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3-28-2014 | Miss Edie

Posted on 03/28/2014 10:36:45 AM PDT by MissEdie

Vanity Post, need Freeper help regarding tire problems


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HELP Freepers, I need some help regarding a tire. A little over 2 weeks ago we put brand new BF Goodrich tires on my Ford Expedition. This morning as I am driving my daughter to school I hear a "POP", about 10 seconds later my Low Tire Pressure light comes on. I pulled over to look and my back passenger side tire is going flat. Long story short, the dealership where we got the tires is trying to say I ran over something in the road that punctured the tire. My husband drove the exact same route less than 30 minutes before I did and had no problems. There was nothing in the road, and my question is, if I ran over something sharp enough to puncture a tire, wouldn't it have gotten the front tire first?? Am I wrong in thinking the dealership is trying to get out of making this right???
1 posted on 03/28/2014 10:36:45 AM PDT by MissEdie
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To: MissEdie

Did you buy “Road Hazard”?


2 posted on 03/28/2014 10:38:34 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: MissEdie

You could be wrong. Make them show you the item you ran over.


3 posted on 03/28/2014 10:38:59 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: MissEdie

Never seen a new tire pop on its own.


4 posted on 03/28/2014 10:39:14 AM PDT by KEVLAR (Liberty or Death)
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To: MissEdie

Should be simple for them to show you the hole if you ran over something.

In my experience if you run over something you don’t hear anything, the tire just starts going flat. Unless its something major.

If its a tire defect then you hear a pop.

Its a car dealership, of course they are trying to get out of it.


5 posted on 03/28/2014 10:40:37 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: MissEdie
It's not unusual or weird to have a puncture on the rear, but not on the front. Most of the times I've flatted a tire because of something in the road (nail, or screw type item) it was a back tire. The front tire might run over the object in a non-damaging way, and the object is reoriented so the rear tire gets it.

The object should still be in the tire.

6 posted on 03/28/2014 10:42:51 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: MissEdie

Make them show you and make sure you are watching them while they take off the tire and check it.


7 posted on 03/28/2014 10:43:43 AM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11))
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To: KEVLAR

Firestone 500’s back in the early 80’s........................Tread separations and Sidewall blowouts.................

http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article/firestones-second-big-tire-blowout/


8 posted on 03/28/2014 10:46:56 AM PDT by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: US Navy Vet

US Navy has the correct question.

If you bought road hazard coverage with you tires, it doesn’t matter how it happened, they will fix the tire for free.


9 posted on 03/28/2014 10:47:40 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Over production, one of the top 5 worries for the American Farmer every year.)
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To: MissEdie

Google search and see if other people have had problems with this tire. Usually there are many others.........................if it’s a tire problem.................


10 posted on 03/28/2014 10:48:08 AM PDT by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: MissEdie

It’s possible the front tire kicked up the object that got the rear tire.


11 posted on 03/28/2014 10:48:12 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the libs say we are.)
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To: MissEdie

Chances are you’ll need to get in contact with a mfg rep. Did you buy road hazard
warranty? If so that should cover it. Otherwise you are facing a defect situation
assuming you are correct in that you didn’t run over anything.

Read the following to get a gist of warranties/hazard etc.

http://www.edmunds.com/auto-warranty/understanding-tire-warranties.html


12 posted on 03/28/2014 10:49:08 AM PDT by deport
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To: MissEdie

Yes, you are wrong. A front tire or an entire vehicle may pass over sharp, pointy objects and road debris without incident, only to have a rear tire or the tire of a following vehicle get punctured. The tire should show an identifiable puncture instead of a manufacturing defect.


13 posted on 03/28/2014 10:49:59 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: MissEdie

My last two flats were on the right rear. You drive over something and the front tire lifts it up. The back tire catches it and ka-pow. The road is changing all the time. Your husband may have missed the object by half an inch.

