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Under My Thumb lyrics as sung by Mick Jagger
vanity | 3/30/14 | Mick Jagger & Keith Richards

Posted on 03/29/2014 9:46:27 PM PDT by Albion Wilde

I was out earlier tonight and heard Mick Jagger over a store loudspeaker singing "Under My Thumb." Given the very tragic suicide of his lover of 13 years, fashion designer and stylist L'Wren Scott, who was buried earlier this week amid rumors that Mick's unfaithfulness was one contributory factor, I hope he never, ever performs that song again...


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KEYWORDS: business; fashion; lover; lwrenscott; mickjagger; rollingstones; suicide; undermythumb; youresovain
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Under my thumb
The girl who once had me down
Under my thumb
The girl who once pushed me around

It's down to me
The difference in the clothes she wears
Down to me, the change has come,
She's under my thumb

Ain't it the truth, babe?
Under my thumb
The scurvy dog who's just had her day
Under my thumb
A girl who has just changed her ways

It's down to me, yes it is
The way she does just what she's told
Down to me, the change has come
She's under my thumb
Ah, ah, say it's alright

Under my thumb
A siamese cat of a girl
Under my thumb
She's the sweetest, hmmm, pet in the world

It's down to me
The way she talks when she's spoken to
Down to me, the change has come,
She's under my thumb
Ah, take it easy babe
Yeah

It's down to me, oh yeah
The way she talks when she's spoken to
Down to me, the change has come,
She's under my thumb
Yeah, it feels alright

Under my thumb
Her eyes are just kept to herself
Under my thumb, well I
I can still look at someone else

It's down to me, oh that's what I said
The way she talks when she's spoken to
Down to me, the change has come,
She's under my thumb
Say, it's alright.

Say it's all...
Say it's all...

Take it easy babe
Take it easy babe
Feels alright
Take it, take it easy babe

1 posted on 03/29/2014 9:46:28 PM PDT by Albion Wilde
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To: Albion Wilde
I hope he never, ever performs that song again...

Could you explain why? That song was written decades before he met her. She was a toddler when that song came out.

2 posted on 03/29/2014 9:51:07 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Albion Wilde

I always thought that they were trying to sound Motowny. The marimbas are interesting.


3 posted on 03/29/2014 9:52:17 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

I presume the idea is that someone who aspires to and experiences such in his relationships with women would have learned that that’s no way to treat another human being in an intimate relationship.


4 posted on 03/29/2014 9:54:41 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Albion Wilde; All

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYYTLJ8YHi4


5 posted on 03/29/2014 9:56:38 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: ELS; EDINVA; Tax-chick; Cincinna; ColdOne; kcvl; SeaHawkFan; ScottinVA; jean michael; ...

Ping


6 posted on 03/29/2014 9:56:56 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: nickcarraway

It’s fairly self-explanatory, mate.


7 posted on 03/29/2014 9:58:38 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: 9YearLurker

Under my thumb
The girl who once had me down
Under my thumb
The girl who once pushed me around


Sounds like paybacks to me. While I can understand the sentiment, better to just let it go and move on.


8 posted on 03/29/2014 9:58:50 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Albion Wilde

Watching girls go passing by
It ain’t the latest thing
I’m just standing in a doorway
I’m just trying to make some sense
Out of these girls go passing by
The tales they tell of men
I’m not waiting on a lady
I’m just waiting on a friend
A smile relieves a heart that grieves
Remember what I said
I’m not waiting on a lady
I’m just waiting on a friend
I’m just waiting on a friend
Don’t need a whore
I don’t need no booze
Don’t need a virgin priest
But I need someone I can cry to
I need someone to protect
Making love and breaking hearts
It is a game for youth
But I’m not waiting on a lady

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKLVmBOOqVU


9 posted on 03/29/2014 9:59:52 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Albion Wilde

Do we really know why she committed suicide? If it was because her business was failing what difference does it make what Jagger sings?


10 posted on 03/29/2014 10:01:34 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Sounds to me like someone with power issues.


11 posted on 03/29/2014 10:02:13 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Albion Wilde

12 posted on 03/29/2014 10:02:58 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: CaptainK

Reportedly she wanted commitment from Jagger in the form of marriage and a baby and he wouldn’t marry her and give her a kid. He is known to not want to marry and made it clear, but she hung on. She reportedly neglected her business and spent almost all of her time following his band around. So she did not work on her career and it started to go under.

It’s too bad since she did have beautiful designs.


13 posted on 03/29/2014 10:05:58 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: Albion Wilde

No, it really isn’t.


14 posted on 03/29/2014 10:06:26 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: 9YearLurker
Yep, but that stick swings both ways, and in the song it sounds like it swung back.

Like I said, better to just walk away, but that's my way. The song would appeal to a lot of wounded egos in a day and age where you didn't jus' bus' a cap in dat (expletive deleted) ho for dissin you...

Things haven't gotten any rosier out there.

