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Thirdhand Smoke Is Real—And Risky to Your Health
National Geographic ^ | 03/20/2014 | Susan Brink

Posted on 03/25/2014 7:44:23 AM PDT by Rusty0604

Researchers now know that residual tobacco smoke, dubbed thirdhand smoke, combines with indoor pollutants such as ozone and nitrous acid to create new compounds. Thirdhand smoke mixes and settles with dust, drifts down to carpeting and furniture surfaces, and makes its way deep into the porous material in paneling and drywall.

Hotel workers who sweep, vacuum, change linens, and dust the rooms of smokers are exposed to higher doses of thirdhand smoke than are the guests who stay a few nights in smoking rooms

Those who move into houses or apartments formerly owned by smokers might be exposed as well. And thirdhand smoke is difficult to eliminate

(Excerpt) Read more at news.nationalgeographic.com ...


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I wonder what Rush has to say about this. And I'm still waiting to hear how tobacco smoke is so bad but pot smoke isn't.
1 posted on 03/25/2014 7:44:23 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

Well. I believe that third-hand homo residue is dangerous.


2 posted on 03/25/2014 7:45:48 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: Rusty0604
And thirdhand smoke is difficult to eliminate

Sounds like a business opportunity.
3 posted on 03/25/2014 7:46:07 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: mmichaels1970

> And thirdhand smoke is difficult to eliminate

Sounds like a business opportunity.

Or the hovernment’s other “options” - taxation and regulation


4 posted on 03/25/2014 7:47:50 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Rusty0604

National Geographic is hazardous to your mental health - first, second, and third hand exposure is toxic.


5 posted on 03/25/2014 7:48:38 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Rusty0604

What’s next? Fourth hand smoke I suppose...


6 posted on 03/25/2014 7:48:55 AM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: Rusty0604

So, never buy a “2nd hand couch” from a consignment shop if it has the faint odor of tobacco smoke? I’ll probably be sued by my former work buddies because my clothes smelled like cig smoke now? Goin’ in to hiding.


7 posted on 03/25/2014 7:49:39 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Redneck. Race: Daytona 500)
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To: Rusty0604

Its a shame whats happened to NatGeo. Like so many other institutions it ain’t the magazine it used to be.


8 posted on 03/25/2014 7:49:43 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: mmichaels1970

And lawsuits like mesothelioma and union workers payouts.


9 posted on 03/25/2014 7:49:47 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

I confess that the first thing I did when I read the headline was to check if this was from a satire site.

It should be.


10 posted on 03/25/2014 7:50:10 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Rusty0604

I’m still looking for solid evidence that second hand smoke is dangerous to anyone other than your cat.


11 posted on 03/25/2014 7:50:51 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: babygene
What’s next? Fourth hand smoke I suppose...

That's the smoke that studies like this blow up your arse.
12 posted on 03/25/2014 7:51:06 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Rusty0604; Gabz; Madame Dufarge

The beat goes on——and on——and on.

.


13 posted on 03/25/2014 7:54:14 AM PDT by Mears
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To: Rusty0604

I smoke cigars. My smoke shop has a lounge where guys congregate. One of them is a surgeon. He’s there every day. He says it relaxes him and 2nd hand smoke danger is bologna. That’s enough for me.


14 posted on 03/25/2014 7:55:23 AM PDT by albie
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

bump


15 posted on 03/25/2014 7:56:04 AM PDT by Mears
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To: Rusty0604

They just don’t know when to stop, do they?


16 posted on 03/25/2014 7:57:59 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: Rusty0604

Oh good grief!!! We are all gonna die of something. These liberals love dreamin up stuff to keep people in a state of fear.


17 posted on 03/25/2014 7:58:06 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: cuban leaf
I’m still looking for solid evidence that second hand smoke is dangerous to anyone other than your cat.

If I'm not mistaken, I saw it here a couple years ago, that to be able to inhale the equivalent of ONE cigarette by sitting next to someone smoking, that you'd have to sit there for 48 straight hours.

They just don't know when to stop.

18 posted on 03/25/2014 8:00:45 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: cuban leaf

I don’t know if it is dangerous or coincidence or what, but I had 2 parents that were smokers and smoked in the house and I always lagged in endurance activities vs my peers growing up. I was strong and pretty athletic, but always ran out of breath.


