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Mom arrested while trying to console special needs son in school
Yahoo! ^ | March 21, 2014 | Will Lerner

Posted on 03/23/2014 4:15:46 AM PDT by Altariel

Missouri resident Niakea Williams was at home, in bed when she got a phone call from Walnut Groves Elementary School. She was told that her son, Michael,who has Asperger’s syndrome, was panicking. Niakea quickly head over to her son’s school, got buzzed in, and immediately went to find Michael. As KMOV News 4 reports, what happened next has Ms. Williams furious.

Ms. Williams, though she had been buzzed in as a “known parent” by school officials, apparently broke protocol when she did not sign in before heading to Michael’s classroom to console him. Williams admits this but feels she was justified, telling KMOV, “I didn’t sign the book, but I had to check on my son.” She told the principal to bring the book to her and she’d sign it, but the administrator had other ideas. Niakea recounts, “She said, ‘Oh no, I’ve already called the police.’”

She had indeed called the police. Calverton Park Police showed up and put the school in a 12-minute lockdown due to an “unauthorized entry to a school.” Williams was arrested and taken to the police station on trespassing charges. This all despite her being a known parent at the school who actually had met with the principal just one day prior.

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1 posted on 03/23/2014 4:15:47 AM PDT by Altariel
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To: Altariel

Sue the living crap out of them.


2 posted on 03/23/2014 4:20:20 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: Altariel

The level of stupidity is striking. This petty dictator is so shocked that a parent placed her child’s needs over deference to the almighty principal’s bureaucratic nonsense that she called the police on a parent that the school called in? The mom needs an apology, and the tyrant needs a now job away from children. I’m sure the Obama administration is looking for someone just like her.


3 posted on 03/23/2014 4:23:48 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Crim

Change schools, then sue.


4 posted on 03/23/2014 4:24:31 AM PDT by maddog55 (I'd be Pro-Choice if we could abort liberals.)
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To: Altariel

They’re nothing more than automatons - incapable of thinking!


5 posted on 03/23/2014 4:25:47 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Pollster1

The police should have refused to arrest her.

“You buzzed her in as a known parent. She is not trespassing because you admitted her entry.”

But, government employees would rather scratch the backs of fellow government employees, I suppose, than use common sense or logic.


6 posted on 03/23/2014 4:28:00 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

Increasing numbers of reports indicate that our schools are being administered by blithering idiots.


7 posted on 03/23/2014 4:33:35 AM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: Altariel

Maybe not the whole story is not being told. I hate news reporting.

From someone who posted on the article that knows the mother. The mother’s a nut job according to the poster. With the story being one sided we really don’t know the truth. The poster’s reply below:

First of all that is an out right lie. This mother son is ED Emotional Disturbed and is not Autistic. The teacher did not call frantically. This mother has been an issue every since her children have attended Walnut Grove. She has threaten to stab a mother and has had conflicts with another family which led to the police and the family having a meeting on Wednesday.

I feel the news needs to investigate before putting anything on the air. Next time check the background of the parent before believing anything they say. She knows school and district policy. All she had to do was stop by the office and sign in. Also her son went outside and played while the police escorted her out of the building.


8 posted on 03/23/2014 4:38:29 AM PDT by BushCountry (If you're wondering, "I got my screenname before GW was elected the first time.")
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To: Altariel

Yet another example of inability to think on the part of school officials. What idiots.


9 posted on 03/23/2014 4:40:51 AM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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To: BushCountry

“I saw a teacher and she said Ms. Williams what is wrong? I said something is wrong with Mikey and proceeded to go straight to my son,” said Williams.

She got to her son’s classroom and immediately started to console him. Then the school principal informed her she was violated school policy by not signing in.

“I didn’t sign the book, but I had to check on my son. You can bring me the book, She said oh no, I’ve already called the police. You called what,” said Williams.

Calverton Park Police responded to the call that came out as an “unauthorized entry to a school.” The school was also put on a 12-minute lockdown and a letter was sent home to parents.

“They escorted me away from my son, who already has emotional distress. Four officers told me to turn around and put my hands behind my back, I was under arrest,” said Williams.