15 posted on 03/29/2014 10:07:07 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: 9YearLurker; Albion Wilde
Jagger also wrote a song called, Beast of Burden that is on a similar topic.
16 posted on 03/29/2014 10:07:14 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Albion Wilde

Well, you know what? The whole BITTERSWEET SYMPHONY affair vis a vis THE VERVE really turned me off to Jagger. Could be maybe I’m way off base, but it seems like the common understanding is that he just screwed them to the wall, “... and for what? A little bit of money.” to quote Frances McDormand.

So let him stew in his own juices.


17 posted on 03/29/2014 10:07:35 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Albion Wilde

What a ridiculous vanity post.


18 posted on 03/29/2014 10:07:38 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Albion Wilde

He didn’t get the best of all of them.

http://youtu.be/mQZmCJUSC6g


19 posted on 03/29/2014 10:09:16 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Albion Wilde; 9YearLurker
Do you know anything about this man his other songs? He is far from a saint. Under my Thumb is probably one of his tamer songs. And no doubt Miss Scott knew long about that before she ever met him. I would not advise any women to pursue a relationship with him, but I highly doubt he caused her suicide.

(She killed herself because he was running around? Give me a break, he has always run around, including people of both sexes. Anyone who anticipated he would be with one person, might also believe that Obama and Ted Cruz are best friends.)

20 posted on 03/29/2014 10:11:02 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: CaptainK
what difference does it make what Jagger sings?

If you picture him actually singing that song in front of a live audience after what has happened, maybe you'll see how sad that would be.

I went to art school with scores of women like L'Wren Scott. The life of a creative professional is a hard life in so many ways -- the constant pressure to innovate, produce ever greater works and stay relevant; and for the fashion designers, they must also stay gorgeous and endure the limelight and all that goes with it. She was extraordinarily talented, but like many creatives, lacked the business gene. Business failures, her history as an adopted child who towered over her classmates (she was 6'3"), the onset of menopause and Mick's unfaithfulness apparently snowballed. RIP.

21 posted on 03/29/2014 10:11:29 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Kirkwood

Don’t read it, then.


22 posted on 03/29/2014 10:13:17 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Albion Wilde

People make choices - they make good ones and they make bad ones - blaming their choices on someone else is really a cop out. If Jagger would not give up his cheating ways on her why bother with him - her death did fix the problem though - he literally can’t cheat on her anymore! Seems like a dumb choice to make! I feel sad for them both - sad that they have not found a relationship based on mutual respect and love and they did not have the courage to exclusively commit to that - all the money and fame in the world cannot buy that!


23 posted on 03/29/2014 10:14:42 PM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: CorporateStepsister; CaptainK

Do you really think she killed herself because he wouldn’t marry her? Remember, Jagger is the guy who went through a marriage to his last consort in Indonesia, then claimed later that it was intentionally invalid. She had about as much chance of marrying him as she had of marrying Liberace. And she wasn’t a new babe in the woods when she took up with him. Most likely she was bipolar or had a condition like that.


24 posted on 03/29/2014 10:16:32 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Smokin' Joe

Sounds more like the rationalization of an abuser to me.


25 posted on 03/29/2014 10:16:44 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: RegulatorCountry
http://youtu.be/mQZmCJUSC6g

That's about Mick? I always thought it was about Warren Beatty...

26 posted on 03/29/2014 10:17:40 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: nickcarraway

He was always something of a bad boy that was overlooked for his music.


27 posted on 03/29/2014 10:18:34 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Many former abused become abusers. Just the way it is, unfortunately.


28 posted on 03/29/2014 10:18:35 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: dr_lew

Wow. I didn’t know that. That’s one of my all time favorite songs. Always suspected Jagger was a bit of a chav. I’m certain of it now.


29 posted on 03/29/2014 10:19:01 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Smokin' Joe

That sounds like a rationalization.


30 posted on 03/29/2014 10:19:36 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Albion Wilde

Speculation all over the map for decades. People settled on Mick Jagger because he sang backup on the studio version, assumed it was tongue in cheek.


31 posted on 03/29/2014 10:19:58 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: nickcarraway
I'm not trying to analyze the morality behind the lyrics or why Jagger is the way he is or why she was the way she was. I was just actually witnessing hearing those lyrics in the week of her burial and feeling great discomfort and sadness.

Obviously there were many factors, as I implied at the beginning by saying "contributory", not "absolute", and "faithfulness", not "marriage."

32 posted on 03/29/2014 10:21:55 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Smokin' Joe

He had an apparently wonderful childhood, educated and caring parents, all private schools and university... it wasn’t abuse that made him the way he was.


33 posted on 03/29/2014 10:24:07 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Albion Wilde

One bad relationship can poison the well. It’s in how you take it. Often the one who is most bitter about it is the one who screwed things up the most.


34 posted on 03/29/2014 10:27:15 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Albion Wilde

The guy’s been a try-sexual trollop for half a century. Falling for such an individual was not the most clearheaded thing to do.


