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Canned Food Gone Bad
Ferfal Blog Spot ^ | 3/29/14

Posted on 03/31/2014 4:34:48 PM PDT by Kartographer

Now that’s theory and it does apply but as we know sometimes things just don’t work out as well. Today my wife was opening a can of chopped tomatoes and as soon as the can was pierced the contents burst out in all directions. While there was no swelling, pressure had clearly built up inside, a clear sign of decomposition. The food inside didn’t smell awfully bad, but it didn’t smell good either.

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Canned food is one of the best value for your dollar you can get for your food storage, but you need to monitor it. I myself recently went through my storage and found 3 cans of Spam two cans were sollowen and the third sound like an oil can when squezzed all three can were lest than a year old. I sent information from the cans to Hormel and they sent me coupons to replace the bad cans. Thunbs up for Hormel on standing behind their product!!
1 posted on 03/31/2014 4:34:48 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


2 posted on 03/31/2014 4:35:09 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

The steamboat Bertrand was heavily laden with provisions when it set out on
the Missouri River in 1865, destined for the gold mining camps in Fort
Benton, Mont. The boat snagged and swamped under the weight, sinking to the
bottom of the river. It was found a century later, under 30 feet of silt a
little north of Omaha, Neb.

Among the canned food items retrieved from the Bertrand in 1968 were brandied
peaches, oysters, plum tomatoes, honey, and mixed vegetables. In 1974,
chemists at the National Food Processors Association (NFPA) analyzed the
products for bacterial contamination and nutrient value. Although the food
had lost its fresh smell and appearance, the NFPA chemists detected no
microbial growth and determined that the foods were as safe to eat as they
had been when canned more than 100 years earlier.

http://web.archive.org/web/20070509153848/http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/CONSUMER/CON00043.html


3 posted on 03/31/2014 4:35:58 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Thanks, Kart. I have a lot of canned goods in my supplies that are due for rotation/discarding.

I’ve also been looking in to dehydrating veggies/meats/fruits. You can store massive quantities in minimal space for MANY years, and lose no nutritional value.


4 posted on 03/31/2014 4:39:20 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Kartographer


5 posted on 03/31/2014 4:42:56 PM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: Kartographer

Which version of Spam was it?


6 posted on 03/31/2014 4:45:56 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Kartographer

I have had so many cans of tomato products like tomato paste, or crushed tomatoes that spew when I open them, that I just started using them anyway, so far I haven’t gotten sick.


7 posted on 03/31/2014 4:47:47 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Jane Long
You do have to know what you are doing, and practice, if you intend to use dehydrated foods to prepare meals. Using them effectively is important.

/johnny

8 posted on 03/31/2014 4:47:50 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer
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9 posted on 03/31/2014 4:49:02 PM PDT by ClaytonP
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To: Kartographer

I had a jar of Kraft mayonnaise go bad on me a couple of days ago. It was just reaching it’s “use by” date. I first noticed it did not taste quite right so I smelled it and sure enough it was bad. The thing which makes me a bit concerned is that my refrigerator is very cold. I had used about two thirds of it.

I called their toll free number and they are sending me a coupon. Still it should not have happened.


10 posted on 03/31/2014 4:54:09 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Kartographer
sollowen

stealing that for my book

11 posted on 03/31/2014 4:55:54 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: Kartographer

And watch out for acidic foods. I’ve had sauerkraut eat its way out. Kind of smelly.


12 posted on 03/31/2014 4:58:44 PM PDT by discostu (Call it collect, call it direct, call it TODAY!)
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To: JoeProBono

That’s what your stomach looks like after eating that.


13 posted on 03/31/2014 4:59:09 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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To: JoeProBono

That’s what your stomach looks like after eating that.


14 posted on 03/31/2014 5:00:21 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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To: JRandomFreeper; Kartographer

I agree. It’s an art getting this dehydrating thing down.

