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Evidence the Hawaii Medical Examiner turned a blind eye to the death of Loretta Fuddy
birtherreport ^ | March 31, 2014 | Linda Jordan

Posted on 03/31/2014 10:55:40 AM PDT by ethical

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To: Jim Robinson; butterdezillion

Jim, one of the most attractive features of FreeRepublic is that it offers its readers the opportunity to brainstorm pertinent contemporary issues. As you no doubt intended, those issues include concerns that may reach the highest and most important levels of our nation.

In fact, your tagline: “Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!” can be read in our current setting as a battle cry for all Freepers, not just individually but as a nationwide group of patriots. Our nation is currently in a struggle for its soul, and it is today quite valid to think in terms of a tyrannical government.

There has been a lot of pure speculation at the national political level since 2008 and some, perhaps even much of it has come true. One hopes FR will continue to operate as it has, and allow its contributors to explore and exchange ideas however seemingly outlandish or intellectually provocative.


141 posted on 04/03/2014 2:25:03 PM PDT by frog in a pot (We are all "frogs in a pot" now. How and when will we real Americans jump out?)
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To: frog in a pot

Which is why I prefer to keep the really nutty stuff off FR. Thanks


142 posted on 04/03/2014 2:31:00 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: butterdezillion
I don't claim to know, but am gaming all possibilities.

It seems odd to me that in a person with no history of cardiac problems, they keep hammering on the arrhythmia thing. Lots of people live for a long time with arrhythmia, even untreated, but first off, to determine rhythm in a heartbeat, you have to have one.

I don't see how that could be determined from stopped heart.

But arrhythmia (like tachycardia or bradycardia) can be induced.

The first thing that came to mind were the butyl/amyl nitrate drugs, liquid form, inhaled, sudden and strong effect on cardiac function, and I question whether there would be enough left to do a tox screen on (especially after a couple of days.

Then there is the old prussic acid standby, which also does not show in autopsy.

Neither drug would give long for anyone to so much as squawk, both could be administered in the water, and the remainder allowed to sink or drift away.

No evidence, sudden death mimicking heart failure, and a sanitized tale for the tourists. Those on board (with one or two exceptions) need not ever know anything.

143 posted on 04/03/2014 2:31:23 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: butterdezillion

Sorry but I have not been following this post. In fact I spend less and less time at FR. That is not to say you should not stick up for the work you have done thus far.


144 posted on 04/03/2014 2:33:16 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Why would you plan to kill someone in a plane crash, but poison them first? sheesh. You can make the plot as elaborate as you want, but at some point it just becomes silly.


145 posted on 04/03/2014 3:23:21 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: Jim Robinson

There’s stuff in the video that didn’t get there by accident. I’ve welcomed people giving their theories about what that stuff is and why that stuff is there.

For instance, what appears on the video to be a wave with sunlight shimmering off it turns around at one point and you can see what appears to be the face of a black man in a gray hoodie-type outfit, with a yellow light at the top of the “hood”. I showed that image and asked “What do you see?”

Nobody addressed that, but it is there and it is bizarre. Why was that there?

Ive given my theories and if you think they’re crazy that’s fine. If you can give reasons that my theory is impossible that would be good. And if you can give a theory that better matches all the evidence that would be best. I’d love to hear your theory for why this stuff was out there. That’s why I asked the questions.

As theories are brought forth the evidence in the video and other evidence can be considered to either support or refute that theory - as others are able to use evidence to either support or refute my theories. Because of the set-up of Free Republic, that kind of analysis is made possible here in a way it is not possible in other places. That is the glory of Free Republic and a large part of why it has so many followers and contributors (including myself) making sure it continues to exist. The free exchange of ideas and information allows theories to be fully vetted and stand or fall on their own merit.


146 posted on 04/03/2014 3:31:37 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: butterdezillion

Give me a break.


147 posted on 04/03/2014 3:35:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: humblegunner

I would first have to hear your reasons for saying there is an alien language displayed in that tree bark. What is your evidence for believing this is not just what we normally think it is?

When you present your evidence than I can address content.

