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MH370: New last words from cockpit: 'Good night Malaysian three seven zero'
CNN ^ | April 1, 2014 | Catherine E. Shoichet, Faith Karimi and KJ Kwon, CNN

Posted on 04/01/2014 6:14:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia (CNN) -- They were words heard around the world as investigators searched for the missing Malaysia Airlines plane.

Weeks ago, Malaysian authorities said the last message from the airplane cockpit was, "All right, good night."...

There's only one problem. It turns out, it wasn't true.

On Monday, Malaysia's Transport Ministry said the final voice transmission from the cockpit of Flight 370 was actually "Good night Malaysian three seven zero."

Malaysian authorities gave no explanation for the discrepancy between the two quotes. And authorities are still trying to determine whether it was the plane's pilot or copilot who said them.

The new language is routine and is not a sign that anything untoward occurred aboard the flight, said CNN aviation analyst Mary Schiavo.

But the change in wording weeks into the search for the missing plane raises questions about how Malaysian officials have handled the investigation.

"It speaks to credibility issues, unfortunately," Schiavo said.

"We haven't had a straight, clear word that we can have a lot of fidelity in," said Michael Goldfarb, former chief of staff at the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration.

"We have the tragedy of the crash, we have the tragedy of an investigation gone awry and then we have questions about where we go from here."

No matter what the pilots' last words were, it's hard to understand what they mean without more details from authorities about what they said and how they said it, CNN aviation analyst Miles O'Brien told "The Lead with Jake Tapper" on Monday.

"Without the preceding information ... either the transcript or the recordings themselves, it's difficult to know what any of that really means," he said. "And that's the problem with this investigation, which has been so opaque."

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The problem here is that international law puts the Malaysians in control of the investigation but until the Malaysians sign over the investigation to someone else, this investigation is going nowhere and nothing of any significance will be pulled out of the ocean.

And unfortunately that appears to be what the Malaysians intend.

1 posted on 04/01/2014 6:14:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Mary Schiavo talking about credibility issues. Laughable.


2 posted on 04/01/2014 6:16:56 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Uncle Chip
On Monday, Malaysia's Transport Ministry said the final voice transmission from the cockpit of Flight 370 was actually "Good night Malaysian three seven zero."

Sounds like something a tower operator would say to the pilots. - Tom

3 posted on 04/01/2014 6:22:56 AM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse U.S. citizens and Americans. They are not necessarily the same. -tom)
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How do the words “All right, good night” sound anything like “Good night Malaysian three seven zero”???

Are the Malaysians living in the real world???


4 posted on 04/01/2014 6:23:19 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Capt. Tom

I was thinking the same thing.


5 posted on 04/01/2014 6:24:38 AM PDT by battlecry
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To: Uncle Chip

Have the Malaysians disclosed what fragrance was used in the onboard Lavatories...whether Island Breeze or Pine Nut Scent? Why are they not telling?

I’m sure CNN will be on the olfactory trail of that delicious tidbit and will introduce the aromatic answer in a Breaking News segment tonight.


6 posted on 04/01/2014 6:25:08 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Capt. Tom

<>Sounds like something a tower operator would say to the pilots.<>

Yep — it sure does.

Here is what they said the transcript was 3 weeks ago:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/malaysia/10714907/Revealed-the-final-54-minutes-of-communication-from-MH370.html


7 posted on 04/01/2014 6:27:15 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Capt. Tom
Sounds like something a tower operator would say to the pilots. - Tom

Exactly right. Why would the pilots say goodnight to themselves?

8 posted on 04/01/2014 6:31:10 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: Capt. Tom; battlecry

Actually that’s the proper call you would expect. You could put a comma after Good night. What the flight member is saying is “Good Night” and this is Malaysian three seven zero that is saying “Good night”. Otherwise the controller would have no definitive method in determining who is speaking to him if there were multiple flights on frequency. In Vietnam sometimes I would have upwards of ten or more flights of fighters on frequency and I really needed to be sure who I was speaking with.


9 posted on 04/01/2014 6:32:15 AM PDT by Portcall24 (aer)
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i think the plane was made from GM parts


10 posted on 04/01/2014 6:33:28 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/ http://thepurginglutheran.tumblr.com/)
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To: Capt. Tom
Was there a period in the middle? "Good night Malaysian three seven zero" sounds like something the tower would say. "Good night. Malaysian three seven zero" is the pilot saying good night followed by their ID.

Also, in Malaysian is "Good night" only for the end of conversation or is it like "buenos noches" in Spanish which can be used as a greeting after dark? Although pilots speak English on international flights, their native languages' idiosyncrasies can come out.

11 posted on 04/01/2014 6:33:51 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
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To: Uncle Chip
All right....indicates that the transmission was a response to some kind of conversation.

These folks are lying through their teeth.

Me thinks Malaysia has sent everyone on a wild goose chase.

Pssst....try Pakistan. A million dollars to some controller and poof..."I saw nothing".

12 posted on 04/01/2014 6:35:22 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Portcall24
Actually that’s the proper call you would expect.