I did find this website that I’ve been obsessed with, lately. She shows how she dehydrates and demo’s recipes with her dehydrated goodies...

http://dehydrate2store.com

She uses an Excalibur dehydrator, I believe.


15 posted on 03/31/2014 5:06:26 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: ansel12; Kartographer

Most likely there was a bit of fermentation that went on and possibly over fill before sealing


16 posted on 03/31/2014 5:06:57 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Kartographer

So I just need to store my food at the bottom of the Missouri. River


17 posted on 03/31/2014 5:07:53 PM PDT by inpajamas (http://outskirtspress.com/ONE)
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To: bigheadfred

I give up my coyrights to you! ;-)


18 posted on 03/31/2014 5:10:43 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: ansel12

Just the regular.


19 posted on 03/31/2014 5:11:09 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Jane Long
Dehydrating foods isn't that difficult. Using the dehydrated food to make tempting meals can be. I've got the live-in chef, so I've got an advantage in that regard. ;)

/johnny

20 posted on 03/31/2014 5:12:23 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JoeProBono

Um, that’s what happens AFTER you eat the soup. I like it on chopped spinach, no water added.


21 posted on 03/31/2014 5:13:15 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Kartographer
THANKS!

I started writing it in 2007...

Bigheadfred's Incomprehensible And Incoherent Rantography

22 posted on 03/31/2014 5:16:06 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: Kartographer

Similar story, of 115 year old meat from the 1845 expedition to the arctic, that was opened and fed to rats with no ill effects:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2293&dat=19390430&id=Yc4mAAAAIBAJ&sjid=bwIGAAAAIBAJ&pg=988,2417216


23 posted on 03/31/2014 5:16:30 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Kartographer

Oops, that was the 1824 expedition, not 1845.


24 posted on 03/31/2014 5:17:03 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Kartographer

Man, that is a problem.

I was convinced that Spam had an extremely long shelf life, like decades, and I have kept it for 5 6 7 years without even thinking about it, but I had a case of the low sodium swell on me recently (maybe 2012) well under the best use by date, and it has bothered me ever since.

Hormel paid me back, but I was hoping that it was a freak occurrence from a compromised batch, and possible related to being low sodium.

I have been trying not to mention it here although it really bugs me, and it contradicts advice that I have been giving people for at least 25 years, I do think that I brought it up here once but I’m annoyed enough that I have been tempted to harp on it.

I’ve been meaning to write them and see if I can get an honest answer from them, a large portion of preppers believe Spam to be one of the best ultra long term storage foods, and we need some answers from Hormel.


25 posted on 03/31/2014 5:22:59 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Nifster
Surströmming is a canned product known to expand a the ends of cans, and still be good.

That is, if you like that type of stuff. People in the general vicinity of a fresh...er, newly opened can have reported hazardous material leaking.

26 posted on 03/31/2014 5:40:41 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Kartographer

Yeah, but who wants to be the first one to sample them ?


27 posted on 03/31/2014 5:43:00 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Kartographer

28 posted on 03/31/2014 5:43:45 PM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: ansel12
ansel12:".. Spam to be one of the best ultra long term storage foods, and we need some answers from Hormel."

I agree we need some kind of resonse.
Many people are counting on Spam for meat/ protein to supplement their storage program .

29 posted on 03/31/2014 5:44:03 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: inpajamas

With your guns?


30 posted on 03/31/2014 5:49:39 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob ("The Pen" has a nice ring to it, kind of like "Graybar Hotel")
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To: Jane Long

Thanks for the link. I’ve got a new dehydrator, but haven’t used it yet.


31 posted on 03/31/2014 5:53:24 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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To: Godzilla; yarddog

I’m sure it was because of the mayo in the potato salad.


32 posted on 03/31/2014 5:53:26 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Kartographer

It was probably filled with botulism, so rub the contents into your wrinkles.

Jk.


33 posted on 03/31/2014 5:54:45 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: PistolPaknMama

You’re welcome. Which dehydrator do you have? I have a small, round type, but I’d love to have the Excalibur.


