
jelly sufficient for many months;
200 lbs of salt;
30 lbs of gumdrops;
20 lbs of chocolates;
34 dozen jars of orange marmalade;
Plus many other supplies...

AND

2 bottles of cordial;
A case of champagne;
A case of Italian wines;
6 quarts of whisky;
48 quarts of California brandy;
84 quarts of sherry

AND even more coffee and tea.

____________________________________________________________

I feel inadequate in terms of my preparedness!


16 posted on 03/22/2014 6:27:58 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Jonty30

Yeh our response to that foolishmess is “tough tacos”. This Ain’t WWI. We now live in the USSA.


17 posted on 03/22/2014 6:35:26 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Ping.


18 posted on 03/22/2014 7:19:50 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Kartographer

Hmmmm Hoover and Wilson. Should’ve known those guys were involved....

America declared war on Germany on April 6, 1917 and President Wilson called Herbert Hoover home to take charge of food organization in America. Hoover was appointed U.S. Food Administrator.

America had to provide food for her own armies and the other Allies, for the Allied peoples and for the American people at home. Herbert Hoover saw the effort as a willingness of the people to serve the nation voluntarily. He called his program food conservation, but many Americans called it “Hooverizing.” There were wheatless Wednesdays and meatless Mondays, as examples.

http://www.ecommcode.com/hoover/hooveronline/hoover_bio/food.htm


19 posted on 03/22/2014 7:34:52 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: DuncanWaring

During WWII, my Sister-in-law’s husband’s family ran a ranch in West Texas. They were self sufficient, canned their own meats and vegetables for ranch use. They had to be well supplied for the winters there.

One day. someone snitched, and the authorities raided,and confiscated all of their foods they had canned leaving them nothing. The authorities claimed their stockpile for winter was “hoarding”.

How did they survive? They had another smaller cellar off in the hills no one knew about.

And to think, just ten years before, those same authorities were buying up all the beef they could, digging a ditch, shooting the animals and burying them, trying to create a shortage so they could get the price of eat up.


20 posted on 03/22/2014 7:38:54 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Kartographer

Never tell. Never admit. Don’t know nuthin’.


21 posted on 03/22/2014 8:55:02 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Kartographer

Mr mm and I came across a source for very good water filters.

We know someone who has used these and had their water tested and they work quite well in taking out contaminants and improving the taste of the water. Mr. mm has tasted the water and seen the test results for the water purification.

The filters are huge, not your countertop models and the one we have is almost two feet high and rated to take out chlorine, lead, critters, and improve taste and odor and is rated for 40,000 gallons of water before needing to be changed and they are quite reasonably priced compared to other filter systems we have looked into.

The site appears to cater to preppers.

Here is a link to them.....

http://www.h2ofilters.com/mafifrkxin.html

We have the PB1 which is the CTO model but takes out lead as well. There are other varieties of filter available.


22 posted on 03/22/2014 9:06:40 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: bgill

Even the current government tells you to stock at least 3 months of food and water. We have about 6 months of growing season, maybe 7 if we cover the crop, so we need to keep about 6 months of food to use during the months with no crops.

To me that’s not hoarding or even being prepared. That’s just life in the country.

I do know that during the Civil War, both the Union and the Confederate soldiers confiscated food from the areas they passed through. Always good to have a secret stash somewhere.


23 posted on 03/22/2014 9:07:23 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Kartographer


24 posted on 03/22/2014 9:11:27 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: greeneyes

I have old family letters from the CW talking about how the troops took their horses and everything that wasn’t nailed down. Hard times back then and from all indications hard times are coming again.

Add 2-3 more months to your “hoard” because half of those growing season months will be before the plants get big enough to start harvesting. Hubby saw the freezer this morning and was shocked how empty it is. It’s going to take some time to just get it full and then start back on our “hoarding” after a recent bump in the road. One step forward and 16 back so thank goodness garden season is here!


25 posted on 03/22/2014 9:19:42 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Kartographer

“In 1994, former President Bill Clinton released an executive order that lumped together a number of laws that could go into effect in the event of a declaration of martial law. One of the laws included in this order, number 10998, allows the federal government to sieze hoarded food supplies from both public and private sources.”

Sorry, there is other legislation against hoarding food. They just aren’t being enforced. Yet.


26 posted on 03/22/2014 11:51:21 AM PDT by SisterK (behold a pale horse)
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To: iowamark

During WWII, Victory Gardens were encouraged. But we are living in a different world these days.


27 posted on 03/22/2014 11:53:03 AM PDT by SisterK (behold a pale horse)
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To: Kartographer; All

Alot of people “kept” their “hoard” by burying some of their supplies out in the yard, right under the petunias.


28 posted on 03/22/2014 7:45:51 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Kartographer

The funny thing is that one is considered a prepper if you have 3 weeks worth of food.


29 posted on 03/22/2014 8:06:04 PM PDT by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: bgill

I am gradually building up to a 1 year or more supply, depending on the use by dates. For example Salmon has a use by date of 8/17, so I can stock more than a year.


30 posted on 03/23/2014 11:31:38 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Kartographer

bttt


31 posted on 03/23/2014 7:26:17 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: Kartographer

Just another way the government may make itself the enemy.


32 posted on 03/23/2014 7:30:00 PM PDT by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: greeneyes

I can take salmon patties about once a year but the family balks at that.

The grocery store sage continues. Needed to start working on building up the now very empty freezer so picked up some beef that was advertised on sale. As usual, they hadn’t marked it with the sale price so all week customers were buying it at the regular price. I had to holler at them about that. Then a “buy this get that free” and a couple other items hadn’t been ordered, etc. I made them substitute a couple of lbs of dried beans. Guarantee if it does hit the fan one day, the manager will lock the doors and take it all to his house.... now to find where that might be....


33 posted on 03/24/2014 7:01:02 AM PDT by bgill
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To: bgill

Well I don’t care for Salmon that much, but I can eat salmon cakes now and then. I can eat almost anything that has been fried and crunchy on the outside.LOL

Hubby love to eat salmon salad. When he makes that, I make tuna salad. He eats his and I eat mine. My menu plan only calls for Salmon and/or Tuna once a month. I use canned clams to make clam chowder twice a month.

Fish once a week is plenty, but sometimes I cook catfish or talapia instead of chowder.


34 posted on 03/25/2014 8:47:54 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Kartographer

bumping again to top


35 posted on 03/26/2014 10:26:26 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: miss marmelstein
"Just rereading King Rat - James Clavell’s monument to the King of hoarders."

I particularly recall the 'closed loop' food system of men eating rats,
that ate roaches,
that ate the contents of the mens latrine pits...
Rather imagine some of the 'green' libtards would love that...
36 posted on 03/30/2014 10:23:57 AM PDT by 45semi (A police state is always preceded by a nanny state...)
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To: 21twelve
"That Selco guy from Yugoslavia talked about the wives and mothers that hadn’t hoarded anything.
Further into the war, 10 minutes in the sack was worth a tin of meat to bring home to the family."


Knew a slightly despicable Korean war vet that bragged about how a pocketful of candy bars
went a long way towards fending off boredom during guard duty,
when columns of refugees, consisting mainly of women & children passed by his area.
37 posted on 03/30/2014 10:29:11 AM PDT by 45semi (A police state is always preceded by a nanny state...)
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To: 45semi

King Rat is probably environmentalists’ bible for gracious living!


38 posted on 03/30/2014 10:41:31 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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