And yet his call all throughout on the transcript at Post 7 was consistently "This is MH370" not "Malasian 370".

Why would the sign off differ from earlier communication???

13 posted on 04/01/2014 6:51:21 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Very good point and one I overlooked. Thanks.


14 posted on 04/01/2014 6:52:23 AM PDT by Portcall24 (aer)
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To: Uncle Chip
WOW!
Sounds to me like good radio etiquette. Sounds like the co-pilot is signing off with his identifier.
15 posted on 04/01/2014 6:54:03 AM PDT by Tupelo (I feel more like Philip Nolan every day)
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To: Capt. Tom

True - especially when being handed off to another controller. I heard transmissions from the deck such as “Hello Seattle this is United 3434” ...nothing unusual. I guess time will tell.


16 posted on 04/01/2014 6:58:39 AM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice. And Pay Your Liberty Tax Citizen.)
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To: Uncle Chip
On Monday, Malaysia's Transport Ministry said the final voice transmission from the cockpit of Flight 370 was actually "Good night Malaysian three seven zero."

Give them enough time and they'll report that the real, real final voice transmission from the cockpit of Flight 370 was "Goodnight, Mrs. Calabash, wherever you are."

17 posted on 04/01/2014 7:00:10 AM PDT by varon (Para bellum)
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To: Uncle Chip

The Malaysian government doesn’t seem to be in a rush to find the plane. One would think with the batteries on the black box reaching their 30 day limit the search would be at a more frantic pace but nope. The Malays are hiding something from the world, maybe out of fear of the Chinese government, or possibly the Chinese know something too and are telling them to cool their heels.


18 posted on 04/01/2014 7:00:56 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: Capt. Tom

“Sounds like something a tower operator would say to the pilots. - Tom”

Sounds like Malaysia Air is signing off from Malaysia control while being vectored to new Vietnamese airspace controllers.


19 posted on 04/01/2014 7:01:22 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: Uncle Chip

The Malaysian government is lying over and over again. It is my belief that the pilot held the passengers for ransom to release the political opposition leader imprisoned for “homosexual acts” the day before this event. Captain Shah actually went to the sentencing and wore a shirt that said “Democracy is dead” . In this scenario the Malaysian government refused to comply with the release request and doomed the passengers to death. Thus the cover up.


20 posted on 04/01/2014 7:06:58 AM PDT by SADMILLIE
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To: Portcall24

I reckon they dropped the callsign, is all


21 posted on 04/01/2014 7:09:59 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Sacajaweau

What I’ve been thinking all along. This plane has been repainted and renumbered “magic carpet” in Iran getting ready for the 2nd coming of Allah.

NO DEBRIS??? I guess the next scenario we’ll have promoted is that the plane actually landed like the one on the Hudson and suffered no damage, only sank intact, no debris. Yeah right, in the South Indian Ocean with 30 foot waves routine.

If the damn thing crashed in the ocean there would be SOME floating debris.


22 posted on 04/01/2014 7:20:52 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: Uncle Chip

20 tons of gold


23 posted on 04/01/2014 7:21:52 AM PDT by zzwhale
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To: Uncle Chip

20 tons of gold


24 posted on 04/01/2014 7:29:22 AM PDT by zzwhale
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To: Uncle Chip

So, someone please explain to me (I only have a public education) how anyone with half a brain can get the last words wrong?? And, didn’t they spend a lot of time figuring out who spoke the wrong words???

And, the search was initially north (even though they knew the plane turned south), then west, then south, then not so far south.

The Malaysians are either incompetent, hiding something, or (my preference) both!!!


25 posted on 04/01/2014 7:33:45 AM PDT by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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To: zzwhale

That’s what my hubby thinks. He thinks there may have been valuable cargo aboard that was worth killing the passengers over.


26 posted on 04/01/2014 7:38:24 AM PDT by murrie (Mark Levin: Prosecuting stupidity nightly.)
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To: Portcall24

The other question on that transcript is that it appears that ATC is calling out to MH370 at 01:01:19 and it doesn’t respond for 7 minutes and then when it does it just repeats an earlier transmission.

Then at 01:08:00 ATC calls out to them again and MH370 never responds.

Then 10 minutes go by with no response from MH370.

Then at 01:19:24 ATC tells them “please contact Hu Chi Minh City”.

I suspect that ATC suspected a problem and if they didn’t they should have.

And I also suspect that there was no signoff at 01:19:29 — period. That claim is pure Malaysian fiction to cover their rear ends for not acting on these suspicions sooner.


27 posted on 04/01/2014 7:43:13 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: All

This story is almost done - and it’s turning into a “DB Cooper” story now, with all the crazy speculation.

And in a few days this list will be done. I don’t think we’ll hear much more since the Chinese have come out so strongly that they’re all dead! This will join DB Cooper in the mystery hall of fame.

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28 posted on 04/01/2014 7:50:23 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Uncle Chip
Uncle Chip wrote:
The problem here is that international law puts the Malaysians in control of the investigation but until the Malaysians sign over the investigation to someone else, this investigation is going nowhere and nothing of any significance will be pulled out of the ocean. And unfortunately that appears to be what the Malaysians intend.

