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The Coming Paradigm Shift on Climate: Evidence suggests that Nature rules the climate not Man.
American Thinker ^ | 03/27/2014 | S. Fred Singer

Posted on 03/27/2014 6:56:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The just-published NIPCC reports may lead to a paradigm shift about what or who causes current climate changes. All the evidence suggests that Nature rules the climate – not Man.

Watch for it: We may be on the threshold of a tipping point in climate history. No, I’m not talking about a tipping point in the sense that the Earth will be covered with ice or become hellishly hot. I’m talking about a tipping point in our views of what controls the climate -- whether it’s mainly humans or whether it’s mainly natural. It makes an enormous difference in climate policy: Do we try to mitigate, at huge cost, or do we merely adapt to natural changes -- as our ancestors did for many millennia?

Such tipping points occur quite frequently in science. I have personally witnessed two paradigm shifts where world scientific opinion changed rapidly -- almost overnight. One was in Cosmology, where the “Steady State” theory of the Universe was replaced by the “Big Bang.” This shift was confirmed by the discovery of the “microwave background radiation,” which has already garnered Nobel prizes, and will likely get more.

The other major shift occurred in Continental Drift. After being denounced by the Science Establishment, the hypothesis of Alfred Wegener, initially based on approximate relations between South America and Africa, was dramatically confirmed by the discovery of “sea-floor spreading.”

These shifts were possible because there were no commercial or financial interests -- and they did not involve the public and politicians. But climate is a different animal: The financial stakes are huge -- in the trillions of dollars, and affect energy policy, and indeed the economic wellbeing of every inhabitant of the developed and developing world.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Science; Society; Weather
KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalwarming; nature; weather

1 posted on 03/27/2014 6:56:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Sun!


2 posted on 03/27/2014 6:57:56 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Progressive is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh, no, I can see the look on AlGore’s face now.


3 posted on 03/27/2014 6:59:51 AM PDT by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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To: SeekAndFind

Shocking! /s

Algore is gonna explode.


4 posted on 03/27/2014 7:00:00 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: b4its2late

There are a few people who will owe me abject apologies if this ever comes to pass. I’m not holding my breath waiting for the paradigm shift, let alone the apologies.


5 posted on 03/27/2014 7:01:07 AM PDT by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: SeekAndFind

I was watching the History Channel (or one of its clones) yesterday, and it was about the “Little Ice Age” that occurred in the Medieval period.

The entire program had an alarmist tone and kept questioning: “COULD THIS HAPPEN AGAIN??????”

I think it is the beginning of the media’s attempt to weasel itself out of the “Globull Warming” HOAX.


6 posted on 03/27/2014 7:02:25 AM PDT by left that other site
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To: SeekAndFind

7 posted on 03/27/2014 7:08:27 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: SeekAndFind

Singer is an absolute Wiz when it comes to Climate Change. But I’m afraid he remains a bit naive in the realm of politics. The Al Gore Ministry is not going to fold easily. I personally give it at least another 20 years of life. Sad to say.


8 posted on 03/27/2014 7:09:44 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: SeekAndFind

Memo 5467-ag73

The newspeak version 73 term shall henceforth be, “catastrophic climate disruption.” This memo supercedes the terms global warming and climate change.

Thank you for your attention.

Time to dust off the ozone hole.


9 posted on 03/27/2014 7:10:15 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, that’s inconvenient...


10 posted on 03/27/2014 7:14:41 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: SeekAndFind

Man’s contribution to overall CO2 in the atmosphere is 3-4%.
Planting 12% more biomass would TOTALLY consume this miniscule amount of CO2.

But, the leftists want carbon taxes and some worldwide governing body to issue carbon credits, etc.

“The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution” - Alinsky.


11 posted on 03/27/2014 7:18:03 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SeekAndFind

The just-published NIPCC reports...


First time I’ve seen that acronym with an “N” at the front.