That is an evidence-based epistemology, and that is why I have always, to the best of my ability, presented the evidence that leads me to conclude there’s something strange. Stuff like signs of photoshopping, pixelating videos, stuff like faces/bodies, goggles, masks, cylindrical tubes in the water, discrepancies in the stories, information being known before it could have been known if the story is taken at face value...

We know that ABC pixelated their videos. Why do you think they did it? They refused to let me post a slowed-down youtube video of what they had already posted publicly so it wasn’t a matter of bandwidth, etc.

Why did the news media report at 4:40 that there was one dead, when 37 minutes later the “dead” person was labeled as being in critical condition?

I could go on and on with anomalies that raise legitimate questions - because these are NOT “normal” things like a tree with bark. You could try arguing that it is normal for the news media to know somebody is dead before they are dead. You could show me how that happens every day... Etc. Just as I could show you tree after tree after tree that has bark similar to what is on that tree...


148 posted on 04/03/2014 3:43:48 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: bigdaddy45
I'm brainstorming possibilities, here, not saying all of these things happened. So let's sort out scenarios, shall we, because a little muddle leads to mass confusion.

Since the plan was to have her fly to the other island, and that the plane's take off was delayed, maybe the plan was not to have the plane crash, but to arrive at its destination in no shape to take off again, losing power on final or the pre-take off run up.

Given that, poison administered before the flight would have had time to act, the 'distress' would have occurred on dry land, without means (or requiring alternate transport--all time consuming) to get back to better medical care in a timely fashion, leading to Fuddy's demise.

Enter Mr. Murphy (of Murphy's Law), and the take off is delayed, the malfunction occurs over water, which has the same net effect, and Fuddy checks out while in the drink, provided the accounts are even true (there are inconsistencies in the story).

Alternatively, the plane was intentionally disabled in the air, the ditching was intentional, arrhythmia was induced by the administration of either injected or inhaled drugs (the amyl/butyl nitrate) leading to Fuddy's death (which would require a minimum of one accomplice on board, and a very competent pilot who need not have been in on it).

All these are possibilities, not a theory.

What consistently bugs me is that arrhythmia is cited as the cause of death, in someone who had no heart problems. Not myocardial infarction, but arrhythmia. You gotta have a beat to not have rhythm. How could that (and by all means, someone more qualified in cardiology than I am, correct me if I am wrong) arrhythmia be seen in autopsy? Especially if not previously diagnosed?

Sudden cardiac failure? Okay. But arrhythmia?

Or alternatively, Fuddy just checked out, her number was up, hit her breath limit. The fact that she could have been a vital witness, co-conspirator, or otherwise shed light on the very questionable alleged 'fake but true' birth documents of the usurper in the White House possibly leading to the negation of not only his 'executive orders' but a reversal of a host of UnConstitutional strides toward totalitarianism in this country is just a coincidence.

...too many feathers there to not cry fowl!

149 posted on 04/03/2014 3:46:33 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: butterdezillion

I’ve looked at the FOG a few times. No DUmpster diving or Kossacking for me anymore. The BS is too thick. There is only anonymity for the Obots anymore. I would like whomever is affiliated with any of those sites to have the guts to admit it.


150 posted on 04/03/2014 3:51:27 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: butterdezillion; Jim Robinson

Well, hold up now.
You have claimed (want links?) right here on this thread that
Free Republic moderators have participated in the mockery and
hijacking and muzzling and locking and title-changing of your thread.

Then Jim says he did it his own self.

You had said that these outrageous things were done by some
rogue moderator who is part of some fogbowl conspiracy and
what was meant to corrupt Free Republic right before our
very eyes, because of corruption and stuff. And infiltration.

So if JIM did it.. does not then the corruption rise to the very TOP
of Free Republic? Is that not itself a huge piece of news?

You should make this public. It is hugh and series.


151 posted on 04/03/2014 3:54:55 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Smokin' Joe

But the people in the plane did know something was going on. There’s a still shot of Jacob Key - with his watch on his wrist - holding onto an extremely dark-skinned guy with black eyewear just below the water’s surface (the skin of this extra person was so dark that Jacob’s arm looks really light by comparison).

