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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD VOLUME 13 MARCH 28,2014
Free Republic | March 28, 2014 | greeneyes

Posted on 03/28/2014 12:39:07 PM PDT by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you. This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks.

No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked. It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. There is no telling where it will go and... that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!

NOTE: This is a once a week ping list. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest are welcomed, so feel free to post them at any time.


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Greetings from Missouri. We are finally going to have a few days of spring weather. Today is 52 degrees with sunshine.

Last night we had high winds, thunder and lightening, but I never saw a drop of rain. Our rain barrels are full though, so no worries yet.

Potatoes are greening. Indoor tomato has 4 almost ripe cherry tomatoes. Basil needs to be harvested. Covers are off the garlic and perennials.

Plan to continue prepping the beds this weekend. I have been planning the container gardening which will be stepped up this year. I can add more than 100 sq. feet if I put lots of containers on the back patio with walkways around and in between.

Hubby went to Walmart and came home with several gardening magazines. I have been reading the Mother Earth Guide to Organic Gardening. It's chock full of good stuff and lots of websites for additional info.

It has a section on Building food for self sufficiency too. This reminds me that their website has some interesting stuff too: www.MotherEarthNews.com

I will be ordering some stuff from Diana's Company-Jungs as soon as payday gets here. This is a year that I am not ordering much, because I over ordered last year, and need to use those seeds while the viability is still really good.

Have a great weekend. God Bless.

1 posted on 03/28/2014 12:39:07 PM PDT by greeneyes
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To: greeneyes

Hello from the police state of Connecticut! It’s still quite chilly here but my snowdrops, crocus and primroses are coming along beautifully. Tulips and daffodils seem to be unaffected by the recent cold snap and are about 2” out of the ground. I planted sugar snap and super sugar snap peas about a week ago; they have yet to sprout, but the ornamental sweet peas that I planted along a trellis have sprouted. I love this time of year. :) Happy gardening!


2 posted on 03/28/2014 12:43:59 PM PDT by SoKatt ("Change" is not a strategy!)
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To: greeneyes; SunkenCiv; Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; ...

Pinging the list. Sunken Civ has alerted me to this posting by orsonweb regarding sources of seeds.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3137873/posts


3 posted on 03/28/2014 12:45:05 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: SoKatt

I really love tulips, daffodils, hyacinths. Too bad they don’t last longer. It’s really feeling like spring here. I don’t want to get over excited, we have been known to have snow in April, but I’ll be doing all I can do the next 2 weeks to get the garden ready, and the spring cleaning wrapped up for a while.


4 posted on 03/28/2014 12:48:43 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

orsonweb = orsonwb


5 posted on 03/28/2014 12:50:14 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Lots of plants, almost ready to get transplanted into the big garden.

It's good to have internet access again. I've pulled up the cold frame for the year, and we're going to get rain later today. I hope the high winds bypass us, though.

/johnny

6 posted on 03/28/2014 12:51:30 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

How neat! What do you have there?


7 posted on 03/28/2014 12:55:05 PM PDT by SoKatt ("Change" is not a strategy!)
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To: Marcella

I read your description of the deck corn. I am really looking forward to getting those started. Still haven’t received my containers from the Mega Store. Hope they can fill the back order soon.


8 posted on 03/28/2014 12:58:06 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: SoKatt
Tomatoes, peppers, lots of tobacco, basil, catnip, thyme, cumin, cilantro, squash, cantaloupe, pumpkin, and probably other stuff. I pulled the stuff out to remove the cold frame. The staging/potting table was a handy place to put most of it.

/johnny

9 posted on 03/28/2014 12:58:53 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

That’s a good bunch of plants there for transplanting. So glad you are back. We missed you.


10 posted on 03/28/2014 12:59:42 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

I think I’m going to try some peas tomorrow, it looks like upper 60’s here early next week, enough to get them going.


11 posted on 03/28/2014 1:05:50 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: greeneyes

“I read your description of the deck corn. I am really looking forward to getting those started.”

Don’t know if you are direct planting in final container or sprouting seed inside. Once they come up in the cup inside, they grow faster than one would think and when put outside, have exceptional growth (that’s according to my impression).


12 posted on 03/28/2014 1:12:36 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: greeneyes

Glad to hear you got some springtime up your way. I know you are thrilled.


13 posted on 03/28/2014 1:18:40 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (Hate is what people that hate the truth call the truth.)
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To: greeneyes

It’s 82deg here, and bright sunshine, too.


14 posted on 03/28/2014 1:25:11 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (Hate is what people that hate the truth call the truth.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“cilantro”

Shoot, that reminds me I don’t have any and I definitely want it. That is one spice type I would actually use. Rats, now I have to find it.


