Skip to comments.Vanity post about BF Goodrich tires
Posted on 03/28/2014 10:36:45 AM PDT by MissEdie
Vanity Post, need Freeper help regarding tire problems
Did you buy “Road Hazard”?
You could be wrong. Make them show you the item you ran over.
Never seen a new tire pop on its own.
Should be simple for them to show you the hole if you ran over something.
In my experience if you run over something you don’t hear anything, the tire just starts going flat. Unless its something major.
If its a tire defect then you hear a pop.
Its a car dealership, of course they are trying to get out of it.
The object should still be in the tire.
Make them show you and make sure you are watching them while they take off the tire and check it.
Firestone 500’s back in the early 80’s........................Tread separations and Sidewall blowouts.................
US Navy has the correct question.
If you bought road hazard coverage with you tires, it doesn’t matter how it happened, they will fix the tire for free.
Google search and see if other people have had problems with this tire. Usually there are many others.........................if it’s a tire problem.................
It’s possible the front tire kicked up the object that got the rear tire.
Chances are you’ll need to get in contact with a mfg rep. Did you buy road hazard
warranty? If so that should cover it. Otherwise you are facing a defect situation
assuming you are correct in that you didn’t run over anything.
Read the following to get a gist of warranties/hazard etc.
Yes, you are wrong. A front tire or an entire vehicle may pass over sharp, pointy objects and road debris without incident, only to have a rear tire or the tire of a following vehicle get punctured. The tire should show an identifiable puncture instead of a manufacturing defect.
My last two flats were on the right rear. You drive over something and the front tire lifts it up. The back tire catches it and ka-pow. The road is changing all the time. Your husband may have missed the object by half an inch.
It comes down to this. Did you buy road hazard insurance? (Even if you did it might not help. I have 20,000 miles on Michelins and it still cost me $47 to replace a tire because it was worn 3/1000.)
If they’re going to charge you full price then I’d say go to either “Discount Tire” Or Costco. Tires are very competitive. They’ll be within a few dollars. So far I think Discount has the best warranty.
If you go somewhere else to get tires, DO NOT go to Firestone.
They are the biggest crooks
Maybe you ran over something.
My husband asked for it and they said they didn’t have it, it must still be on the road so he went and walked both sides of it for over 100 feet and found nothing. If I’m wrong I don’t mind paying for it, but this place has a reputation for ripping people off.
I must be lucky, the place I buy my tires from will fix a flat for free, no matter how old the tire is. Maybe they include it in the price of the new tire, but I never paid for any extra warranty, etc. Good luck with your situation !
No we didn’t :9(
That’s really the only pertinent question on this thread. All the other questions that follow this one is moot.
Go back - get a new tire - problem solved.
What? You DIDN’T get the Road Hazard? Well, then. You’ll know better next time, huh?
I did and found info about a recall, I’ve written the numbers down and am going to make them check it.
I agree with whomever said you should have the dealer show you what was in the tire or the hole if the item was no longer there.
Thanks for your info
Thank you for your help!!
“Firestone 500s back in the early 80s........................Tread separations and Sidewall blowouts.....”
Had those on my old Oldsmobile Holiday 98! Creepy! Heard about it and checked my tires. Bubbles!
HAd them on two cars............Both had blowouts......................
Sorry, but still not an insurmountable problem, as the repair should only be a few dollars.
I’d call around, as you have no obligation to this store.
Discount Tire, Sam's, Costco are Nationwide and fighting for Your $$$ You can get service/warranty at any store.
Dealerships are thieves.
You don’t know much about Dealerships, do You?
You work for one.
I had Firestone 500’s that separated before I got them out of the tire store parking lot.
Nope.....I've had plenty of flat tires in my life. Front, back, left, right....all of them.
Nails and screws were the primary causes.........So what's it going to cost you to plug the hole? Certainly not enough to get all worried up about it.
If they can’t show you the hole, at least, then something sounds fishy
Too late, the tires are already purchased.
No need to hammer on her, she needs a bit of help right now.
I’d have your husband talk to these people. Especially if he’s a big guy. Sounds like a defect to me.