I could show you similar images for the others too - where the passengers from the plane had to be aware of the presence of this other person. For instance, what everybody thinks is the shirt of the guy standing on the plane’s steps is actually the back of the head of a guy who seemed to be looking out for Rosa. He was right behind her. He’s wearing a maroon tearaway t-shirt with a white tag. When you look at the whole sequence you can see him moving about, turning, surfacing and going under again. He’s right there by Rosa.

There’s stuff like that for just about everybody who was a passenger on that plane. I was hoping people would look for themselves at the slowed-down frames and catch this stuff, but I suppose ABC’s pixelation makes it too hard to tell what you’re seeing.

Anyway, it seems evident to me that they all knew something was going on. So whatever they were doing, it very much seems like they did it with the knowledge of everybody there.


152 posted on 04/03/2014 4:01:54 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: humblegunner; Jim Robinson

OK, Jim, because I don’t want to wrongly accuse anybody of anything, I’ll ask you straight-up: Did you do all the things I mentioned?

Did you gag me in the middle of my first “What Do You See?” thread?

Did you refuse to allow me to post a new thread on new content?

Did you move my blog post to breaking news?

Did you gag at least one of my supporters when the new thread was posted?

Did you change the thread title every half-hour or so?

Did you remove the comments of my supporters in the thread that was finally posted?

Did you lock the thread so the comments of the fogbow “sock puppets” would stand as if they were the entire Freeper response to what I was saying, rather than giving a warning to the commenters and deleting their comments as is the usual custom?

Which of those actions specifically did you do? Was there a moderator involved in any of those actions?


153 posted on 04/03/2014 4:09:46 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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We hardly know this President, which does make it easier with all the oddities that surround the man, the press that refuse to dig/report, for almost any coincidence/occurrence to be suspicious. Unfortunately for the American People, we will never get the REAL story of Barry.


154 posted on 04/03/2014 4:13:18 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: machogirl

Unfortunately for the American People, we will never get the REAL story of Barry.


I don’t agree; I think the ccp has a lot of info and they will not shut up or give up.


155 posted on 04/03/2014 4:16:56 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: butterdezillion
Did you gag at least one of my supporters when the new thread was posted?

You have supporters?

Do you derive financial support from these supporters?

Is there an infiltration of FR of these "supporters"?

What have these supporters to do with content here on FR?

Can you list these, and their functions?

156 posted on 04/03/2014 4:18:08 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: machogirl

In this instance the press has done far more than just refuse to dig. In this case they actively edited the Puentes video to hide critical points. They deliberately pixelated the GMA and Nightline videos on their site when they were warned to do so by somebody on my ping list on the same day as I Freepmailed my ping list to ask them to save the video files before they disappeared.

ABC knows what is on those videos, and they edited them and zipped them past everybody so they could say the video debunks those who think the crash was suspicious. They pixelated them to keep anybody from seeing what was actually in the videos - as soon as they found out I was looking at them. And they did it with the help of somebody on Free Republic who is pretending to be a friend to me and to this issue. A mole at Free Republic, working with ABC to hide what’s really on this video.

That’s treachery not only by ABC but also treachery going on here at Free Republic. If the video supported the official story line, nobody would want to hide these videos. ABC and the mole both know this video contains incriminating evidence.


157 posted on 04/03/2014 4:28:12 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: humblegunner; Jim Robinson

I have people who recognize the value and quality of the evidence I bring forward. In the vernacular: supporters.

But I asked Jim, not you.


158 posted on 04/03/2014 4:30:25 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: little jeremiah

I hope so, but will it be in time to save this Country?


159 posted on 04/03/2014 4:34:09 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: butterdezillion

Damned if I can remember the blow by blow nitty gritty detail or care. Your two planes because of different window configuration theory was pure grade a nutbattery as is your one-armed bandit in the water and ABC pixelation theories. Sheesh, give it a rest already with the cock-eyed conspiracy theories.

Everyone knows it was Col Mustard in the library with a lead pipe.


160 posted on 04/03/2014 4:34:57 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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