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A planet past Pluto? Astronomers redefine the solar system's edge
FoxNews.com ^ | March 26, 2014/

Posted on 03/26/2014 1:03:22 PM PDT by BenLurkin

Scientists at the Carnegie Carnegie Institution for Science announced Wednesday the discovery of a new cosmic neighbor -- a distant dwarf planet named 2012 VP113 that was found spinning in the depths of space well past Pluto. Its existence suggests there may be another actual planet out there, they said, a rogue giant ten times bigger than Earth orbiting in the distant blackness

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TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: 2012vp113; asteroid; catastrophism; dwarfplanet; kbo; minorplanet; pinkplanet; xplanets
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1 posted on 03/26/2014 1:03:22 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: SunkenCiv
Funny thing.

I thought it was "Settled Science" that there is NO rogue planet orbiting in the distant blackness

2 posted on 03/26/2014 1:05:26 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: SpinnerWebb; KoRn; BikerJoe; Steve_Seattle

ping


3 posted on 03/26/2014 1:08:27 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Well if there is I say it gets name planet Palin. You can’t get much more ‘Rogue’ than that!


4 posted on 03/26/2014 1:09:01 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: BenLurkin

It’s not a planet and it’s not the first object of that size discovered beyond Plto. In fact the other object is larger. We’re finding these planetoids now because our ability to find such objects is just now reaching maturity.


5 posted on 03/26/2014 1:12:02 PM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: saganite

“It’s not a planetoid. It’s a Space Station.”


6 posted on 03/26/2014 1:16:04 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: massgopguy

That isn’t a moon...


7 posted on 03/26/2014 1:17:31 PM PDT by null and void ( Everything evil in the world may not be Islamic but everything Islamic is evil.)
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To: BenLurkin

Awwww Gee Not This Shyt Again!!! I have been hearing since I was a kid that there is a Planet X, there isn’t a Planet X and now again there might possibly is a Planet X! Anyone got a low mileage used Klingon Bird of Prey out there so I can settle this mess?


8 posted on 03/26/2014 1:17:32 PM PDT by Trueblackman (As a Conservative, I am proud to be on the Obama's enemy list and on the right side of history..)
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To: BenLurkin; SunkenCiv

One thing is clear: Astronomers will have to rethink the cosmic limits of our solar system.

I am working with a group of youth, preparing them for Confirmation. Last week we set off to explore the universe. One interesting piece of information we discussed comes from NASA.

According to NASA, more is unknown than is known. We know how much dark energy there is because we know how it affects the Universe's expansion. Other than that, it is a complete mystery. But it is an important mystery. It turns out that roughly 68% of the Universe is dark energy. Dark matter makes up about 27%. The rest - everything on Earth, everything ever observed with all of our instruments, all normal matter - adds up to less than 5% of the Universe. When it comes to the oceans, we know only 3%.
Nothing is "Settle Science".
9 posted on 03/26/2014 1:20:34 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: BenLurkin

10 posted on 03/26/2014 1:23:14 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: BenLurkin; SunkenCiv

I just checked and the Voyagers are out 127 and 104 AU now, so well past this guy.


11 posted on 03/26/2014 1:24:31 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: BenLurkin

So Cool!


12 posted on 03/26/2014 1:24:43 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a classical Christian approach to homeschool])
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To: BenLurkin

Earlier on FR:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3137614/posts

this was also cool:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3137613/posts


13 posted on 03/26/2014 1:24:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/alreadyposted/index)
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To: massgopguy

According to one article the discoverers are having a little fun with the designation VP113. They’re calling it Joe Biden. Apropos I think since it’s a dwarf and orbits so far from the center of things.


14 posted on 03/26/2014 1:25:30 PM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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Thanks BenLurkin. Just adding, not pinging.
 
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15 posted on 03/26/2014 1:25:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/alreadyposted/index)
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To: BenLurkin

The term “settled science” is a political term in the current parlance; it used to refer to things like those erosion experiments in science class, or the use of vacuum to make water boil without heating it.

