Skip to comments.West Nile virus may have met its match: tobacco
Posted on 03/28/2014 4:57:00 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
Some people think of tobacco as a drug, whereas others think of it as a therapy or both. But for the most part, it's hard to find people who think of the tobacco plant in terms of its medical applications. Qiang Chen, an infectious disease researcher at Arizona State University, is one such person. His team of scientists conducted an experiment, published today in PLOS ONE, that demonstrates how a drug produced in tobacco plants can be used to prevent death in mice infected with a lethal dose of West Nile virus. The study represents an important first step in the development of a treatment for the mosquito-borne disease that has killed 400 people in the US within the last two years.
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I saw an episode of Survivorman where he was talking about using smoke to kill foot fungus and mentioned that tobacco smoke was said to be particularly good for it.
its said to diminish the chances of mens developing Alzhiemer’s and Parkinson’s disease. most notably.
The mice are smarter than smokers however so the results may not transfer to humans.
... and how smart are you relative to a rodent, lol?
A common “cure” for earache that I recall from childhood was blowing cigarette smoke into the problematic ear. Experienced it myself as a child. It actually did feel better, briefly. Why, I have no idea.
It’s not a normal tobacco plant.
They engineered genes designed to produce monoclonal antibodies and injected these into tobacco plants. They probably could have chosen any plant.
No, tobacco is fairly unique in this regard, to the point that it’s highly preferred for such purposes. There are several other instances of tobacco plants being used in this manner going back some time.
Must be true, I have been a smoker for over 50 years and have never had West Nile infection, not even once.
Duckweed is another candidate.
Pharming. (Not the Interwebs attack)
“Must be true, I have been a smoker for over 50 years and have never had West Nile infection, not even once.”
Nicotine is one of the primary chemicals used in many pesticides..........
Grew up in tobacco country, never heard of that. RJR used to give away cured tobacco stems by the truckload, they were excellent for soil remediation in gardens and even served as fertilizer of a sort when spread on a lawn, the grass greened right up.
Tobacco also known to harbor "tobacco moziac virus" for those folks who garden around tomato plants.
Only known remedy to control "Tobacco Moziac Virus" is to rinse your hands in milk (c/o Organic Gardening)
Perhaps there is a control in milk ??
Or perhaps one virus numerically overcomes the other ??
It gives a whole new meaning to " Blow it it your ear "
Or as Nancy says : " Enjoy the suck (Obamavomit)! "
Must be true. Smoked for 40 years. Gave it up. Got West Nile. Died last year.
i hear that crittercizers that have parasites (a bug up their BTTT) can be a cured by eating tobacco
It's not effective on all of them, as anyone who's ever been stung by a tobacco worm can attest.
Indians used to use tobacco as an antiseptic dressing for wounds.
Oh, geez. You’ve found your purpose in life?
Smoking was said to help malaria sufferers.
With the proper nutrients, sunlight & temperature, duckweed will double every 24 hours.
I know one thing. When wet, it’s excellent for bee/wasp stings. I keep it in our first aid kit. Handed down in our fam from Cherokee GGMother.
Did she use raw potato to draw out deeply imbedded splinters?
My granny kept some cigarettes for the same purpose. Wasp and bee stings.
No, but it was known in my fam to draw out deep boils and ‘bone bruises’.
My first summer job as a teen was working in the tobacco fields and barns of family and neighbors. I know that nicotine will absorb through wet clothing and into your skin. Getting a heavy dose of it pulling tobacco in the morning while the dew is still heavy will make the world spin out from under your feet, quite ill, akin to motion sickness. Smokers didn’t experience this though, only nonsmokers did.
When I smoked on an off years ago it would make me dizzy.
It’s mildly psychoactive and does somehow affect the inner ear.
We dusted snuff along the cows’ spines to keep ectoparasites away.
I take it you mean used cigarette butts.
You might get grotesque pictures hurled toward you for disagreeing in any way.