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The question is: what was in the letter sent home to parents?

http://www.kmov.com/news/local/Mother-arrested-at-school-for-consoling-son-in-local-classroom-251349481.html


10 posted on 03/23/2014 4:44:00 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: BushCountry

By the way, either your commenter is a parent who knows *way* too much about another parent’s business (from information passed on, unlawfully, by a school employee or your commenter is a school employee who opens himself/herself up to a lawsuit from that disclosure.

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debie flask (signed in using Hotmail)
First of all that is an out right lie. This mother son is ED Emotional Disturbed and is not Autistic. The teacher did not call frantically. This mother has been an issue every since her children have attended Walnut Grove. She has threaten to stab a mother and has had conflicts with another family which led to the police and the family having a meeting Wednesday. I feel the news needs to investigate before putting anything on the air. Next time check the background of the parent before believing anything they say. She knows school and district policy. All she had to do was stop by the office and sign in. Also her son went outside and played while the police escorted her out of the building. Also the students are on special permission to attend there.


11 posted on 03/23/2014 4:47:34 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

There are no public schools, only Gulags!


12 posted on 03/23/2014 4:55:44 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Altariel
Ah ha! Mrs. Kravits strikes again! I have one right next door to me.
13 posted on 03/23/2014 4:55:55 AM PDT by mazda77
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14 posted on 03/23/2014 4:57:05 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: Altariel

The simple minded desperately need to stick to protocols. It prevents them from doing difficult things, like think and make sound judgments.

I work at a law firm where I helped them develop deposition and litigation protocols. I have to remind someone at least weekly that the protocols are a model, not a prison.


15 posted on 03/23/2014 5:01:33 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: Altariel

I’ve been called to school several times and I’ve always signed in, even when it was an emergency. There was no excuse for her not signing in. However, I don’t think it rises to the level of an arrestable offense, unless she’s been warned several times.

I would say that she probably caused her own arrest by how she talked and interacted with the police. Some people are belligerent with the police and that means if they have “discretion” - the police won’t use it in your favor.

But no ... this person doesn’t know “way too much” as anyone can tell you about other parents in these classes, especially if they stand out, as this mother obviously does. I know as much about some others in our school as this person does.


16 posted on 03/23/2014 5:02:49 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Altariel
Broader topic: mainstreaming special needs kids does not work.

Bad for special needs kids -- lack of specialized care.
Bad for average kids -- teachers have to focus on kids with problems.
Bad for gifted kids -- special programs are made for troubled kids, no resources left for the gifted.
Bad for communities -- schools become totally dysfunctional.

No one in this story knew how to behave rationally. Because the situation was botched from the start. Mainstreaming doesn't work.

17 posted on 03/23/2014 5:06:58 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Crim

You can’t sue schools very easily. They have the system gamed.


18 posted on 03/23/2014 5:09:01 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Star Traveler

The school’s just covering its ass in case someone pulls the same stunt and goes on a killing spree. The same people ready to sue now will sure as hell sue then.


19 posted on 03/23/2014 5:10:06 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Star Traveler

The mother indicated her willingness to sign in. The school administration, despite *buzzing her in*, called and reported her for trespassing.

Even if she talked to/interacted with the police disrespectfully, she did not “cause her own arrest”. They *chose* to arrest her.

And yes, the person commenting does know way too much-—either they have so little to do in their own lives that they seek out gossip, or they are a nosy school employee who has nothing better to do on the taxpayer’s time than to seek out and air other people’s dirty laundry (if true).


20 posted on 03/23/2014 5:12:21 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: AppyPappy

And the taxpayers foot the bill (Huh. That seems to be a reoccurring theme....)


21 posted on 03/23/2014 5:13:06 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: BushCountry

I tend to agree. This could well be a genuine case of school administrator bumbling and overreaction, or it could be that there’s a lot more to this story that hasn’t been reported. I think back to a few months ago when Yahoo ran a half-dozen stories about that waitress who allegedly got a “homophobic” message on a meal ticket receipt. Nobody at Yahoo bothered to question or even take a close look at the waitress’ version of events in that story, until it became obvious it was a complete hoax.