34 posted on 03/31/2014 5:56:09 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: FreedomPoster

I remember President Eisenhower got sick at some function from something he ate. This was back in the 50s. I am pretty sure it was potato salad.


35 posted on 03/31/2014 5:59:24 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

I sure have been counting on Spam, one thing I still trust, is canned tuna, I’m still eating from my “best by 2003” stocks of that.


36 posted on 03/31/2014 6:00:42 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Kartographer

At training camp for officers before WWI, my Great Grandfather noticed that the canned foods looked familiar from his experience in the Spanish American War (and they hadn’t been new then), so he got some guys to load up a belt fed machine gun (Colt Potato Digger?) and proceed to the nearby wetlands where he proceeded to hose down about 500 ducks at dawn.


37 posted on 03/31/2014 6:03:27 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Calvin Locke

“According to a Japanese study, a newly opened can of surströmming has one of the most putrid food smells in the world, even more so than similarly fermented ...”


38 posted on 03/31/2014 6:03:55 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

TR claimed his men got tainted canned army beef in Cuba. If they then kept it until 1917 then it really would have been bad.


39 posted on 03/31/2014 6:08:27 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: ansel12
ansel12 :"..one thing I still trust, is canned tuna, I’m still eating from my “best by 2003” stocks of that."

Thanks to you , I started going through my mini-pantry.
Among many things ,I found a can of tomatoes dated 2/2001 that I was going to use for Chili
No bulges , no rust on the can , .. but why risk it due to the high acidity ? So out it goes .
I would store tuna , but mayonaise doesnt store well, especially un-refridgerated .

40 posted on 03/31/2014 6:18:18 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Jane Long

SausageMaker(tm) makes all stainless steel dehydrators. The only parts not ss are the electrical. I have owned one of theirs since 2006 and am very pleased.


41 posted on 03/31/2014 6:24:06 PM PDT by SisterK (behold a pale horse)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Warning: do not drink beer and start snacking on dehydrated onions.


42 posted on 03/31/2014 6:25:54 PM PDT by SisterK (behold a pale horse)
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To: ansel12

I think they just weren’t seal properly. I am sure it happens. I have a good number of cans much older, but they are all in good shape.


43 posted on 03/31/2014 6:28:00 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: SisterK
That's a recipe for disaster. Ouch.

/johnny

44 posted on 03/31/2014 6:30:44 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
The last of the Civil War hardtack was finally used in the Spanish American war. There were a LOT of complaints.

Nothing but the best for our troops.

/johnny

45 posted on 03/31/2014 6:33:03 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

I would have used those tomatoes without question.


46 posted on 03/31/2014 6:35:13 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Calvin Locke

good to know


47 posted on 03/31/2014 6:43:43 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: discostu
And watch out for acidic foods. I’ve had sauerkraut eat its way out. Kind of smelly.

Yep. At our house a big can of pineapple juice exploded inside a cabinet last year. What a mess!

48 posted on 03/31/2014 6:46:11 PM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: FreedomPoster
“I’m sure it was because of the mayo in the potato salad.”

No. Back before companies had to put dates on cans, I called Hellman's Mayonnaise company to ask about mayonnaise. They said the reason mayo went bad many years ago, was, companies used uncooked eggs. Today, all ingredients are pasteurized. Many people still believe mayo is a killer due to that history, but mayo is safe to be in potato salad and taken on a picnic or at a party or a church social - safe taken anywhere. Treat it as you would treat any fresh food.

49 posted on 03/31/2014 6:47:35 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Kartographer
Hey Kart, being at 6,000' in altitude probably contributes a little to that. I know everything I open here wants to explode.

My dog's ball stays nice an inflated here. When we visit the folks in Idaho, the ball tends to go a bit flat. The first time it happened, I thought she'd finally punctured it, but we brought it back home and it firmed back up.

50 posted on 03/31/2014 7:28:02 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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