I doubt they’d be handling it enough to experience anything like what I described, that came from working hours getting dew-soaked, from gray pre-dawn to midmorning trying to beat the heat and get the ripe yellowing bottom leaves pulled and into the barn before the sun burned them up. Carrying two shotguns on the tractor for copperheads and rattlers, and as many frozen milkjugs for ice water as they could stack on the back too, lol. Hard work. But honest. Food never tasted so good, lunch outside after all that. Cold foods, tomato sandwiches, fried chicken that had been allowed to cool, cucumber salad with vinegar, onion and black pepper. Then, onto the shade of the barns to string it all and put it up.
For those who might someday need to know . . . if you’re ever really dangerously whacked out on psychedelics, tobacco will bring you back. Just saying.
There are many unhealthy habits in the world. None have been subject to the sustained campaign that tobacco has. The war on tobacco is, I think, more symptomatic of a disdain for those who have grown it than anything else. The health effects of sustained, excessive use are not pretty, but neither are those from any number of other substances that have been met with nowhere near the level of opprobrium. Alcohol, first and foremost. Then, we have the same supposedly health-conscious individuals turning around and advocating the legalization of marijuana. Marijuana smoke is somehow beneficial to the lungs, I take it? The whole thing is irrational and weird, imho. The party profiting by far and away the most from the sale of a pack of cigarettes would be government. Therein lies the reason it has not been made illegal. “Big Tobacco” is dwarfed by their cut.
I believe it has nothing to do with health, public safety, or any of the other reasons stated.
It has to do with power, control, and money.
I got west nile a couple of years ago. Now I know why I survived.
“For those who might someday need to know . . . if youre ever really dangerously whacked out on psychedelics, tobacco will bring you back. Just saying.”
Three hog callings and a county fair and I aint never heard that one. Heck I was of a certain age for the 60s. Are you talking about the newer spice, bath salt, generation of synthetics?
Ear smoking, yeah my bride of thirty plus years requested that from me before we ever married.Hot smoke is efficatious for ear aches.
I keep an empty tallboy half full of water for an ashtray. Pour contents on fireant mounds. Repeat as needed.
Running out of ammo for the ants and using a vaporizer for my nicotine fix lately. I’m going to have to start buying commercial fire ant products. I use DE powder in the pastures, doesn’t do much more than annoy a horse, kills ants. Slow kill on a big mound or super colony. Diatomaceous Earth. I havn’t any idea if I have the correct spelling on that mouthful. Pool filter powder.
I vaguely remember seeing something relating the use of nicotinic pesticides to the diminishing population of honeybees.
Did you have any of the lingering neurological effects that people talk about, numbness, temporary partial paralysis, mental fog or confusion? It sounds like a real trial, even after the initial infection passes.
No experience with some of the weirder new stuff, but all the native folks in the New World knew the role of tobacco in modulating peyote (mescaline), psilocybin mushrooms, and ayahuasca (harmaline + DMT).
Some of the really strong native tobaccos by themselves contain at least a useful amount of DMT, BTW - but even without that, tobacco alone was/is often used ritualistically as the truly great medicine for the direct link to the Great Spirit in prayer.
I have numbness anyway because of neck problems, but I haven’t noticed it to be any worse. It certainly was painful for 3-4 days.
So yours was relatively asymptomatic other than achy, flu-like symptoms? It can be a lot worse with some apparently having permanent neurological damage.
That dovetails with widespread anecdotal tales of mood modulation, if you’re tired it helps keep you alert, upset it helps calm you down, etc.
My quarter-Cherokee grandmother used fatback for drawing out infection, raw potato for drawing out foreign objects. She was a heck of a fisherman too, she’d spit snuff into the water, reach her big toe down off the dock and swirl it around, then the fish practically jumped on the line. She claimed it hypnotized them, lol. She made medicines from old-fashioned candy and corn liquor too. Horehound, lemon drops. Pretty strong stuff, hard to tell if you felt better from anything medicinal or because you were mildly drunk. Of course, many of the modern over the counter cough medicines are pretty much the same.
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