15 posted on 03/28/2014 1:25:58 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: greeneyes

GETTING EARLY ZUCCHINI SQUASH.... Honey bees don't like to visit squash flowers. Solitaire bees do, but they don't emerge very early in the year. Do your first few squash shrivel up and fall off the vine? Mine used to, but not anymore. Early in the day, each morning, I hand pollinate my squash. I also do the same with tomato plants to get early tomatoes.


It is May 4th and the squash and tomato garden in our front yard is doing very well.
But the solitaire bees are not out and about yet. Regular honey bees don't pollinate squash.
Father Nature comes to the rescue with a brush made of pheasant tail feather barbells.


The top flower is a female flower with large bulbous heads in the center.
The bottom flower is a male flower with a pistil with pollen on it.


The top flower is the female flower with a tiny squash behind the flower.
The bottom flower is a male flower with just a stem behind the flower.


Father Nature to the rescue. Here is the pheasant tail feather brush loaded with pollen.
I have first loaded the brush with pollen from a male flower. The pollen sticks to the brush.
I merely brush the pollen on the center of the female flower and Voila, the job is done.
Now the tiny squash behind the female flower will develop into a mature squash.

Good Hunting... from Varmint Al

16 posted on 03/28/2014 1:26:00 PM PDT by Varmint Al
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To: greeneyes
Hi, Greenie --
Another note on growing dill.

If anyone read my '2 crops a year' post, I have discovered a happy fact.

The dill seeds you harvest from the 1st crop, and presumably sow perhaps the following week turn out to have a STAGGERING germination rate (which fact, of course), I discovered completely by accident by sowing the new seeds like grass seed. Please sow more thinly than I indicated by AT LEAST half.

Well, I figured I could either let the plants kill each other by competition and wind up w/a lot of stunted dill, not good, or have a go at transplanting them elsewhere.

I know the common wisdom, "You can't transplant dill, the roots are too long and delicate." Horse puckey -- I didn't even have to kill a bunch of seedlings to learn what's what.

Clear, then loosen up a patch of soil with a hoe or a hand trowel. Since the dill (in this essay) is too dense in its bed, wet down (do not soak) a portion of the bed that you want to transplant. With a trowel, dig up a DEEP plug, lots of soil on the bottom. Take the plug over to where you're transplanting.

Let the plug de-moisten. When the earth in the plug is just a bit damp, start popping off little chunks of the plug. Sometimes, your little new pluglet will have just one seedling; great -- just dig a hole 1 to 1 1/2 in. deep, drop in the pluglet, cover up to the starter leaves, press the earth down and water.

If the pluglet has 2 or more seedlings, either plant them right together as above, or, VERY gently untangle the roots and proceed as above for each seedling. THIS IS NOT HARD TO DO, a little patience untangling works wonders. (Plus, if a fumblethumbs like SAJ can do this, ANYONE can!)

So far, I've moved 116 seedlings in this fashion. Killed 2. An acceptable record, I'd say.

Oh, yes, when you've finished transplanting to their new home, water the seedlings generously, immediately, but do not soak. You may have to press down the earth again afterwards.

Happy herbing!

17 posted on 03/28/2014 1:27:55 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: JRandomFreeper; greeneyes; All

Hey /johnny I bought me a cheap $6.00 Aquarium air pump at Walmart and aerating your recommended compost tea formula in a 5 gal bucket. I may have to hold off the watering though if the grey skies here in DFW produce some hydration unlike the dry teaser storm greeneyes recently had.


18 posted on 03/28/2014 1:30:10 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: Marcella
“cilantro” shoot, that reminds me I don’t have any

Oh yeh Marcella thats a required green herb in Tx. They grow fairly easy from seed and now is the time to plant it. When they get a little mature try to shade them partially or away from the hot afternoon sun later on since cilantro tends to bolt real quick in heat. I'm on a fish taco kick lately so fresh picked cilantro is a key 'fixin' to add. Go get you some.

19 posted on 03/28/2014 1:37:38 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: Marcella

I’m not sure either. It kinda depends on when Hubby plants his corn. I will succession plant about 3 weeks from that date.


20 posted on 03/28/2014 1:47:35 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: rightly_dividing

That’s high enough to make you sweat!LOL


21 posted on 03/28/2014 1:48:30 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Varmint Al

Thanks for the plant porn.LOL


22 posted on 03/28/2014 1:50:38 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: SAJ

Thanks for the informative post.


23 posted on 03/28/2014 1:52:51 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: SAJ

That’s a lot of dill.


24 posted on 03/28/2014 1:54:37 PM PDT by Fledermaus (I support Joe Carr in the TN GOP Primary against Lamar!)
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To: rightly_dividing; greeneyes; JRandomFreeper; sockmonkey; Nepeta; Silentgypsy; ApplegateRanch; ...
Had to transplant from small cups into larger containers today and did that outside and it was 80% humidity and I got really hot and sweaty. So much, had to take shower and wash hair when came in.

