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Spain Says Catalonia Canít Vote for Independence, But Catalans Will Go Ahead Anyway
Time ^ | 03/26/2014 | Per Liljas

Posted on 03/27/2014 11:49:09 AM PDT by Rusty0604

In a Tuesday ruling, Spanish judges found Catalonia’s planned independence referendum to be unconstitutional, but secessionists in the Spanish autonomous region (called a “community” in Spain) have vowed to proceed regardless.

Although stifled under the yoke of the Franco dictatorship, Catalonia has long felt cultural and linguistic disctinction from the rest of Spain. In recent years, it developed into a powerhouse of the nation’s economy. However, amid the country’s financial crisis, Madrid has been urging national unity.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: basques; catalonia; europeanunion; gibraltar; independence; nato; portugal; secession; spain
Spain doesn't want the region that supplies a lot of revenue that supports failed socialist policies to leave.
1 posted on 03/27/2014 11:49:09 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

I hope Texas is watching!


2 posted on 03/27/2014 11:51:47 AM PDT by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: Rusty0604

Any Russians on Catalonia?


3 posted on 03/27/2014 11:53:03 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Mr. K

Haha, agreed. The fact is that if a people decide to call something done, they can and will. Would a nation force a people not wanting unity to return knowing that those people would revolt and refuse to comply? Interesting times indeed.


4 posted on 03/27/2014 11:54:07 AM PDT by TheZMan (Buy more ammo.)
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To: Rusty0604

Witness the end result of the Welfare State. The national transfer payment system becomes so unsustainable that the more wealthy regions try to break away and leave the mess behind. The moocher parts of the nation will fight tooth and nail to keep their cash cow. Prepare for actual civil war.


5 posted on 03/27/2014 12:00:40 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: COBOL2Java

Catalonia has always been at war with East Estonia.


6 posted on 03/27/2014 12:01:55 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Rusty0604

With a well-timed bomb planted on a train in Madrid in 2004, Al Qaeda was able to force a political crisis in Spain, the downfall of the existing government, and the victory of the party that gave Al Qaeda the results it was seeking.

It is only one episode of many that give me little respect for the Spaniards to maintain their country as is. In spite of the EU super-bureacracy, the trend in Europe seems to be towards fragmentation and decline. Spain is a prime example.


7 posted on 03/27/2014 12:02:02 PM PDT by PGR88
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In spite of the EU super-bureacracy, the trend in Europe seems to be towards fragmentation and decline. Spain is a prime example.

Yes, and a Catalonian referndum may well be the incident that causes the final implosion of the euro - and with that the EU.

I may be a tad optimistic, but Spain without Catalonia is even more of an economic basket case than presently. Add to that that Spain will be able to veto a Catalonian accession to the EU - one of the few areas where the nations still have the right to veto Council decisions.

It looks like our present day polticians are competing on whether to create a new 1930s or a new 1914. The Spanish situation is getting similar to 1936.

8 posted on 03/27/2014 12:19:17 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Rusty0604
The Catalan indepententistas are leftwing nutbags, since Catalonia actually receives more from the rest of Spain that it contributes (despite the nationalists' skewed statistics).

The left has been behind this for years - they say they want an "Albania-like" state - and many of my friends there are very scared by this but they're even more afraid to speak out.

Think of Dems on steroids. That's what these leftist nationalist parties are like. Actually, Spain will probably be better off without them. Every intelligent Catalan I know is moving to Madrid even as we speak. And once it's down to a few leftist nationalists and foolish liberals, I think "la gran nacion de Catalunya" is going to find life a little rough going.

9 posted on 03/27/2014 12:39:54 PM PDT by livius
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But in 2008 Obama put forth Spain as an example to us in creating jobs and a vibrant economy with green energy. He did stop talking about it when it all blew up.


10 posted on 03/27/2014 1:25:48 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: livius

Interesting.


11 posted on 03/27/2014 1:28:06 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

Zapatero’s “green energy” programs destroyed employment in Spain, particularly Northern Spain.

The subsequent conservative government hasn’t been very successful, partly because the devastation was profound, partly because of press hostility, and partly because of timidity on the part of the conservative party.

If conservatives or even the regular old GOP get back in power here, they’ve got to be thinking about their program and how to enact it. The PP (conservative party) in Spain has made some improvements, but the party is too cowardly to enunciate a new vision - even though that’s why people voted for them.


12 posted on 03/27/2014 1:55:19 PM PDT by livius
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