19 posted on 03/25/2014 8:03:26 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: Rusty0604
OSHA will soon issue guidelines for emptying ashtrays at places like Joe's Bar and Grill:


20 posted on 03/25/2014 8:05:26 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: albie

Ha...friend of ours knew a smoking heart surgeon...asked him why he smoked...His response...”you wouldn’t want me doing heart surgery on you if I didn’t. “


21 posted on 03/25/2014 8:09:37 AM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: cuban leaf

There’s evidence that it’s dangerous to my cat?


22 posted on 03/25/2014 8:10:20 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: laweeks

You’re assuming stopping will occur. The left’s pursuit of “victims” and hand wringing over “injustices” will never stop, it’s who they are and all they are.


23 posted on 03/25/2014 8:13:29 AM PDT by WinMod70
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To: Rusty0604

And yet the putative negative effects of second hand smoke have been completely debunked:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielfisher/2013/12/12/study-finds-no-link-between-secondhand-smoke-and-cancer/


24 posted on 03/25/2014 8:14:15 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: wolfman23601

The smokers don’t want to hear that, let’s see if they answer you.


25 posted on 03/25/2014 8:14:15 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: laweeks

Yep. It’s all about PPM. And the ppm in a single puff inhaled from a cigarrette is staggering compared to what you get in a smoke filled bar.

And here’s the thing: All of your ograns that are used to clean the air, liquid and food you ingest are like a big HVAC system. As long as you use it within its design parameters you are golden. You are only in trouble when you overtax it (e.g. smoking or drunken stupor) or ingest chemicals that it is not designed to handle (e.g. antifreeze or cyanide).

FWIW, I say this as someone who hates cigarrette smoke.


26 posted on 03/25/2014 8:24:11 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Rusty0604

There’s evidence that it’s dangerous to my cat?


Yes.

The only studies that I ever saw that could qualify and quantify damage done via second hand smoke ALL involved cats.

Keep in mind that I have not read every single study out there, though.


27 posted on 03/25/2014 8:25:34 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Rusty0604
And I'm still waiting to hear how tobacco smoke is so bad but pot smoke isn't.

For the same reason that pot is bad but alcohol isn't. Nanny staters think their own poisons are fine but everything else should be criminalized.

28 posted on 03/25/2014 8:29:59 AM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: Rusty0604

I’m much more concerned about 5th-hand smoke, whereinwhich any tobacco plant exists anywhere in the universe.

BAN 5TH-HAND SMOKE NOW!


29 posted on 03/25/2014 8:34:55 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Rusty0604
Maybe it isn't the smoke so much as the chemicals in the fabrics, degenerating cushioning materials, the wood, vinyl, etc. Maybe the smoke even mitigates the effects of all that other stuff...

Like third-hand perfume, or hand lotion or any of a host of other substances...

30 posted on 03/25/2014 8:40:39 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: albie

Second hand smoke hysteria is clearly artificial and was ginned up as a way to justify health nazis pushing people whose habits they find offensive around.

Their thirst for power is insatiable and they will look for any pretext to exercise it.


31 posted on 03/25/2014 8:41:52 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (In the long run, we are all dead.)
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To: RightOnTheBorder

ditto that.


32 posted on 03/25/2014 8:42:51 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Ditter

I am a part-time closet smoker now myself, just being honest. I don’t think walking past someone smoking a cigarette is going to hurt you. I don’t even think being in a smoking bar for a few hours will do anything to you, but I definitely think being a non smoker living full-time in a house full of smokers has an effect over time. I step outside for my cigs.


33 posted on 03/25/2014 8:45:56 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: albie

I might stop by sometime.

All Good to You and Yours....


34 posted on 03/25/2014 8:56:24 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Mears
If there's anything risky to health, it's this crap sandwich of an article. It's full of weasel words like "might" and "may" and quotes from various "expert" grant junkies.

If this thing is representative of the quality of articles now appearing in National Geographic, I imagine they must have also replaced their once quality photography with primitive stick figures and childishly drawn wavy drawings of mountains and such.

But considering who's been twice elected President, the moronic public will soon obediently be screeching that "the science is settled!" and calling for laws to be passed to charge all smokers, past and present, with attempted murder.

The stupid is everywhere.