Adding those pots to the outside, rightly, makes about 90 pots and some of those I just transplanted have more than one plant in a pot and will need splitting into their own larger pot but I didn't have any larger pots for those plants but they had to get out of those 5 oz. cups. The larger ones I have left are for seven kinds of tomatoes under the grow lamp and I need more of those larger kinds for even those tomatoes.

There are other plants than tomatoes under the grow lamp and I just estimated how many more plants there would need pots and it's about 21 more plants other than tomatoes that will need pots. So, there will be more than 100 pots out there, maybe 130, for this whole group of present plants. I have certain sweet pepper seeds coming and want two of those planted. Then, I'm just reminded by Johnny about Cilantro, so toss that in.

Just thought about looking at the fingerling potatoes I put in a paper bag in the pantry to see if the eyes would produce growth and yes, I see some eyes with tiny bits of growth coming out. I haven't had those in there long, as in days not weeks, so maybe they will all do their thing and then go in a potato big bag from that Mega Garden place which I have.

Greeneyes, if I were you, I would call that place to find out where your bags are at this point.

Johnny, I've got 9 tobacco plants in 5 pots and none of the pots are big enough - have to get larger pots for all 9 plants very soon.

25 posted on 03/28/2014 1:58:42 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: greeneyes

I sweat way before 82! I have a narrow comfort zone. ;)


26 posted on 03/28/2014 2:03:36 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (Hate is what people that hate the truth call the truth.)
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To: Fledermaus
You bet it is, batsy.

Here in Panama, they charge $3.00+ for a 12ounce jar of pickles.

I said to myself, "Self, bleep that!". With cukes at 0.27 a pound and garlic very cheap, I can make a 32-oz jar of good tart Kosher dills for about 80-85 cents, cold-pack style (no cooking involved).

My friends pay me a buck a jar and promise to return the jars (and do), and it's all working out nicely.

LOTS of dill, mate. LOTS!

27 posted on 03/28/2014 2:04:22 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: Marcella
I will be sending you cilantro seed later this year, after these first ones mature and bolt.

/johnny

28 posted on 03/28/2014 2:07:52 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: tflabo
Nothing stops cilantro from bolting. When it looks like it's going to start bolting, I plant more. I plant cilantro 4-5 times a year.

/johnny

29 posted on 03/28/2014 2:09:31 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Marcella; SisterK
Don't worry about transplanting tobacco. It seems to enjoy it. The rebel tobacco plant got transplanted about 6 times.

Speaking of the rebel tobacco plant, here is a recent photo:

Cigarette tube shown for scale.

/johnny

30 posted on 03/28/2014 2:11:51 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: rightly_dividing; Marcella
I sweat way before 82!

I find that by not wearing pants, I can keep much cooler. ;)

/johnny

31 posted on 03/28/2014 2:13:22 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: greeneyes

Put some tomato seedlings and spinach seeds in yesterday. I also have shallots, onions and garlic planted. I have carrots growing in a container, since my neighbor had good luck with that last year.

I’ll be putting turnips and leaf lettuce in the garden tomorrow. I plan to plant some bush beans and see how they grow. I have enough room for a few bushes and we love fresh beans.


32 posted on 03/28/2014 2:13:42 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: rightly_dividing; JRandomFreeper
“I find that by not wearing pants, I can keep much cooler. ;)”

rightly, we are fast going into no pants time for Johnny.

He doesn't let nudity slow him down - raced out nude with fire extinguisher when a neighbor's house was burning - and at major holiday time, even in winter, pants end up on roof. He says from his early childhood, he saw no benefit in pants. That is paraphrasing what he said but that is the gist of it.

33 posted on 03/28/2014 2:26:54 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Marcella
we are fast going into no pants time for Johnny.

Um... we're there. It's over 70F here. Raggedy cut-offs and tank tops are the dress uniform of the day.

/johnny

34 posted on 03/28/2014 2:30:36 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Marcella

It’s on my list.


35 posted on 03/28/2014 2:30:43 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: rightly_dividing

Well so do I, if I’m not digging.LOL


36 posted on 03/28/2014 2:31:50 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: rightly_dividing

Make that clearer. If sitting still, I may sweat at 80 degrees or more.

If digging, I will sweat at lower temps.


37 posted on 03/28/2014 2:33:04 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

LOL I do wear shorts.


38 posted on 03/28/2014 2:34:09 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (Hate is what people that hate the truth call the truth.)
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To: greeneyes

Here in Maryland, the snow is almost off the ground on our little farm. Normally at this time of year, we have had to mow at least once, but it still looks like December here - no new grass, no greening of the trees - a very late spring. We are just now getting a tree guy out to fix the damage from the February ice storm (tree guys have been uber busy) - we lost a few trees and the tops off some really old ones. I stood on my front step and watched the tops of my trees break off and fall to the ground. My heart fell, too.

