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MH370 pilot upset over wife's decision to move out and in 'no state of mind to be flying' ...
The Daily Mail Online ^ | March 25, 2014 | ANDREW CHESTERTON and RICHARD SHEARS

Posted on 03/25/2014 7:17:19 PM PDT by Uncle Chip

'Last joyride'

The pilot of doomed flight MH370 was devastated over his wife’s decision to move out of their family home, and could have taken the plane for a ‘last joyride’ before it crashed into the southern Indian Ocean killing all 239 people on board, says a long-time friend of the pilot.

The friend, also a pilot, said Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah didn’t appear to be in the right state of mind to be flying, warning that it was ‘very possible that neither the passengers nor the other crew on-board knew what was happening until it was too late’.

‘He's one of the finest pilots around and I'm no medical expert, but with all that was happening in his life Zaharie was probably in no state of mind to be flying,’ he told the NZ Herald on the condition of anonymity.

The friend said the pilot's relationships were breaking down, with Captain Shah involved with another woman and his wife having decided to move out of their family home.

He said the pilot could have seen MH370 as an opportunity to try high-risk maneuvers he'd perfected on his beloved flight simulator.

These shocking new claims follow reports that flight MH370 climbed to between 43,000 and 45,000ft shortly after the last voice communication from the cockpit of the plane.

A source, who wished to remain anonymous, told MailOnline: 'It was tracked flying at this altitude for 23 minutes before descending. Oxygen would have run out in 12 minutes [in a depressurised cabin], rendering the passengers unconscious.'...

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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To: Greysard

Sounds to me like another red herring of the many excuses posited.


41 posted on 03/25/2014 8:41:14 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: W.Lee

Let’s see if they find any floating debris on the surface, find or at least hear the CVR and/or FDR, and see if sonar detects the wreckage at the bottom of 23,000 feet of water.


42 posted on 03/25/2014 8:42:50 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: beebuster2000

So who is down at the South Pole?


43 posted on 03/25/2014 8:43:33 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

no one, but by setting autopilot for south pole he knew the plane would stay in level flight until it ran out of gas. then he killed himself.


44 posted on 03/25/2014 8:53:49 PM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: Jack Hydrazine

the south pole still has the secret nazi airbase from ww2.


45 posted on 03/25/2014 8:54:23 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (We should not fear our government. Our government should fear us.)
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To: bravo whiskey
the south pole still has the secret nazi airbase from ww2.

Actually, there are two of them, the other is owned by George Soros. And, as a retired general expert said on television, the distance from the Kuala Lumpur to Beijing is the same as the distance from Kuala Lumpur to those airbases.

46 posted on 03/25/2014 8:57:40 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: Girlene

Here’s the question I have about that:

After the first hairpin turn off course, what direction was the pane headed?

Because that wasn’t, I don’t think the same, direction as it eventually went.


47 posted on 03/25/2014 9:02:19 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Uncle Chip

“This last bit of sudden certainty seems an attempt to make it all go away. Its still liable to show up on a runway in Pakistan or something.”

No, it’s the result of some mathematical data from INMARSAT that indicates this airplane was flying away and in a southerly direction from its satellite at this time. It’s not 100% but it is hugely indicative. The airplane has not turned up on any military or civilian radar sets to the north, nor any airports that could support it, nor has any wreckage been found in any parts north on dry land. Probability and likelihood say it is not to the north but rather to the south. Nothing to indicate otherwise right now.

“From what I understand in the Muslim culture its a sin to commit suicide, but as long as you do it for Allah and Jihad its all good..”

It’s about personal rationalization. No two people rationalize their circumstance or situation the exact same way. This airplane appears to have been flown competently through it’s final turn south into the Indian Ocean. Be this a pilot or crew member aboard the plane purposely doing this maybe the act of suicide could be rationalized by also taking 200 or so non-believers down with you.

“sets the auto-pilot for the Roaring 40s, takes off his mask and goes to sleep. Hard to prove suicide at those depths.”

Pure conjecture, but the last person in the cockpit (pilot, crew member, hijacker) sets the final course into the deep dark Indian and then downs a bottle of sleeping pills and a jug of vodka. They are killing themselves and in the process making sure the entire airplane goes down too. No one left to steer the airplane to a landing place.

Just a thought. Not an assertion.

The plane and the people on it are gone.


48 posted on 03/25/2014 9:03:51 PM PDT by FAA
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To: Revolting cat!

