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Everybody's Tolkien (Tolkien Reading Day)
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Posted on 03/25/2014 3:56:13 AM PDT by Perdogg

Now this is precious.

$6.2 billion and counting.

That's how much films based on J. R. R. Tolkien's books have made in all at the box office so far.

And there's still one part of The Hobbit trilogy to come.

The Lord Of The Rings (LOTR) and The Hobbit are also on the list of Top 10 best selling books of all time - LOTR at No. 2 with 150 million copies sold. The Hobbit is No. 6 with 100 million copies sold.

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TOPICS: Books/Literature; Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: bookreview; hollywood; jrrtolkien; thehobbit; thelordoftherings; thesilmarillion; tolkien; top10

1 posted on 03/25/2014 3:56:13 AM PDT by Perdogg
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ping


2 posted on 03/25/2014 3:57:00 AM PDT by Perdogg (Ted Cruz-Rand Paul 2016)
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To: Perdogg

I need to read the trilogy again. bttt


3 posted on 03/25/2014 4:51:16 AM PDT by Varda
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To: Perdogg

read the Hobbit and the Trilogy back in College TWICE.

I’m done.

(ps: found The Silmarillion unreadable...)


4 posted on 03/25/2014 5:11:35 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Perdogg
This J.R.R. Tolkien died back in 1973. I wonder what he would think of his books being so popular today and being made into movies and whatnot.


5 posted on 03/25/2014 5:18:03 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Perdogg

As an aside, I just read the Token, a short piece by Samual Shellabarger. Known for Prince of Foxes and Captains from Castile that were made into movies featuring Tyrone Powers. The Token was easy (simple) reading but his other stuff is pretty intricate and enjoyable. The Fox’s duel with Bayard is about as exciting as any fight scene ever written..


6 posted on 03/25/2014 5:18:54 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: SamAdams76

I think he’d be please that there were movies, but unhappy with the actual movies themselves (What author could be happy when a long carefully crafted book is stripped of most of its richness to fit into a 90 minute flick?)


7 posted on 03/25/2014 5:23:06 AM PDT by null and void ( Obama is Law-Less because Republican "leaders" are BALL-LESS!!)
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To: null and void
I'm not too happy with the movies. It seems like the battle scenes take way too much precedence while much of the story itself falls to the cutting room floor. Books are much better.

There are some movie adaptations that are excellent. Case in point is "Shawshank Redemption" which was taken from an obscure Steve King short story.

8 posted on 03/25/2014 5:40:54 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Perdogg

The Trilogy got me through Army Basic Training. I’ve read them twice. Seems about time to crack that leather-bound copy again.


9 posted on 03/25/2014 5:56:36 AM PDT by Makana ("Nothing can bring you peace but yourself; nothing, but the triumph of principles." -Emerson)
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To: Perdogg

The Trilogy got me through Army Basic Training. I’ve read them twice. Seems about time to crack that leather-bound copy again.


10 posted on 03/25/2014 5:56:37 AM PDT by Makana ("Nothing can bring you peace but yourself; nothing, but the triumph of principles." -Emerson)
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To: SamAdams76

Tolkien stated that his purpose in writing The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings was just to tell a tale similar to ancient epics. And they are very good stories.


11 posted on 03/25/2014 6:00:35 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: Perdogg

The Trilogy got me through Army Basic Training. I’ve read them twice. Seems about time to crack that leather-bound copy again.


12 posted on 03/25/2014 6:03:58 AM PDT by Makana ("Nothing can bring you peace but yourself; nothing, but the triumph of principles." -Emerson)
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To: SamAdams76
I'm not too happy with the movies. It seems like the battle scenes take way too much precedence...

I thought the same thing while reading the hugely-thick trilogy in 1966. Had to be a side effect of WWII going on when he was writing it. Peter Jackson's reasoning for so much war-footage in the movies is not clear to me.
13 posted on 03/25/2014 7:09:55 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Varda
I need to read the trilogy again.

I'm currently about halfway through The Silmarillion. Long but a worthwhile endeavor for a real Tolkien fan.

14 posted on 03/25/2014 7:55:36 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Truth sounds like hate...to those who hate truth.)
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To: null and void
I think he’d be please that there were movies, but unhappy with the actual movies themselves (What author could be happy when a long carefully crafted book is stripped of most of its richness to fit into a 90 minute flick?)

90 minutes? Each of these films is close to 3 hours long.

15 posted on 03/25/2014 8:35:43 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: LibertarianLiz

with extended DVD versions that add on at least another 1/2 hour too!


16 posted on 03/25/2014 8:38:18 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Makana
The Trilogy got me through Army Basic Training

So your company was adept at sword fighting and taking out enemy siege engines? ;)

17 posted on 03/25/2014 8:39:28 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: LibertarianLiz

I was disappointed there was no Tom Bombadil and Goldberry in the movie with the Barrow Wight.