It should be above freezing this week so I am finally going to start my lavender seeds. I’m digging up my hosta paths (tired of giving the deer a salad bar) and planting lavender instead. The hosta were gorgeous - for a couple weeks - until the marauders came. They don’t like lavender and I’ve had good luck with it so far, so it seems a fair switch to me. I have many takers for the hosta.

I got some Ozark Beauty strawberry plants today and I’ll get them in. We got a bumper crop of blueberries last year but I don’t think the bushes made it through this horrid winter. Guess I have to get some new ones.

The jury is out on the fig as well.

We are shearing the alpacas early this year so I hope the frigid days are gone for good.

Looking forward to getting my hand in some dirt this weekend - between the rainstorms! Looks like the flowers and fruits and beehives (and maybe the alpaca babies) will be a bit late this year.


39 posted on 03/28/2014 2:43:09 PM PDT by mrs. a (It's a short life but a merry one...)
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To: greeneyes
I don't really trust digital thermometers, but the one on my desk says it's 99°F on the back deck. Skies are blue, even though the weatherman said there would be some rain NE of San Antonio.

I planted some pole bean, corn, and squash seed yesterday. Tomatoes and pepper plants are already in the ground, and the cooler weather crops will come out in a couple days.

Today, the Mrs and I have been partaking of some spring cleaning in the front enclosure. I broke out the old cement mixer and have been dumping soil from old pots into it and repotting plants. So far, I've repotted the Bay Tree, 2 Natal Plum bushes, several banana trees, and a Date palm.
It's amazing how the potting soil compacts over a year, and how little it takes to break it up again. I've been mixing in fresh horse manure to complement the older soil.

Our mulberry tree is full of immature fruit already. It should start ripening in a couple weeks. Hopefully, I can beat the birds to it.

I've been having trouble with grapes. I've planted muscadines and Siebel 9110 because of the problem with Pierces Disease in the area, but I just don't seem to have any luck with them. The amazing grape is one that I grew from a grape seed from the grocery store........It just doesn't seem to be affected by anything and keeps plugging along.

40 posted on 03/28/2014 2:52:58 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Two cannibals are eating a clown. One says to the other: "Does this taste funny to you?")
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To: Arrowhead1952

You’ve made good progress. We are going to grow some dry beans this year. We have lots of canned beans from last year still left. Nor sure we’ll have them all eaten before the new crop of green beans is ready for picking.

I’m going for Pintos and Great Northern. Hubby is going to let some of his top crop mature to the dry bean stage.


41 posted on 03/28/2014 2:54:52 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Beware deer and rabbits. They love them.


42 posted on 03/28/2014 2:56:47 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Sarajevo

Sounds like you need to get some more grapes from the grocery store. We have trouble with grapes. One year it was coons, one year drought, another year some sort of fungus or blight.

Have yet to get a big enough crop for wine.


43 posted on 03/28/2014 2:57:42 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Black Agnes

Have yet to see a deer. We do have rabbits and squirrels, but the rabbits don’t usually come close to the house, since our dog is out pretty often barking.

Just to be safe, I may make a lean to out of chicken wire. The bed has a fence in the back, so it would be easy to do.


44 posted on 03/28/2014 2:59:58 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes; All

I have to leave to pick up daughter from the car repair place. Be back later to continue discussions.


45 posted on 03/28/2014 3:01:06 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Sarajevo

Your local ag dept might want to know about your Pierce’s disease resistant grapevine. Seriously. I’ve got the same issues wrt disease and I keep talking myself out of planting grapes. I want something fairly low maintenance. Not a moneypit project that requires ever increasing allotments of my time.

Where did you get your grape/muscadines that were purchased?


46 posted on 03/28/2014 3:02:57 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: greeneyes

The deer in my ‘hood waited till my beans were *almost* ready. And then struck all at once, eating them to the ground.

This year we have a hot line.

We’ll see if it makes any difference.


47 posted on 03/28/2014 3:12:12 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: greeneyes
That’s high enough to make you sweat

It's 88 outside in the Texas Hill Country. 49 tonight..TX must think we are AZ or something. sheesh.

48 posted on 03/28/2014 3:24:20 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: Black Agnes

I am so thankful that we don’t have deer in our neighborhood. There are quite a few further out from town where there’s lots of unoccupied land and forage.

Haven’t seen a single one this close to town in 40 years.


49 posted on 03/28/2014 4:18:52 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: sockmonkey

We are all having weird weather these days.


50 posted on 03/28/2014 4:19:30 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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