So this guy is getting on an airliner and the guy he’s sitting next to has a black eye. He asks him, “what happened to you”? and the guy says, “well, the girl at the ticket counter was a real babe, built really well, and when she asked me what I wanted, I said a one-way picket to titsburg”. “She acted all offended and hauled off and hit me”.

After telling his story the guy said, “you know, you’re one to talk. You have two black eyes and swollen lip. What happened to you?” The guy who had taken the seat said, “same thing as you......I was at the breakfast table and I meant to ask my wife, Honey please pass me the post toasties, and instead it came out...............you bitch, you’ve ruined my life!!!!”


49 posted on 03/25/2014 9:06:27 PM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: Uncle Chip

The information on the satellite tracking of the plane, at least explained by some “expert” on Hannity tonight, was highly suspect - apparently the tracking was done from a geosynchronous satellite, with the distance from it to the plane and the plane’s direction being determined by the timing and Doppler of the seven or eight pings picked up by the satellite over the length of the flight - the plot of such tracking should then be a target of rings with the satellite in the center and the distances to the plane represented by the radii of the rings - but the track of the plane which was depicted in the demonstration tonight was that which has been shown in the press for days - a single arc beginning around Malaysia and ending in the middle of the Indian Ocean - this would mean the plane would have had to have flown for five to eight hour at exactly the same distance from the satellite all the way - highly unlikely - there’s also some vague discussion of comparing some sort of patterns of known flights to those picked up with 370, and thus being able to rule out the northern flight path, which of course would have also been possible by continuing the southern arc northward on around the satellite, but it’s not really obvious by what’s public just how those comparisons would work - by this data, it’s not convincing at all that the plane is down in the southern Indian Ocean....


50 posted on 03/25/2014 9:17:04 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: beebuster2000

Suicide is wrong in Islam, regardless. No 72 virgins, just Hell.


51 posted on 03/25/2014 9:28:16 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Intolerant in NJ

Oh, God.

Yes, it is. From mathematical data it has been shown to have flown south from their satellite and not north. That is why, by the way, it has not crossed any radar set to the north, or landed at any airport to the north that can handle it, or, slammed into any target of choice in any arc north of their in the last two weeks.

It’s pretty clear that it is gone. In the Indian Ocean. Why or who we don’t know but the “where” is pretty clear now. It’s not good, but it is what it is.

Damn crying shame too...


52 posted on 03/25/2014 9:30:34 PM PDT by FAA
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To: BenLurkin

I don’t know. If the plane is where they think it is, it’s going to be really hard to find the black box to help fill in the blanks.


53 posted on 03/25/2014 9:44:20 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: Greysard

Supposedly Shah got a call from a woman using a SIM card that was obtained using a false ID - the “other” woman calling it off after he’d left his family for her? That might be upsetting.

Another ‘theory’ .... he was politically active, supposedly upset over the court verdict in the morning. He hijacked the plane to use it/passengers as leverage to get the Malaysians to release the opposition leader. This might explain why he flew around ..... was talking to the Malaysian government. It might also explain why the Malaysian government has given out false and/or misleading info - seems to be hiding something. Can you imagine the anger if the families/China found out Malaysia refused to bargain & everyone died because of it? Yikes. If Malaysia called Shah’s bluff, plus with the ‘other woman’ scenario, I can see him ditching the plane. He would have had to incapacitate the co-pilot in this scenario, IMO.


54 posted on 03/25/2014 9:46:17 PM PDT by Qiviut (It's hard to be a donk if you're sane & it's hard to be a pubbie if you have any integrity.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Kind of makes sense when you factor in the “mystery phone call”. Is this what people say the Malaysian government is covering up?


55 posted on 03/25/2014 9:50:46 PM PDT by McGruff (They say the first casualty of war is truth)
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To: Uncle Chip

All conjecture.


56 posted on 03/25/2014 9:52:25 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Uncle Chip

I think there is something -very- basic about the information we are assuming that is just plain -wrong-. All the communications. All the radar info. All the ADIS data. Everything. Something there is just wrong.

I agree with this. I also think the pilot was Muslim only in name. His wife wore jeans and had her hair down. Basically secular middle class types typical of the developing world. His politics were also Western.

I don’t buy suicide and they haven’t found anything. The ocean is big but they have covered a lot of ground to not find anything, and some classified satellite systems surely would have picked something up.

“Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.”