12 posted on 03/27/2014 7:18:52 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve ALWAYS been a FIRM BELIEVER in Global Warming, Global Cooling and Climate Change. You’ll never convince me of anything different!

HOWEVER, I can see that “Anthropogenic Global Warming” is political advocacy and not real science!


13 posted on 03/27/2014 7:20:23 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: left that other site
"I was watching the History Channel (or one of its clones) yesterday, and it was about the “Little Ice Age” that occurred in the Medieval period. The entire program had an alarmist tone and kept questioning: “COULD THIS HAPPEN AGAIN??????”

I've been asking global-warming alarmists for years: Would you prefer global cooling? What would THAT entail for our civilization?
14 posted on 03/27/2014 7:23:00 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: SeekAndFind

Heresy!!
Blasphemy!!

WE MUST continue to cram Global Warming down the populaces’ throats! We have tons of sqiggly light bulbs to sell. The ‘green’ industry is a billion billion dollar industry. We must keep the fear alive to feed this industry. How will we sell our biodegradable underwear and our carbon credits and get funding for our solar powered can openers?


15 posted on 03/27/2014 7:23:56 AM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!)
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To: SeekAndFind

File Under, “Duh.”


16 posted on 03/27/2014 7:24:25 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: InterceptPoint

You are right. Too much money in the ‘green’ industry to make it go away anytime soon.


17 posted on 03/27/2014 7:25:37 AM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!)
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To: SeekAndFind

All the evidence suggests that Nature rules the climate – not Man.>>>>>>

Something every one who has not been indoctrinated by the false prophets have always been aware of.


18 posted on 03/27/2014 7:26:30 AM PDT by ravenwolf (ost void of pend)
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To: Oberon

The disciples of this crap are hard to convert.


19 posted on 03/27/2014 7:26:56 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Progressive is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: MrB

I’ve been wanting to set up a pyrolysis unit at my house. About 60-80% of the mass is converted into an oil that I could use to heat the house, most of the rest is left as charcoal that if turned back into the soil greatly increases the fertility of the soil.

A few acres would free me from propane and should make the garden more productive.

It would sequester carbon in the soil permanently, but that is not my purpose.

Theoretically, you could run a diesel engine off the stuff but it contains alot of acids and congeals if not stabilized.


20 posted on 03/27/2014 7:38:04 AM PDT by dangerdoc (pWestboro Bank you should be forced to make the same decision I did even if I know I'm right.)
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To: Organic Panic
Wait a minute!

My memo called it "Stupendous TransClimate Failure"!

21 posted on 03/27/2014 7:38:31 AM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: dangerdoc

That was one method that Steve Harris was thinking would actually be a valid application of solar energy -

parabolically concentrating solar energy on a pyrolysis reactor to produce a burnable oil.


22 posted on 03/27/2014 7:40:32 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: jda

The billion dollar companies that Al Gore owns depend on the myth to stay alive. Al Gore must keep up the hype.

I have to hand it to him. He is a marketing genius.

He perpetuated a myth that now consumes the lives of hipsters all across the land. This myth keeps his billion dollar companies going. It is the biggest marketing scam in the history of mankind and Al Gore rakes in the $millions$ from it every day.

As much as these treehugging hippies hate the ‘capialist machine’, they have based their whole lifestyle on a marketing campaign from a few billionaires.

Man, they love koolaid.


23 posted on 03/27/2014 7:40:44 AM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!)
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To: Steve_Seattle

Indeed! :-)


24 posted on 03/27/2014 7:43:53 AM PDT by left that other site
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To: Oberon
I’m not holding my breath waiting for the paradigm shift, let alone the apologies.

Good move...the buildup of greenhouse gases in your body could kill you.

25 posted on 03/27/2014 7:44:13 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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To: Night Hides Not

On the other hand, actually holding my breath would spare me from the stink of leftist hypocrisy.


26 posted on 03/27/2014 7:46:02 AM PDT by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: Steve_Seattle
"I was watching the History Channel (or one of its clones) yesterday, and it was about the “Little Ice Age” that occurred in the Medieval period. The entire program had an alarmist tone and kept questioning: “COULD THIS HAPPEN AGAIN??????”