I never buy road hazard guarantees. Never had a tire blow out like that.
BF Goodrich quality is low because they spend all that money on the blimp.
I’m afraid I don’t understand your question (and I don’t think others do either). I read your post 3 times; it’s lacking some details (understandable, given the frustration).
Tires get punctured all the time. If you’ve never had it happen, you’re in the minority. If the ‘dealer’ you bought the tires from want to charge you for ‘tire repair’ for a puncture, that’s typical of a dealership. Tire ‘chains’ (Les Schwab, America’s Tire, Tire Factory) typically will all perform free flat repair to tires they sell. Dealerships? Well, perhaps a minority, but not atypical.
If they’re telling you it ‘has to be replaced’, that would be due to sidewall damage (cannot be repaired by law). If that’s the case, it’s a simple matter of them showing you the damage. It happens.
Contractors are the biggest culprits for road debris/tire hazards; but regardless, I think if the prior is the case (they want to charge you for a ‘tire repair’), I think you should consider getting a referral to a local tire shop (Costco, even?) rather than doing the Dealer (a Ford dealer, if I understood the vagueness in your post correctly).
Tire repair shouldn’t run more than $10-20 depending on the shop. Getting there, however, is a different story when you have a flat (road hazard helps there).
Hope that helps.
Wasn’t trying to, just stating facts.
We had almost the exact thing happen to us, at a local tire dealer. He tried to get out of fixing/repairing what we knew was a defective tire.
Call BF Goodrich’s customer service department. Let them know all the things you’ve posted here (pop, rear tire vs front, if it were a puncture wouldn’t it a) be visible/have evidence of some sort and b) tend to leak over time). Also, let them know you see this as a SAFETY issue and that you’d not of expected this from their tire. It doesn’t hurt to try.
They should be able to show you where the tire was punctured even if what caused it is no longer in the tire. They have a water tank they dunk the tire into that shows where the hole is by the bubbles.
If you buy a new tire take the old one with you and search for the hole on your own.
Another way a tire can pop is by hitting a pothole hard enough to where it pops the bead and deflates.
Your post does help, I just talked to my husband and someone from the dealership told him I must have driven over something that cut the tread all the way across. I promise you I saw nothing in the road. All I know is I was driving about 30 mph and I heard a loud “pop”, ten seconds later my “Low Tire Pressure” light came on. When I got out to look I saw my back passenger tire going flat. My husband has asked for the tire but they are stonewalling on giving it to him. BTW, it’s a Ford Dealership, not a tire one.
Thank you, I am going to call them!!
Check the date code on your new tires to make sure they didn’t sell you old tires.
Happened to me once a few years ago. I purchased what I thought were new tires and while the tires had never been used - they had languished in the dealer’s inventory for 10 years. I raised a stink and they did replace them with current inventory.
You are right, I do not know anything about dealerships and I do not work for one. BUT I do know tires. I also know that no retailer in his right mind doesn’t want to make a factory defect right. I also know that EVERY tire company will reimburse the dealer or retailer for defective tires. I also know that defective tires are much fewer today than they were just a few years ago, but they still happen and that is why tires are warranted.
Now since you seem to be the expert on dealers, Why would they not warrant a tire that is defective? Is it because they like adverse publicity? Or do they just enjoy screwing over their customers so they will go to the competition to buy their next set of tires?
One of the people who worked for me was a very knowledgeable car person. He was ahead of the curve on the Firestone 500 fiasco.
One day he asked me to come over to his vehicle, kneel down next to a tire and close my eyes and run my hand along a designated place on the tire. Then he asked me to describe what I felt. I told him it felt like BBs under the tire surface. He told me the 500 tires were defective and Firestone wouldn't make good on them.
He went back to Firestone had the 500s replaced with another tire.
When the bill came, he refused to pay it, and told Firestone to take him to court because he could show the 500s were defective.
Eventually the 500s got recalled. - Tom
The only front tire flat I ever had was on my 1954 chevy station wagon. It went pst, pst, pst, pst, pst and I pulled over to watch it slowly go flat. I had worn through all layers of chords and it just wore a hole in the tire.
I was young and poor.