Skip to comments.MH370: New last words from cockpit: 'Good night Malaysian three seven zero'
Posted on 04/01/2014 6:14:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia (CNN) -- They were words heard around the world as investigators searched for the missing Malaysia Airlines plane.
Weeks ago, Malaysian authorities said the last message from the airplane cockpit was, "All right, good night."...
There's only one problem. It turns out, it wasn't true.
On Monday, Malaysia's Transport Ministry said the final voice transmission from the cockpit of Flight 370 was actually "Good night Malaysian three seven zero."
Malaysian authorities gave no explanation for the discrepancy between the two quotes. And authorities are still trying to determine whether it was the plane's pilot or copilot who said them.
The new language is routine and is not a sign that anything untoward occurred aboard the flight, said CNN aviation analyst Mary Schiavo.
But the change in wording weeks into the search for the missing plane raises questions about how Malaysian officials have handled the investigation.
"It speaks to credibility issues, unfortunately," Schiavo said.
"We haven't had a straight, clear word that we can have a lot of fidelity in," said Michael Goldfarb, former chief of staff at the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration.
"We have the tragedy of the crash, we have the tragedy of an investigation gone awry and then we have questions about where we go from here."
No matter what the pilots' last words were, it's hard to understand what they mean without more details from authorities about what they said and how they said it, CNN aviation analyst Miles O'Brien told "The Lead with Jake Tapper" on Monday.
"Without the preceding information ... either the transcript or the recordings themselves, it's difficult to know what any of that really means," he said. "And that's the problem with this investigation, which has been so opaque."
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And unfortunately that appears to be what the Malaysians intend.
Mary Schiavo talking about credibility issues. Laughable.
Sounds like something a tower operator would say to the pilots. - Tom
How do the words “All right, good night” sound anything like “Good night Malaysian three seven zero”???
Are the Malaysians living in the real world???
I was thinking the same thing.
Have the Malaysians disclosed what fragrance was used in the onboard Lavatories...whether Island Breeze or Pine Nut Scent? Why are they not telling?
I’m sure CNN will be on the olfactory trail of that delicious tidbit and will introduce the aromatic answer in a Breaking News segment tonight.
<>Sounds like something a tower operator would say to the pilots.<>
Yep — it sure does.
Here is what they said the transcript was 3 weeks ago:
Exactly right. Why would the pilots say goodnight to themselves?
Actually that’s the proper call you would expect. You could put a comma after Good night. What the flight member is saying is “Good Night” and this is Malaysian three seven zero that is saying “Good night”. Otherwise the controller would have no definitive method in determining who is speaking to him if there were multiple flights on frequency. In Vietnam sometimes I would have upwards of ten or more flights of fighters on frequency and I really needed to be sure who I was speaking with.
i think the plane was made from GM parts
Also, in Malaysian is "Good night" only for the end of conversation or is it like "buenos noches" in Spanish which can be used as a greeting after dark? Although pilots speak English on international flights, their native languages' idiosyncrasies can come out.
These folks are lying through their teeth.
Me thinks Malaysia has sent everyone on a wild goose chase.
Pssst....try Pakistan. A million dollars to some controller and poof..."I saw nothing".
And yet his call all throughout on the transcript at Post 7 was consistently "This is MH370" not "Malasian 370".
Why would the sign off differ from earlier communication???
Very good point and one I overlooked. Thanks.
True - especially when being handed off to another controller. I heard transmissions from the deck such as “Hello Seattle this is United 3434” ...nothing unusual. I guess time will tell.
Give them enough time and they'll report that the real, real final voice transmission from the cockpit of Flight 370 was "Goodnight, Mrs. Calabash, wherever you are."
The Malaysian government doesn’t seem to be in a rush to find the plane. One would think with the batteries on the black box reaching their 30 day limit the search would be at a more frantic pace but nope. The Malays are hiding something from the world, maybe out of fear of the Chinese government, or possibly the Chinese know something too and are telling them to cool their heels.
“Sounds like something a tower operator would say to the pilots. - Tom”
Sounds like Malaysia Air is signing off from Malaysia control while being vectored to new Vietnamese airspace controllers.
The Malaysian government is lying over and over again. It is my belief that the pilot held the passengers for ransom to release the political opposition leader imprisoned for “homosexual acts” the day before this event. Captain Shah actually went to the sentencing and wore a shirt that said “Democracy is dead” . In this scenario the Malaysian government refused to comply with the release request and doomed the passengers to death. Thus the cover up.
I reckon they dropped the callsign, is all
What I’ve been thinking all along. This plane has been repainted and renumbered “magic carpet” in Iran getting ready for the 2nd coming of Allah.
NO DEBRIS??? I guess the next scenario we’ll have promoted is that the plane actually landed like the one on the Hudson and suffered no damage, only sank intact, no debris. Yeah right, in the South Indian Ocean with 30 foot waves routine.
If the damn thing crashed in the ocean there would be SOME floating debris.
20 tons of gold
20 tons of gold
So, someone please explain to me (I only have a public education) how anyone with half a brain can get the last words wrong?? And, didn’t they spend a lot of time figuring out who spoke the wrong words???