That is a great documentary.

As to your last sentence, we may very well be in the beginning of another era of cold weather.

I'm a big fan of global warming. Living in Spokane and Germany for eight years total gave me all the cold weather I could ever desire. Still get our blue northers in Dallas, but they're few and far between.

27 posted on 03/27/2014 7:48:05 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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To: Oberon
Not if you stay indoors. Hey, it's dangerous out there: knock-out games, leftist hypocrisy, identity thieves scanning your butt trying to get your credit card info...

I took care of the last one, bought one of those shielding wallets in December on QVC. lol

28 posted on 03/27/2014 7:50:46 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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To: Night Hides Not

I’m looking forward to Greenland turning green again.


29 posted on 03/27/2014 7:51:44 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: MrB

Wind turbines do warm their local climates: they have a powerful heat island effect similar to a high rise city. Laboratory grade equipment is not needed to detect parts per million changes; a ordinary backyard thermometer can measure it. In the name of global warming, no man-made structure should be built higher than 40 feet. A side benefit is we’d have to demolish our communist high rise cities and their windmill eyesores they always erect in conservative areas.


30 posted on 03/27/2014 7:52:48 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: Army Air Corps
Algore is gonna explode.

Talk about a massive hazmat clean-up!!

31 posted on 03/27/2014 7:59:13 AM PDT by shove_it (my real nickname is Otter)
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To: MrB

Hmmm. I was considering powering with non condensible gas and probably a portion of the bio oil. Solar power would simplify the plumbing considerably.

Thanks, I may actually get this thing going.


32 posted on 03/27/2014 7:59:31 AM PDT by dangerdoc (pWestboro Bank you should be forced to make the same decision I did even if I know I'm right.)
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To: dangerdoc

Buy one of those old, huge satellite dishes and cover the inside with reflective material. Put your pyrolysis reactor at the focal point.


33 posted on 03/27/2014 8:02:26 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: dangerdoc

I don’t think I have to warn you about the dangers of the intense heat at that focal point, right?


34 posted on 03/27/2014 8:03:46 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Star Traveler

Exactly. 70,000 years ago, the spot where I’m sitting was under a thick ice sheet. It’s not there any more (although with this winter, you wonder about its eventual return). Climate scientists, even the legitimate ones, cannot explain why that ice sheet was there, nor can they explain why it melted away. What is clear is that mankind had absolutely nothing to do with it.

One thousand years ago, Vikings raised cattle in Greenland, grapes grew in Scotland, and Labrador of all places was referred to as “Vinland” as grapes were found growing there, too. There is some indication that Chinese seafarers transited the Arctic Ocean about this time. We call this the “Medieval Warm Period,” and the charlatan priests of the church of anthropogenic climate change want to find a way to “get rid of it.” The reason the MWP scares them is that it is too cold today for all of those things.

The climate is changing. And the fascinating thing about the climate is that there are cycles within cycles within even longer cycles. My guess is that we are gradually, longer term, trending warmer, but may be entering an intermediate colder cycle. But I don’t know.

And really, neither do the climatologists. Even the legitimate ones.


35 posted on 03/27/2014 8:07:44 AM PDT by henkster (I don't like bossy women telling me what words I can't use.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s the 1950’s all over again.


36 posted on 03/27/2014 8:17:12 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: SeekAndFind

Don’t think that is going to happen any time soon. AGW (aka: climate change), is a powerful tool in the hands of groups and governments to exploit and control energy production, along with the ability to control economies and populations through energy starvation. Global warming is a shakedown racket and power-grab, nothing more than that.


37 posted on 03/27/2014 8:20:58 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I would like an explanation for the current cold trend. Since last Summer.
Saying “global warming” is not a sufficient answer.
Talking about “cold fronts” from Canada is no explanation.
Saying “the wind is blowing cold air in from the Great Lakes” is no answer.