It comes down to this. Did you buy road hazard insurance? (Even if you did it might not help. I have 20,000 miles on Michelins and it still cost me $47 to replace a tire because it was worn 3/1000.)

If they’re going to charge you full price then I’d say go to either “Discount Tire” Or Costco. Tires are very competitive. They’ll be within a few dollars. So far I think Discount has the best warranty.


14 posted on 03/28/2014 10:50:08 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: MissEdie

If you go somewhere else to get tires, DO NOT go to Firestone.

They are the biggest crooks


15 posted on 03/28/2014 10:54:05 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: MissEdie
About ten years ago I had the thread come apart on a fairly new tire (under a year old).
Was a vibration for about 5 seconds and then the *POP/BANG* before I could pull over.
Tire folks (Goodyear) made it right.
16 posted on 03/28/2014 10:55:13 AM PDT by The Cajun (tea party!!!, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert......Nuff said.)
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To: MissEdie
Geez! It' s a flat tire.

Maybe you ran over something.

17 posted on 03/28/2014 10:55:21 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: ShadowAce

My husband asked for it and they said they didn’t have it, it must still be on the road so he went and walked both sides of it for over 100 feet and found nothing. If I’m wrong I don’t mind paying for it, but this place has a reputation for ripping people off.


18 posted on 03/28/2014 10:55:34 AM PDT by MissEdie (America went to the polls on 11-6-12 and all we got was a socialist thug and a dottering old fool.)
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To: MissEdie

I must be lucky, the place I buy my tires from will fix a flat for free, no matter how old the tire is. Maybe they include it in the price of the new tire, but I never paid for any extra warranty, etc. Good luck with your situation !


19 posted on 03/28/2014 10:55:47 AM PDT by jttpwalsh
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To: Balding_Eagle

No we didn’t :9(


20 posted on 03/28/2014 10:57:01 AM PDT by MissEdie (America went to the polls on 11-6-12 and all we got was a socialist thug and a dottering old fool.)
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To: US Navy Vet

That’s really the only pertinent question on this thread. All the other questions that follow this one is moot.

Go back - get a new tire - problem solved.

What? You DIDN’T get the Road Hazard? Well, then. You’ll know better next time, huh?


21 posted on 03/28/2014 10:57:05 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Red Badger

I did and found info about a recall, I’ve written the numbers down and am going to make them check it.


22 posted on 03/28/2014 10:57:56 AM PDT by MissEdie (America went to the polls on 11-6-12 and all we got was a socialist thug and a dottering old fool.)
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To: MissEdie
I suspect you are incorrect in thinking the dealer is trying to get out of making it right. There is no reason for the dealer to to mislead (lie) about the problem. If there is a defect, Goodrich will reimburse him. As someone else asked, “Did you buy Road Hazard protection?” if so, your tire is probably covered.

I agree with whomever said you should have the dealer show you what was in the tire or the hole if the item was no longer there.

23 posted on 03/28/2014 10:58:49 AM PDT by Tupelo (I feel more like Philip Nolan every day)
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To: Red Badger

Thanks for your info


24 posted on 03/28/2014 11:01:40 AM PDT by MissEdie (America went to the polls on 11-6-12 and all we got was a socialist thug and a dottering old fool.)
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To: deport

Thank you for your help!!


25 posted on 03/28/2014 11:02:49 AM PDT by MissEdie (America went to the polls on 11-6-12 and all we got was a socialist thug and a dottering old fool.)
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To: Red Badger

“Firestone 500’s back in the early 80’s........................Tread separations and Sidewall blowouts.....”

Had those on my old Oldsmobile Holiday 98! Creepy! Heard about it and checked my tires. Bubbles!


26 posted on 03/28/2014 11:04:40 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

HAd them on two cars............Both had blowouts......................


27 posted on 03/28/2014 11:06:04 AM PDT by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: MissEdie

Sorry, but still not an insurmountable problem, as the repair should only be a few dollars.

I’d call around, as you have no obligation to this store.