57 posted on 03/25/2014 10:15:11 PM PDT by sunrise_sunset
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To: FAA

Are you privy to the details of this mathematical data ? Otherwise it could easily be hocus pocus. I work in math and it is very easy to massage numbers.


58 posted on 03/25/2014 10:18:16 PM PDT by sunrise_sunset
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To: Uncle Chip; Yosemitest; Tzfat; saywhatagain; All
This scenario makes sense, and fits the Occam's Razor test. I'm not saying it's the only possible scenario, but it fits the facts closely, unlike the cockpit fire scenario. And it's simple.

He was rejected by his wife, and possibly by his mistress (got a call from someone just before the flight). His friend says he didn't seem like himself, and shouldn't have been flying.

His retirement fund may have been heavily invested in Malaysia Airlines stock, which had declined about 90 percent in the past few years (or so I hear). Business Week says:

"...Long before one of its Boeing (BA) jumbo jets vanished into the tropical darkness, Malaysia Airlines was struggling to find its financial footing. The carrier has lost money for more than three years, beset by high costs, a proliferation of unprofitable new flying in its network, and two low-cost rivals at its home airport in Kuala Lumpur..."

According to the same Business Week article, Malaysia Airlines has lost more than 1.2 billion in the last three years. The captain was concerned about the viability of his company (bankruptcy, losing his job, jeopardizing his retirement plans). This alone wasn't enough to make him snap, but it was a contributing factor.

Let's analyze this scenario. He could have taken out the copilot with one blow from the cockpit crash ax, timed for right after the sign-off call to Malaysian ATC.

He turned off course, turned off the emitting ADS-B and transponder, and maybe the ACARS (but didn't get out of his seat to pull the circuit breakers for the SATCOM). He ran up the cabin to 25,000 feet or more manually, and made a PA announcement of a mechanical problem as the oxygen masks deployed automatically at about 14,000 feet cabin altitude. The flight attendants had the passengers stay in their seats, on oxygen. The passengers couldn't leave their seats or they'd pass out almost immediately (if they didn't already as he ran up the cabin altitude). After 20 minutes max, the cabin oxygen generators exhausted, and the last of the passengers passed out and then died. The flight attendants either died with a mask on or used the walkaround bottles to try to survive, but even this was not enough if the cabin was very high, especially if they were exerting themselves by moving around the cabin.

Everyone but the Captain could have been dead or near death by 30 minutes after his initial off-course maneuvering, even without running the cabin up to extremes, above 30,000 feet.

After a few more turns, possibly intending to confuse the ATC primary and military radars, he set the course for the south and eventually passed out himself from too high of a cabin altitude with oxygen, or simply removed his own oxygen and went to sleep. Or maybe he stayed awake for several hours, but I doubt it.

The airplane flew on autopilot until it ran out of fuel, then plunged into the ocean.

Game over.

I think they should run this (last part) scenario in the simulator to see what the attitude of the airplane was at impact. The airplane probably descended slowly after the first engine flamed out, maintaining course. It didn't crash until the second engine flamed out, but I think the generators would have dropped off line and the autopilot would have disconnected, even though there might have been windmilling hydraulics that otherwise could have enabled the flight controls. I doubt it impacted in a landing attitude, since the wreckage would have been more intact and there would have been quite a bit of floating debris - and if the airplane had floated for a time the ELT's would have been picked up by satellite. Once they submerged, they soon quit working, and only the ULB is still emitting -- and only for another couple of weeks.

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Business Week: Malaysia Airlines Has Been Missing Profits for Years

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-03-24/malaysia-airlines-was-in-trouble-long-before-flight-370

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Time of Useful Consciousness (no supplemental oxygen):

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15,000 feet: 30 minutes or more

18,000 feet: 20-30 minutes

22,000 feet: 5-10 minutes

25,000 feet: 3-5 minutes

28,000 feet: 2.5-3 minutes

30,000 feet: 1-3 minutes

35,000 feet: 30-60 seconds

40,000 feet: 15-20 seconds

45,000 feet: 9-15 seconds

http://www.theairlinepilots.com/medical/decompressionandhypoxia.htm

59 posted on 03/25/2014 10:30:06 PM PDT by zipper ("The Second Amendment IS my carry permit!" -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Jonty30
From the height of the plane, to the ocean, it would only take somebody a few seconds to hit the water.

I believe that the newer planes like the 777 they have made it impossible to open the cabin doors in flight.

60 posted on 03/25/2014 10:56:07 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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