So, yeah, I’m gonna wait and see on this one. I don’t trust school administrators much, but I trust journalists even less.


22 posted on 03/23/2014 5:14:11 AM PDT by DemforBush (The scourge of mariachis and polka bands everywhere.)
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To: Star Traveler

By the way, I can guarantee you that there is at least one other parent in the school who enters *without signing in* (a spouse of a school employee, a parent *liked*/favored by the school administration.

All it takes is for witnesses to verify that Jane Doe/John Doe was in the building and to check the sign in log to see if he/she signed in to prove.


23 posted on 03/23/2014 5:16:32 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel
From the article ... Any questions?
24 posted on 03/23/2014 5:17:56 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Altariel

Walking past the office, going to the classroom and telling someone to bring the sign-in sheet - is not willingness to sign in.

The “buzzing in” has to happen with everyone - even those who will not be allowed past the office. You’re being buzzed in NOT for free access to the school, but you are being buzzed in to go to the office to “get the clearance” to go past the office.

I’ve seen stupid people interact with the police and they DO get themselves arrested. I’ve been around many such instances when another person would have walked away from a police encounter - and a “real stupid person” gets arrested. Usually I’m saying to myself ... “He’s going to get arrested!” And he does ... :-) ...

And no ... they don’t know too much, because certain types of people are mouthy and draw a lot of attention to themselves - and quickly get to be known by others around them.


25 posted on 03/23/2014 5:24:29 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: oh8eleven

She looks like the IDIOT she’s already demonstrated herself to be!


26 posted on 03/23/2014 5:25:33 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Altariel

I’ve been “waved on” when I’ve come to the office before. But I did go to the office to sign in and I was given permission to “go on” from the office without signing in (that was one time). But note ... the purpose of going to the office is “getting permission” to proceed past the office. That’s the key item.


27 posted on 03/23/2014 5:29:39 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Altariel

The school called her. The school buzzed her in. Mom has an open and shut case. It’s too bad that all the other parents will be paying for her lawsuit winnings via taxes, but that’s the price of strangling common sense with a staff of bureaucratic know-nothings.


28 posted on 03/23/2014 5:32:50 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Star Traveler

No, whether a person is acting wisely or foolishly, in all cases, the police *choose to make an arrest*. Sometimes they choose wisely, and sometimes they choose foolishly.

And a parent in a free nation does not need to “get clearance” to attend their own child-—unless you believe that the child is the *property of the school* and that the parent requires *permission* to manage their own child’s affairs on school grounds.

Now, you could argue that this account demonstrates that we are not a free nation, but in that case, one would hope you wouldn’t defend the practice.


29 posted on 03/23/2014 5:35:10 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Star Traveler

You should be bothered that you are justifying *getting permission from government employees* to see YOUR child on a conservative forum.


30 posted on 03/23/2014 5:36:13 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Sirius Lee

Exactly.

Besides, “school policy” is not written law, and the schools would do well to remember that the children are not their property.


31 posted on 03/23/2014 5:37:37 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Sirius Lee

She didn’t get “clearance” at the office to proceed past the office. The “buzzing in process” ONLY gets you to the office and NOT to the rest of the school. That’s the process that’s in effect for most schools. I’ve been through it many times - even when I’ve been called to come down, by the school.


32 posted on 03/23/2014 5:37:52 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Altariel

I wouldn’t want it any other way - because I expect that school to protect the child that I have there.


33 posted on 03/23/2014 5:39:32 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Crim
re: Sue the living crap out of them.

White Parent? Sue the Government school system? Sue the local uniformed tax collectors? Sue the town?

Good luck with that one.

34 posted on 03/23/2014 5:39:37 AM PDT by Tupelo (I feel more like Philip Nolan every day)
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To: Altariel

The school is legally responsible to protect those children while they are there. That’s something that all parents consider absolutely mandatory.


35 posted on 03/23/2014 5:41:10 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Altariel

Americans have become a people comfortable in our fascism.