And, the search was initially north (even though they knew the plane turned south), then west, then south, then not so far south.
The Malaysians are either incompetent, hiding something, or (my preference) both!!!
That’s what my hubby thinks. He thinks there may have been valuable cargo aboard that was worth killing the passengers over.
The other question on that transcript is that it appears that ATC is calling out to MH370 at 01:01:19 and it doesn’t respond for 7 minutes and then when it does it just repeats an earlier transmission.
Then at 01:08:00 ATC calls out to them again and MH370 never responds.
Then 10 minutes go by with no response from MH370.
Then at 01:19:24 ATC tells them “please contact Hu Chi Minh City”.
I suspect that ATC suspected a problem and if they didn’t they should have.
And I also suspect that there was no signoff at 01:19:29 — period. That claim is pure Malaysian fiction to cover their rear ends for not acting on these suspicions sooner.
This story is almost done - and it’s turning into a “DB Cooper” story now, with all the crazy speculation.
And in a few days this list will be done. I dont think well hear much more since the Chinese have come out so strongly that theyre all dead! This will join DB Cooper in the mystery hall of fame.
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The problem here is that international law puts the Malaysians in control of the investigation but until the Malaysians sign over the investigation to someone else, this investigation is going nowhere and nothing of any significance will be pulled out of the ocean. And unfortunately that appears to be what the Malaysians intend.
Then witness response from the Maly-Gainsay-Olympics. . .
Why are Malaysian lawmakers kept in the dark over MH370, asks DAPLim said US officials close to the investigation said that the FBI examined data it received from Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah's flight simulator, but found nothing illuminating. Lim said clearly, US lawmakers were kept in the loop by US investigators into the missing MH370 and were regularly informed of the latest updates. "It is not the case in Malaysia as MPs, whether from Barisan Nasional or Pakatan Rakyat, are kept completely in the dark about the developments of the MH370 crisis," Lim said. "Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 is at the centre of the biggest and longest ever multinational search and rescue operation for a missing aircraft," Lim said.
Plane was highjacked and shot down by the Malay government . . imho
Hishammuddin has expressed frustration at the failure of international agencies, and the makes of plane and its engines, Boeing and Rolls-Royce, to explain what went wrong.
In an interview with Chinese TV he said it was unfair for Malaysian Airlines to take all the criticism and it was time for international companies and agencies involved in the hunt to "stand out there".
You are correct. That exchange would never pass muster as a radar handoff. Normally ATC would ask the aircrew to “squawk flash” prior to a handoff.
As I thought about this, I’m surprised to see just “MH” being transmitted. Keep in mind I’ve been away from controlling for a few decades but I would expect to hear “Mike Hotel 370” or “Malaysian Heavy 370”. I’ve lost a great deal of my hearing because we had the radios turned so loud to try to understand what was said, so probably the radios are much clearer now and there’s no need to use phonic call signs.
Next on CNN: Which crew members had chicken for dinner, and which crew membes had the fish?
Note to Mr Hishammuddin:
Boeing 777s are flown by nearly every nation in Asia and they don’t just fall out of the sky.
Why is it that it only happens to yours???
See post 34
>> “Boeing 777s are flown by nearly every nation in Asia and they dont just fall out of the sky.
Why is it that it only happens to yours???” <<
His didn’t either.
See post 34 for the crack in somebody’s armor.
This is news?
These people are dead.
I agree we should continue to search. But they are dead. This is not news. They are scraping at the bottom of the barrel. Time to move on to important items.
At least one of them lived long enough to snap a picture with his Iphone 5 from Diego Garcia.
You know ... I’m typing this on an iPad, which has the same operating system as the iPhone. One of the nice things about this iPad, is that I can take pictures and know where they’ve been taken. It also shows the direction I was shooting, along with all the other information.
Now, sometimes, the EXIF information is wrong in regards to the coordinates (slightly off) and I don’t know why it does that, but a few show up that way. So I went looming for something to change the information so I could put it back in the correct location. Anyway, the point is - I can change that information and show a different location than was originally recorded. This can be done. I’ve actually done it on mine.
I dont have an answer . .
I read that, and I don’t know what to make of it. If they are on DG, it would only have been a matter of time for the US to point out where the debris is, because that’s where they put it.
There is no other “military” on DG except us marines and navy seals.
And, if we are holding them for three weeks like that, they are dead.
Plus...if WE are holding them like that, it puts the whole 9/11 truther/Zionist conspiracy back in play.
I love a good conspiracy, but I simply cannot get my head around that.
On an iPhone the GPS is not GPS. It’s triangulation between cell towers or wifi.
So, if you don’t have access to more than one source, it will approximate.
It’s not accurate at all, relatively speaking.
I can fill you in on why the coordinates are off slightly.
My small hand held GPS locator is always a few hundred yards off from the data on my high precision surveying receivers, even before processing the data. It takes a long time for the hand held units to achieve an accurate position.
>> “On an iPhone the GPS is not GPS. Its triangulation between cell towers or wifi” <<
Its both. The GPS tracking can be turned off, but the system tracking can’t.
You can add to the exif data, but you cannot actually change it. You can also delete it completely.