35 posted on 03/29/2014 10:28:28 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Albion Wilde

Those lyrics always sucked. If anything, they espouse the kind of emotion that leads to rape, not love.

Backstreet girl is about the same.


36 posted on 03/29/2014 10:29:34 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: nickcarraway; Albion Wilde

I always thought that song was about Maryanne Faithful? The one who wrote “As Tears Go By”?

I liked the early Stonrs stuff when I discovered them in the 80s. The Brian Jones stuff. I have Paint it Black and Mothers Little Helper on my iPod.
I especially like the latter, I don’t know why but I do.


37 posted on 03/29/2014 10:35:18 PM PDT by Gefn (All good kitties go to the Rainbow Bridge;Holly 2/1999-12/2013)
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To: Albion Wilde
You might also take a listen to:

Stupid girl

Last time

Don'tcha bother me

Time

It's all over now

19th nervous breakdown

Just off the top. There are probably a few dozen more. You absolutely have a big heart, and are touched by the sadness of the suicide.

realize however, the lyrics behind a particular song written four decades before have as much bearing on it as a C&W song about trucks, trains, dogs and pick up trucks.

ps, I kinda like the song, especially brian jones on the xylophone.

38 posted on 03/29/2014 10:36:33 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: RegulatorCountry
I agree; but when you look at pictures of them together, he looked so very happy at last; genuine smiles, and always with their arms around each other's waists. He stuck around her for a long time, presumably mellowed, involving her with his grown children and family activities.

It's a terrible shame he still reserved the right to run around, the eternal 60s rocker at his age (70); and that she didn't have the strength to find someone who would really love her, or to stand alone without him after he had pulled her into his rarefied orbit. She had been doing well on her own as a movie stylist in LA before she took up with him.

39 posted on 03/29/2014 10:37:45 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: going hot

Understand: I accept that what’s done is done and can’t be undone. But I just hope for the sake of her beauty and fragility that he avoids some of those types of lyrics going forward, assuming he does perform again. They cancelled their Austrailan tour when this happened, but are rescheduling it.


40 posted on 03/29/2014 10:40:45 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Albion Wilde

I hope he performs it in a joint live session with ZZ Top. I have to lose a song because she did that? Is she so clean that the world needs to lose a song in her honor? Please,,,


41 posted on 03/29/2014 10:42:26 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: going hot

Marimbas, not xylophone.


42 posted on 03/29/2014 10:43:27 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: DesertRhino
I have to lose a song because she did that? Is she so clean that the world needs to lose a song in her honor? Please,,,

You've never lost someone before their time, right? It ain't pretty.

The songs will still be there on records. But there is something obscene about singing such misogyny in the months after her death. It would be like those guys with a 30-year marriage and four grown kids who seek an annulment from the Catholic Church so they can marry their secretary. Leaves a bad taste. Please is right.

43 posted on 03/29/2014 10:47:44 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Albion Wilde

Great song, actually. Like Sundown and Every Breath You Take, true poetic expressions of male anger. I’m interested in the male point of view when it comes to women - the good and the bad.

She committed suicide because she was in huge debt. You might be surprised how being in debt can cause suicidal feelings. Poor lady but Under My Thumb had nothing to do with it.


44 posted on 03/29/2014 10:49:57 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: DesertRhino

Two of the biggest supporters of Under My Thumb are Rush Limbaugh and his old pal, Camille Paglia. She writes very eloquently about this song. No song ever led to a suicide.


45 posted on 03/29/2014 10:56:06 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: 9YearLurker

Ah! The Stones,,,,, loved their first three albums, then started getting conflicted. Mick had become a charicature of himself,,, Keef was a full-blown junkie,,,, still,,, they made some great stuff. After Keef got schooled by Ry Cooder, they put out some great songs, but still,,,,,,,....


46 posted on 03/29/2014 10:57:57 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: nickcarraway
Stand corrected. Still one of my favorites.
47 posted on 03/29/2014 10:58:43 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Albion Wilde

If we go by that standard, we’ll be left with very little music. Silliness. And also ungrateful. Even in collapse of a business, she had a lifestyle that many can only dream of, and millions in the bank.

And she threw away the one most precious thing a human can possess. Her life as a “failure” would be a pampered lifestyle for most people.


48 posted on 03/29/2014 11:00:49 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: miss marmelstein

Many on this thread are trying to fit the past into the future. Of course what he wrote in the 60s has nothing to do with the suicide — seriously?

I’m just hoping he has a dawning awareness of how destructive the hedonist lifestyle can be for some people, and how the whole 60s schtick is increasingly bankrupt, and not necessarily a good thing to be promoting to newer, younger audiences faced with an entirely different, greatly more dangerous and fragile world than the one he grew up in and the moral order against which which he rebelled. He grew up in an intact family, and apparently craves his children’s attention; I read that they actually used Biblical passages at the funeral. Under that bravado there is a heart.


49 posted on 03/29/2014 11:01:23 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: miss marmelstein

interesting,,


50 posted on 03/29/2014 11:01:49 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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