Of course the weatherjerks won’t answer this. The real reason is we don’t know. The weather and the climate go in cycles. Cold. Warm. Snow. Rain. Sun. Clouds. Repeat.


38 posted on 03/27/2014 8:27:52 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: left that other site
weasel itself out of the “Globull Warming” HOAX.

They'll just move on to something else to try and scare us all to death.

I figure it will be something to do with "Clean Water".

39 posted on 03/27/2014 8:51:02 AM PDT by wbill
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To: SeekAndFind

Won’t happen.

“Anthropogenic Climate Change” servers multiple purposes for the LEft. It is a Religion for the Left, it transfers money from the developed nations to the Kleptocracies of the Third World, and transfers power to national governments, the UN and various NGOs.


40 posted on 03/27/2014 8:57:08 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: MrB

You could but where would the fun be in that.


41 posted on 03/27/2014 9:01:35 AM PDT by dangerdoc (pWestboro Bank you should be forced to make the same decision I did even if I know I'm right.)
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To: wbill

Some of the “Chicken Little” scenarios from the last century:

1. The Coming Ice Age
2. The hole in the Ozone Layer
3. Nothing will ever grow again in that place(Hiroshima, Bikini, Three Mile Island, Chernobyl)
4. Acid Rain
5. Ozone
6. El Nino
7. La Nina
8. Overpopulation
9. Globull warming

Now the threats of these have been abandoned in favor of convincing people that we are all descended from Ancient Aliens who mated with Freemasons,while burying gold in remote locations of north America using Interstellar technology and Druidic Spells while contemplating a marriage between Jesus and Mary Magdeline resulting in offspring who became Templars.


42 posted on 03/27/2014 9:39:02 AM PDT by left that other site
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To: left that other site

Add,

DDT


43 posted on 03/27/2014 9:41:06 AM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Zeneta

Oh My! I forgot that one.

You Are SO Right!


44 posted on 03/27/2014 9:54:44 AM PDT by left that other site
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To: henkster
The climate is changing. And the fascinating thing about the climate is that there are cycles within cycles within even longer cycles. My guess is that we are gradually, longer term, trending warmer, but may be entering an intermediate colder cycle. But I don’t know.

Agreed about the cyclical nature of it all. Personally, I lean towards it trending colder (another Ice Age in the future). Problem is, we really just do not know. The Lord does, and He ain't tellin'. Ultimately, an ice age like the last cycle would be absolutely devastating to mankind. We'd survive, but we sure as hell wouldn't have much, if anything in many of the northern states. Sure as hell wouldn't be growing crops on a mile-high sheet of ice.

Warming is ultimately beneficial to mankind, as you have longer growing seasons. Massive desalination projects might be able to assist some areas that would be adversely affected by drought if we really wanted it. We have the technology. Some of that tech could very well be solar. (solar concentrators powering evaporative captures).

I'm hoping for heat, but my naturally pessimistic nature is expecting cold.

45 posted on 03/27/2014 1:25:18 PM PDT by zeugma (Is it evil of me to teach my bird to say "here kitty, kitty"?)
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To: zeugma

During the last ice age, the Sahara was a grassy steppe, much like Ukraine today. We could all move there. The Russians will.

As the ice sheets retreated, the Sahara dried out, the hunter-gatherers of the Eastern Sahara migrated into the Nile Valley, settled down, and as they say, the rest is history.

The reason I think the longer-term trend is toward a warmer world is that in terms of the geologic history of the earth, it is estimated that permanent ice has existed about 5% of the time. The earth’s natural condition is warmer than today. However, I can also agree with you that we are headed to a colder “ice age” period, as that is the intermediate cycle. The short term cycles are the 20-year warmer/cooler cycles. We are definitely coming out of a 20 year warm cycle, but are now headed into a 20 year cool cycle.


46 posted on 03/27/2014 1:41:58 PM PDT by henkster (I don't like bossy women telling me what words I can't use.)
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