28 posted on 03/28/2014 11:07:37 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Over production, one of the top 5 worries for the American Farmer every year.)
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To: MissEdie
NEVER BUY TIRES FROM A DEALERSHIP!!!

Discount Tire, Sam's, Costco are Nationwide and fighting for Your $$$ You can get service/warranty at any store.

Dealerships are thieves.

29 posted on 03/28/2014 11:08:38 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!!)
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To: Tupelo

You don’t know much about Dealerships, do You?

or

You work for one.


30 posted on 03/28/2014 11:10:08 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!!)
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To: KEVLAR

I had Firestone 500’s that separated before I got them out of the tire store parking lot.


31 posted on 03/28/2014 11:10:10 AM PDT by Clay Moore ("To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." ~Voltaire)
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To: MissEdie
if I ran over something sharp enough to puncture a tire, wouldn't it have gotten the front tire first

Nope.....I've had plenty of flat tires in my life. Front, back, left, right....all of them.

Nails and screws were the primary causes.........So what's it going to cost you to plug the hole? Certainly not enough to get all worried up about it.

32 posted on 03/28/2014 11:11:27 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Under Reagan spring always arrived on time.....)
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To: MissEdie

If they can’t show you the hole, at least, then something sounds fishy


33 posted on 03/28/2014 11:11:37 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: mabarker1

Too late, the tires are already purchased.

No need to hammer on her, she needs a bit of help right now.


34 posted on 03/28/2014 11:11:48 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Over production, one of the top 5 worries for the American Farmer every year.)
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To: MissEdie

I’d have your husband talk to these people. Especially if he’s a big guy. Sounds like a defect to me.

I never buy road hazard guarantees. Never had a tire blow out like that.


35 posted on 03/28/2014 11:14:38 AM PDT by McGruff (prop·a·gan·da - information of a biased or misleading nature)
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To: MissEdie

BF Goodrich quality is low because they spend all that money on the blimp.


36 posted on 03/28/2014 11:15:59 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: MissEdie

I’m afraid I don’t understand your question (and I don’t think others do either). I read your post 3 times; it’s lacking some details (understandable, given the frustration).

Tires get punctured all the time. If you’ve never had it happen, you’re in the minority. If the ‘dealer’ you bought the tires from want to charge you for ‘tire repair’ for a puncture, that’s typical of a dealership. Tire ‘chains’ (Les Schwab, America’s Tire, Tire Factory) typically will all perform free flat repair to tires they sell. Dealerships? Well, perhaps a minority, but not atypical.

If they’re telling you it ‘has to be replaced’, that would be due to sidewall damage (cannot be repaired by law). If that’s the case, it’s a simple matter of them showing you the damage. It happens.

Contractors are the biggest culprits for road debris/tire hazards; but regardless, I think if the prior is the case (they want to charge you for a ‘tire repair’), I think you should consider getting a referral to a local tire shop (Costco, even?) rather than doing the Dealer (a Ford dealer, if I understood the vagueness in your post correctly).

Tire repair shouldn’t run more than $10-20 depending on the shop. Getting there, however, is a different story when you have a flat (road hazard helps there).

Hope that helps.


37 posted on 03/28/2014 11:16:22 AM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: Balding_Eagle

Wasn’t trying to, just stating facts.


38 posted on 03/28/2014 11:16:41 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!!)
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To: MissEdie

We had almost the exact thing happen to us, at a local tire dealer. He tried to get out of fixing/repairing what we knew was a defective tire.

Call BF Goodrich’s customer service department. Let them know all the things you’ve posted here (pop, rear tire vs front, if it were a puncture wouldn’t it a) be visible/have evidence of some sort and b) tend to leak over time). Also, let them know you see this as a SAFETY issue and that you’d not of expected this from their tire. It doesn’t hurt to try.

Good luck.


39 posted on 03/28/2014 11:17:47 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: MissEdie

They should be able to show you where the tire was punctured even if what caused it is no longer in the tire. They have a water tank they dunk the tire into that shows where the hole is by the bubbles.