36 posted on 03/23/2014 5:41:36 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Tupelo
Oops! I just saw a picture of Niakea Williams.
She wins any and all lawsuits.
37 posted on 03/23/2014 5:44:26 AM PDT by Tupelo (I feel more like Philip Nolan every day)
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To: Altariel

A parent who has their child in a school does not want ANYONE bypassing the office to go directly into the school proper WITHOUT permission being granted. And they take that position for the safety of their own child.


38 posted on 03/23/2014 5:44:34 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Altariel
You should be bothered that you spend all day on FR posting nothing but your hatred for police, "government employees," and anyone else in positions of authority.
I suggest you leave this "conservative forum" and go share your mental disease on a forum more deserving of your ignorance and hatred - DU.
39 posted on 03/23/2014 5:44:35 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Star Traveler

And which children, pray tell, are in danger from a mother who checks on her own child?


40 posted on 03/23/2014 5:44:49 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

Until one checks into the office - no one knows that.


41 posted on 03/23/2014 5:45:43 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: oh8eleven

I conclude you must also believe that children are the property of the school, and belong to the school, not to the parents, during school hours.


42 posted on 03/23/2014 5:46:00 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Amagi

“Increasing numbers of reports indicate that our schools are being administered by blithering idiots.”

But blithering idiots who not only have credentials but whose profession has full legal control of the monopoly on institutions that grant credentials. Institutionalize moron idiocy. (but I repeat myself)

The left must be defunded at every possible opportunity. If leftists can claim that they should never let a good crisis go to waste, so can we. Education is a walking crisis. Time to work towards abolishing government-run schools and the best way is through giving parents vouchers and allowing private schools to compete for the education money.


43 posted on 03/23/2014 5:46:19 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: BushCountry
She has threaten to stab a mother and has had conflicts with another family which led to the police and the family having a meeting on Wednesday.

Gee...you would think yahoo would include such pertinent information in their article...

My bet is the principal had already called the police the second she was buzzed in...

Being pro-active knowing she was unhinged...

44 posted on 03/23/2014 5:46:31 AM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Star Traveler
She didn’t get “clearance” at the office to proceed past the office. The “buzzing in process” ONLY gets you to the office and NOT to the rest of the school.

Okay Barney Fife. If you don't want parents, whom you know, to show up at school in a state of worry, don't call them and tell them there's something wrong with their kid and to come down and then expect them to not act like a worried mother.

Mama Bear/Cub. Don't get in the way Barney or you'll lose your ass - in this case via lawsuit.

45 posted on 03/23/2014 5:46:52 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Star Traveler

Really, so the magic act of signing one’s name on a piece of paper makes a mother checking on her own child no longer a threat?

By the way, anyone who wished to harm children could at first avoid detection by *following official protocol to minimize suspicion*.

Which children, pray tell, are endangered by a mother who is checking on her own child?


46 posted on 03/23/2014 5:47:42 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Popman

The school called the mother in the first place and buzzed her in.

If they thought she was unhinged and a danger, they would not have buzzed her in.

The whole *point* of a buzzed in system is that you have the option of *not* buzzing someone in if the evidence suggests that someone means to harm others.


47 posted on 03/23/2014 5:49:53 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Sirius Lee

Apparently the idea that we must “break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents, or kids belong to their families, and recognize that kids belong to whole communities” is gaining traction on FR.

Don’t you realize that the students were in danger because a mother didn’t sign a magical piece of paper?

</sarc>


48 posted on 03/23/2014 5:51:41 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

As I said before, the key is stopping at the office to get the permission to proceed past the office. And you’ll recall that I also said that I had been “waved on” once. But I always check in.

A “blur of a person” rushing past the office could be a killer or a murderer or a non-custodial parent who may be trying to steal the kid. That’s why all people are to stop by the office.


49 posted on 03/23/2014 5:52:45 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Altariel

We have lost our collective minds in allowing these administrators this type of authority.

Used to be schools had entrances all over the building, that were always open during school hours.

Now they have turned them into jails. I am suprised that she didn’t get a cavity search before entry.


50 posted on 03/23/2014 5:53:51 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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