Then witness response from the Maly-Gainsay-Olympics. . .


29 posted on 04/01/2014 7:53:58 AM PDT by wtd
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To: dowcaet

Plane was highjacked and shot down by the Malay government . . imho


30 posted on 04/01/2014 7:56:45 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd
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To: wtd; Uncle Chip
Malay chutzpah . . .
31 posted on 04/01/2014 7:57:45 AM PDT by wtd
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To: battlecry
Me too. It sounds like something the tower would say to a plane leaving its airspace. I wouldn't be surprised if the Malaysian government got this wrong.
32 posted on 04/01/2014 7:58:18 AM PDT by peeps36 (I'm Not A Racist, I Hate Douchebags of All Colors)
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To: Uncle Chip

You are correct. That exchange would never pass muster as a radar handoff. Normally ATC would ask the aircrew to “squawk flash” prior to a handoff.

As I thought about this, I’m surprised to see just “MH” being transmitted. Keep in mind I’ve been away from controlling for a few decades but I would expect to hear “Mike Hotel 370” or “Malaysian Heavy 370”. I’ve lost a great deal of my hearing because we had the radios turned so loud to try to understand what was said, so probably the radios are much clearer now and there’s no need to use phonic call signs.


33 posted on 04/01/2014 7:59:03 AM PDT by Portcall24 (aer)
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To: ├čudda├čudd
How does your opinion square with this:

Flight 370 Passenger Philip Wood Allegedly Sends Message from U.S. Military Base in Indian Ocean
34 posted on 04/01/2014 8:03:01 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Uncle Chip

Next on CNN: Which crew members had chicken for dinner, and which crew membes had the fish?


35 posted on 04/01/2014 8:03:40 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: ├čudda├čudd
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Phillip Wood

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36 posted on 04/01/2014 8:08:36 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: wtd

Note to Mr Hishammuddin:

Boeing 777s are flown by nearly every nation in Asia and they don’t just fall out of the sky.

Why is it that it only happens to yours???


37 posted on 04/01/2014 8:09:34 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Star Traveler

See post 34
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38 posted on 04/01/2014 8:10:13 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Uncle Chip

>> “Boeing 777s are flown by nearly every nation in Asia and they don’t just fall out of the sky.

Why is it that it only happens to yours???” <<

.
His didn’t either.

See post 34 for the crack in somebody’s armor.
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39 posted on 04/01/2014 8:13:17 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Uncle Chip

This is news?

These people are dead.

I agree we should continue to search. But they are dead. This is not news. They are scraping at the bottom of the barrel. Time to move on to important items.


40 posted on 04/01/2014 8:14:02 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: Vermont Lt

At least one of them lived long enough to snap a picture with his Iphone 5 from Diego Garcia.


41 posted on 04/01/2014 8:16:36 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

You know ... I’m typing this on an iPad, which has the same operating system as the iPhone. One of the nice things about this iPad, is that I can take pictures and know where they’ve been taken. It also shows the direction I was shooting, along with all the other information.

Now, sometimes, the EXIF information is wrong in regards to the coordinates (slightly off) and I don’t know why it does that, but a few show up that way. So I went looming for something to change the information so I could put it back in the correct location. Anyway, the point is - I can change that information and show a different location than was originally recorded. This can be done. I’ve actually done it on mine.


42 posted on 04/01/2014 8:27:17 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: editor-surveyor

I dont have an answer . .


43 posted on 04/01/2014 8:28:36 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd
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To: editor-surveyor

I read that, and I don’t know what to make of it. If they are on DG, it would only have been a matter of time for the US to point out where the debris is, because that’s where they put it.

There is no other “military” on DG except us marines and navy seals.


44 posted on 04/01/2014 8:33:15 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: editor-surveyor

And, if we are holding them for three weeks like that, they are dead.

Plus...if WE are holding them like that, it puts the whole 9/11 truther/Zionist conspiracy back in play.

I love a good conspiracy, but I simply cannot get my head around that.


45 posted on 04/01/2014 8:35:35 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: Star Traveler

On an iPhone the GPS is not GPS. It’s triangulation between cell towers or wifi.

So, if you don’t have access to more than one source, it will approximate.

It’s not accurate at all, relatively speaking.


46 posted on 04/01/2014 8:37:36 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: Star Traveler

I can fill you in on why the coordinates are off slightly.

My small hand held GPS locator is always a few hundred yards off from the data on my high precision surveying receivers, even before processing the data. It takes a long time for the hand held units to achieve an accurate position.
.


47 posted on 04/01/2014 8:40:50 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Vermont Lt

>> “On an iPhone the GPS is not GPS. It’s triangulation between cell towers or wifi” <<

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Its both. The GPS tracking can be turned off, but the system tracking can’t.


48 posted on 04/01/2014 8:42:29 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Star Traveler

You can add to the exif data, but you cannot actually change it. You can also delete it completely.


49 posted on 04/01/2014 8:44:52 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Uncle Chip
Coincidence?


50 posted on 04/01/2014 8:46:00 AM PDT by wtd
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