35 posted on 03/25/2014 8:56:42 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Rusty0604

Seems to me a recent study said that second hand smoke was not harmful despite years of our government saying it was. Frankly, if second hand or third hand smoke was so bad, I should be dead. During my college years I worked part time in a pool hall to get spending money. There were days the smoke haze was so dense it hung around the top of the tables. The situation finally got so bad even the smokers complained and the owner was forced to put in an exhaust fan. I still remember the smell on my clothes and my tongue feeling like I licked an ash tray when I went home.


36 posted on 03/25/2014 8:58:44 AM PDT by Boomer One
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To: Rusty0604
Hotel workers who sweep, vacuum, change linens, and dust the rooms of smokers

I haven't been in a hotel that allows smoking in years.

37 posted on 03/25/2014 9:01:07 AM PDT by razorback-bert (Due to the high price of ammo, no warning shot will be fired.)
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To: Rusty0604

But marijuana smoke, 1st, 2nd or 3rd hand is good. Or so we are to take as the gospel from the pro-marijuana/anti-tobacco folks.


38 posted on 03/25/2014 9:05:54 AM PDT by GreyFriar ( Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: wolfman23601

Who knows really? I come from a family of smokers as well, and all 6 of us kids had NO health issues related to smoke.

I’m laughing that these morons just know how to play all the freakin idiots they’ve groomed.

As a side note; my little sister was a track champion in HS, even with all that deadly smoke swirling around our home. My brother was a state champ gymnast with all that smoke hanging around the house!

This isn’t pointed at you wolf, just my general comments to share.


39 posted on 03/25/2014 9:09:14 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: wolfman23601

Almost ever time I respond to a smoking thread I am sorry that I did (not you). They are convinced that it is all about control. The only thing I want to control is the air I breathe into my lungs. I will avoid smokers ever chance I get, not control them, AVOID them.


40 posted on 03/25/2014 9:10:15 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Rusty0604; Revolting cat!

Third hand smoke. Sounds contagious!!!


41 posted on 03/25/2014 9:18:09 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Also serious is ‘Fourth Hand Smoke’. This is where a neighbor down the street smokes in his home and you are so worried about it that it causes you health problems. Similar to ‘Fifth Hand Smoke’ where someone on another continent...etc.


42 posted on 03/25/2014 9:38:56 AM PDT by Voltage
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To: Voltage; Revolting cat!; GeronL
Also serious is ‘Fourth Hand Smoke’. This is where a neighbor down the street smokes in his home and you are so worried about it that it causes you health problems. Similar to ‘Fifth Hand Smoke’ where someone on another continent...etc.

I recall such a case:


43 posted on 03/25/2014 9:42:04 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: albie

Bologna is probably worse for you.

I haven’t read the piece yet, but bedbugs are the best reason to be careful of used furniture.


44 posted on 03/25/2014 9:43:48 AM PDT by crazycatlady
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To: Rusty0604

Yeah, but what about twenty-eighth-hand smoke?


45 posted on 03/25/2014 10:01:21 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Boomer One

The outcome of “studies” depends on who is paying for it.


46 posted on 03/25/2014 10:08:43 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: razorback-bert

I think the gist of the article is that is a hotel did allow smoking 20-30 years ago, the workers can sue for hazardous conditions. It will help balance out the greedy hotel owners and their poor workers.


47 posted on 03/25/2014 10:11:37 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Ditter

The bans on smoking in bars came about because the workers were exposed to second hand smoke. Instead of having your attitude and just working someplace else if they wanted to avoid smokers, the nannies just banned the rest of the population from smoking. If there were a big demand for non-smoking bars, that would have been a great business opportunity if the free market were allowed to operate.


48 posted on 03/25/2014 10:16:47 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Madame Dufarge
For:

Chow for paragraph eater.

But considering who's been twice elected President...The stupid is everywhere.

Fight the Free Sh☭t Nation

49 posted on 03/25/2014 10:16:51 AM PDT by Mycroft Holmes (<= Mash name for HTML Xampp PHP C JavaScript primer. Programming for everyone.)
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To: goodnesswins
Ha...friend of ours knew a smoking heart surgeon...asked him why he smoked...His response...”you wouldn’t want me doing heart surgery on you if I didn’t. “

That's why they still allow airline pilots to smoke in the cockpit.

50 posted on 03/25/2014 10:21:03 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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