I remember in the latter example, one of my fellow corn-fed farm boys said, “how do you know he isn’t heating that from below?”


16 posted on 03/26/2014 1:28:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/alreadyposted/index)
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related article:

Distant new world may point to undiscovered planets in solar system
Today’s discovery of dwarf planet 2012 VP113 suggests that many planet-sized worlds lurk undetected beyond the orbit of Pluto, maybe even a giant ‘Super Earth’
http://www.theguardian.com/science/across-the-universe/2014/mar/26/planets-solar-system-2012-vp113-dwarf-planet-super-earth


17 posted on 03/26/2014 1:29:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/alreadyposted/index)
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To: Kartographer
Well if there is I say it gets name planet Palin. You can’t get much more ‘Rogue’ than that!
I'm thinking Chong, 'cause it's so far out man.
18 posted on 03/26/2014 1:30:30 PM PDT by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: NYer

Thanks NYer. One of the traps people from all walks wander themselves into is the false idea that knowledge is complete. :’)


19 posted on 03/26/2014 1:31:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/alreadyposted/index)
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To: dblshot
I'm thinking Chong, 'cause it's so far out man.

Hmmmm... the home planet of the Choom Gang? I always thought he was an alien, but the illegal kind not the extraterrestrial kind!
20 posted on 03/26/2014 1:33:51 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: BenLurkin

“Planet?”

If Pluto can’t have that designation, then NOBODY new gets it.


21 posted on 03/26/2014 1:34:16 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: BenLurkin

The science of what is causing wobbles in Uranus’s orbit has never been solved, for years some have been saying there is an unseen gas giant that has to accounts for these wobbles, dwarf planets and Oort Cloud Objects are just too small for this.


22 posted on 03/26/2014 1:35:05 PM PDT by Trueblackman (As a Conservative, I am proud to be on the Obama's enemy list and on the right side of history..)
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To: NYer

So that’s where the projector is!!!

Simulations back up theory that Universe is a hologram

http://www.nature.com/news/simulations-back-up-theory-that-universe-is-a-hologram-1.14328


23 posted on 03/26/2014 1:35:34 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: NYer

Gee, the new planet looks like a big red arrow.


24 posted on 03/26/2014 1:43:50 PM PDT by eCSMaster ("It is not the color of his skin, ... it is the blackness that fills his soul")
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To: NYer

Some in the scientific community would be much better served if they were up front about how much we don’t know about almost everything. But no one ever got a grant or published a book talking about all the things we don’t know (and may never know).


25 posted on 03/26/2014 1:48:07 PM PDT by Lou Budvis
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To: Trueblackman

tiny quibble, the wobble was seen in Neptune; there are those who believe that a short series of observations more than a century old should just be thrown out. IMHO they probably indicate an undiscovered body moving in retrograde or more or less perpendicular to the ecliptic.


26 posted on 03/26/2014 1:52:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/alreadyposted/index)
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To: Trueblackman

Wobbles in Uranus? Ewww, stop that!


27 posted on 03/26/2014 1:54:48 PM PDT by namvolunteer (Obama says the US is subservient to the UN and the Constitution does not apply. That is treason.r)
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To: colorado tanker

Thanks ct. They’ve probably discovered this new one on the way in, it’ll swing round and head back out, and in no time be out beyond both Voyagers. :’)


28 posted on 03/26/2014 2:07:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/alreadyposted/index)
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To: BenLurkin
I thought it was "Settled Science" that there is NO rogue planet orbiting in the distant blackness

Um, no. A definive count of objects in our solar system has never been settled science. But nice try.

29 posted on 03/26/2014 2:08:35 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: eCSMaster

If you get close enough it says “Eat at Joes”.


30 posted on 03/26/2014 2:10:25 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: BenLurkin

I thought Pluto had been demoted from planet status.


31 posted on 03/26/2014 2:10:35 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Exactly and I think this body also from time to time knocks object out of the Oorit Cloud and sends them hurling into our system as comets.