18 posted on 03/25/2014 9:17:30 AM PDT by Perdogg (Ted Cruz-Rand Paul 2016)
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To: SamAdams76
I'm not too happy with the movies. It seems like the battle scenes take way too much precedence while much of the story itself falls to the cutting room floor. Books are much better.

Couldn't agree more, but I love the books. You're right about the battle scenes, but the absolute worst parts were the 180 degree perversions of the characters of Galadriel and Faramir.

It kinda goes along with Heinlein's rule ("nobody likes the soup 'til they pee in it") so I suppose we're supposed to swoon at the marvellous job the director did (blech) as opposed to the way he butchered the story.

19 posted on 03/25/2014 11:48:52 AM PDT by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I have a first American edition of The Silmarillon still in good shape. It’s a great book.


20 posted on 03/25/2014 2:52:39 PM PDT by Varda
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To: Varda
It’s a great book.

I love the Ring Trilogy and find the Silmarillion fascinating.

I would not have gotten this far if I hadn't read the others first. It would be awful. But if you read the Lord of The Rings trilogy first, the Silmarillion tales simply blossom as you read and the other books take on so much more depth.

21 posted on 03/25/2014 3:31:04 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Truth sounds like hate...to those who hate truth.)
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To: Vaquero

The silmarillion audio book has been posted on youtube. Trying reading along for a while with audio book until you get used to the structure.


22 posted on 03/25/2014 7:17:58 PM PDT by Perdogg (Ted Cruz-Rand Paul 2016)
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To: LibertarianLiz

The basic point remains, how long in book time do the stories take vs how long is available for a movie?


23 posted on 03/25/2014 8:08:09 PM PDT by null and void ( Obama is Law-Less because Republican "leaders" are BALL-LESS!!)
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To: Perdogg

Hopefully more people will actually read the books. People who see a movie and then decide “I don’t need to read the book, I’ve seen the movie” when the movie is (loosely) based on such classics don’t know what they’re missing.


24 posted on 03/25/2014 9:37:01 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: SamAdams76

He always thought that movie adaptions of his books could not be made, which is one reason he sold the film rights so cheaply.


25 posted on 03/26/2014 1:13:48 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Resettozero

Really? Its perfectly clear to me.


26 posted on 03/26/2014 1:14:32 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Vanders9

Very good. Thanks.


27 posted on 03/26/2014 5:48:40 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Varda

no need....I enjoyed the Hobbit and the Rings...but I am done now.


28 posted on 03/26/2014 8:06:09 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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29 posted on 03/26/2014 8:15:16 AM PDT by BlueDragon (You can observe a lot just by watching. Yogi Berra)
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To: SamAdams76

Here’s an essay gene Wolfe wrote around 2000 or so concerning Tolkien. Pretty good stuff, he actually wrote Tolkien a letter back in the day and I guess Tolkien responded.

http://www.thenightland.co.uk/MYWEB/wolfemountains.html

Freegards


30 posted on 03/26/2014 8:18:13 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: jimt
It kinda goes along with Heinlein's rule ("nobody likes the soup 'til they pee in it") so I suppose we're supposed to swoon at the marvellous job the director did (blech) as opposed to the way he butchered the story.

Yeah... The Hobbit movies are more like fan-fiction than a screen adaptation of the book.
31 posted on 03/26/2014 8:22:36 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (http://jonah2eight.blogspot.com/)
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To: Resettozero
Oh come on...its obvious...big exciting battle scenes sell movies. Simple as that.

And to be fair, there are a lot of battles in Tolkein's books. Its just that most of them are "off-camera" as it were. But of course, in a visual artform like film they cannot really be "off-camera". They have to be included, or at least more included than in a book.

32 posted on 03/26/2014 10:06:10 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Vanders9

Very good. Thanks.


33 posted on 03/26/2014 10:14:03 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Perdogg

Started reading the Hobbit in Seventh grade. Didn’t make it through, but I skipped to the end. I’d seen the movie on TV. Finally got around to reading the ebook about a year ago. Fun read, if you remember it was a children’s story, unlike LotR.


34 posted on 03/26/2014 2:37:06 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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I thought it was more intelligent than the modern children’s book. There are a lot of issues that I do not believe children of today would understand in the Hobbit. Especially the issues of war and peace and being brave and bold.


35 posted on 03/26/2014 4:14:55 PM PDT by Perdogg (Ted Cruz-Rand Paul 2016)
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I am glad Jackson is including things in the Hobbit movie that we did not know about until the LOTR. Like the white council’s assault on Dol Guldur.


36 posted on 03/27/2014 3:04:43 PM PDT by Perdogg (Ted Cruz-Rand Paul 2016)
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