If you buy a new tire take the old one with you and search for the hole on your own.

Another way a tire can pop is by hitting a pothole hard enough to where it pops the bead and deflates.


40 posted on 03/28/2014 11:24:26 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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To: logi_cal869

Your post does help, I just talked to my husband and someone from the dealership told him I must have driven over something that cut the tread all the way across. I promise you I saw nothing in the road. All I know is I was driving about 30 mph and I heard a loud “pop”, ten seconds later my “Low Tire Pressure” light came on. When I got out to look I saw my back passenger tire going flat. My husband has asked for the tire but they are stonewalling on giving it to him. BTW, it’s a Ford Dealership, not a tire one.


41 posted on 03/28/2014 11:29:13 AM PDT by MissEdie (America went to the polls on 11-6-12 and all we got was a socialist thug and a dottering old fool.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

THANK YOU!!


42 posted on 03/28/2014 11:30:43 AM PDT by MissEdie (America went to the polls on 11-6-12 and all we got was a socialist thug and a dottering old fool.)
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To: Jane Long

Thank you, I am going to call them!!


43 posted on 03/28/2014 11:32:21 AM PDT by MissEdie (America went to the polls on 11-6-12 and all we got was a socialist thug and a dottering old fool.)
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To: MissEdie

Check the date code on your new tires to make sure they didn’t sell you old tires.

Happened to me once a few years ago. I purchased what I thought were new tires and while the tires had never been used - they had languished in the dealer’s inventory for 10 years. I raised a stink and they did replace them with current inventory.


44 posted on 03/28/2014 11:37:40 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: mabarker1

You are right, I do not know anything about dealerships and I do not work for one. BUT I do know tires. I also know that no retailer in his right mind doesn’t want to make a factory defect right. I also know that EVERY tire company will reimburse the dealer or retailer for defective tires. I also know that defective tires are much fewer today than they were just a few years ago, but they still happen and that is why tires are warranted.

Now since you seem to be the expert on dealers, Why would they not warrant a tire that is defective? Is it because they like adverse publicity? Or do they just enjoy screwing over their customers so they will go to the competition to buy their next set of tires?


45 posted on 03/28/2014 11:41:08 AM PDT by Tupelo (I feel more like Philip Nolan every day)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
“Firestone 500’s back in the early 80’s........................Tread separations and Sidewall blowouts.....”

One of the people who worked for me was a very knowledgeable car person. He was ahead of the curve on the Firestone 500 fiasco.

One day he asked me to come over to his vehicle, kneel down next to a tire and close my eyes and run my hand along a designated place on the tire. Then he asked me to describe what I felt. I told him it felt like BBs under the tire surface. He told me the 500 tires were defective and Firestone wouldn't make good on them.

He went back to Firestone had the 500s replaced with another tire.

When the bill came, he refused to pay it, and told Firestone to take him to court because he could show the 500s were defective.
Eventually the 500s got recalled. - Tom

46 posted on 03/28/2014 11:44:35 AM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse U.S. citizens and Americans. They are not necessarily the same. -tom)
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To: Hot Tabasco

The only front tire flat I ever had was on my 1954 chevy station wagon. It went pst, pst, pst, pst, pst and I pulled over to watch it slowly go flat. I had worn through all layers of chords and it just wore a hole in the tire.

I was young and poor.


47 posted on 03/28/2014 11:48:45 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Capt. Tom
We owned an Explorer with the bad Firestone ties when we lived in Minnesota. When we got the final demand to come in for new free tires, the dealer, and every Firestone dealer in the Twin Cities, was out of stock.
Firestone paid for a new set of Michelins.
48 posted on 03/28/2014 11:55:25 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Road Hazard?
Who knew?


49 posted on 03/28/2014 12:00:25 PM PDT by MistrX
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To: MissEdie

50 posted on 03/28/2014 12:28:47 PM PDT by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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