32 posted on 03/26/2014 2:16:52 PM PDT by Trueblackman (As a Conservative, I am proud to be on the Obama's enemy list and on the right side of history..)
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To: eCSMaster
No, the interstellar crossing signal next to the arrow-

33 posted on 03/26/2014 2:22:16 PM PDT by mikrofon (Planet X-ing)
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To: BenLurkin

Does anybody know how to contact Zecharia Sitchin?


34 posted on 03/26/2014 2:24:41 PM PDT by Savage Beast (Hubris and denial overwhelm Western Civilization. Nemesis and tragedy always follow.)
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To: Trueblackman

Are you saying there is a gas giant near.... never mind.


35 posted on 03/26/2014 2:32:40 PM PDT by spudville
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To: Trueblackman

I don’t think there is an Oort cloud.


36 posted on 03/26/2014 2:33:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/alreadyposted/index)
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To: Drew68

“A definive count of objects in our solar system has never been settled science. But nice try. “

Perhaps there is a consensus.


37 posted on 03/26/2014 2:35:24 PM PDT by spudville
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To: BenLurkin

Hmmmmmm.... Maybe there are UFO’s and aliens from space. If this is the pink planet may the aliens are all guy.


38 posted on 03/26/2014 2:36:32 PM PDT by Vinylly (?)
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To: BenLurkin

She came from Planet Claire.
I knew she came from there.
She drove a Plymouth Satellite.
She drove it faster than the speed of light.


39 posted on 03/26/2014 2:39:04 PM PDT by sauron ("Truth is hate to those who hate Truth" --unknown)
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To: spudville

No I don’t think it is a gas giant more like a unseen ice covered rocky planet that orbits on a different plane.


40 posted on 03/26/2014 2:41:35 PM PDT by Trueblackman (As a Conservative, I am proud to be on the Obama's enemy list and on the right side of history..)
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To: SunkenCiv

Okay maybe I misspelled it then, a cloud of ice covered rocks that are beyond Pluto.


41 posted on 03/26/2014 2:43:14 PM PDT by Trueblackman (As a Conservative, I am proud to be on the Obama's enemy list and on the right side of history..)
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To: Trueblackman

That is the correct spelling, but as I said, I don’t think it exists. It’s never been observed. There’s also the Kuiper Belt, which appears to be at least somewhat real, and includes the large minor planets (which now is said to include Pluto).


42 posted on 03/26/2014 2:45:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/alreadyposted/index)
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To: spudville
Perhaps there is a consensus.

The consensus among astronomers is that they don't know what's out there and that technological advances in the field regularly lead to new discoveries.

No reputable scientist or group of scientists have ever said "There is nothing left to discover." Perhaps this is type of ignorance spewed by biblical creationists, but not science.

43 posted on 03/26/2014 3:05:48 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68

Planet X myth debunked

By Jean-Louis Santini
March 15, 2014 11:06 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/planet-x-myth-debunked-030652774.html


44 posted on 03/26/2014 3:23:11 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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45 posted on 03/26/2014 3:41:14 PM PDT by Hatteras
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To: sauron

Was she from the Ford Galaxy?


46 posted on 03/26/2014 3:43:32 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: BenLurkin

Ah yes...Scientists. The very people who WASTE MONEY chasing places that are beyond us, that they have NO real knowledge of..rather than focus their ambitions on things of value...like healing the planet we live on...and asserting themselves to being smarter than a chemical compound.


47 posted on 03/26/2014 4:34:52 PM PDT by ourworldawry
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To: Drew68

I’ve never heard anything of the sort from a creationist. Please site your source.


48 posted on 03/26/2014 5:09:34 PM PDT by spudville
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To: Trueblackman

Yes thats true. Planet X was what it was referred to a year when I was young. This little 2012 VP113 isn’t big enough to account for the perturbation thats being observed I don’t think. Which is probably why this article refers to the still unknown larger planet.

This is exciting stuff.


49 posted on 03/26/2014 5:30:12 PM PDT by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: Hatteras

http://www.johnspeedie.com/healy/yoy.wav


50 posted on 03/26/2014 7:51:17 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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