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Brand new set of baseball bleachers torn down after ruling…girls softball team’s seats must be equal
My Fox Detroit ^ | Mar 31, 2014 12:14 PM EDT

Posted on 04/01/2014 6:32:35 AM PDT by Olog-hai

A new set of seating is being torn down outside the Plymouth Wildcats varsity boys’ baseball field, not long before the season begins, because the fields for boys’ and girls’ athletics must be equal. […]

(A)fter a complaint, the U.S Education Department’s Office for Civil Rights investigated the new addition and says it must be torn down. It says the facility was no longer equal to the girls’ softball field next door, which has old bleachers and an old scoreboard. …

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This after parents raised money to build new seating themselves. And of course there was no ADA access.
1 posted on 04/01/2014 6:32:35 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Feed from the federal trough, obey federal rules.


2 posted on 04/01/2014 6:33:50 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Olog-hai

Thank Nixon for this.


3 posted on 04/01/2014 6:34:07 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Olog-hai

Yep, tear DOWN the seating in the boys’ field...

Don’t THINK of BUILDING the same type of seating in the girls’ instead...

That’s equality for ya. -Lowest common denominator equality.


4 posted on 04/01/2014 6:36:49 AM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: dfwgator

50 monkeys on keyboards could write better legislation than this.


5 posted on 04/01/2014 6:41:02 AM PDT by tractorman (I never miss a chance to tweak a liberal.)
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To: joethedrummer

This is just a mirror of the Obama World. Equality means taking from someone and giving to another so we are all equal. The problem is that,in this case, someone lost and nobody improved. Great job Feds.


6 posted on 04/01/2014 6:41:04 AM PDT by mortal19440
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To: Olog-hai

Once again, the libtard version of “equality”... equally miserable.


7 posted on 04/01/2014 6:41:30 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: Olog-hai

Parts of this country are just stark raving mad.


8 posted on 04/01/2014 6:42:21 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Olog-hai

What I don’t get about this whole girls sports thing is...

I thought the Supreme Court ruled separate but equal was not constitutional?

So, applying that to sports, women shouldn’t have separate sports teams.


9 posted on 04/01/2014 6:43:19 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Olog-hai

This is the continuing problem with federalism.


10 posted on 04/01/2014 6:43:48 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

This isn’t federalism, though. This is centralism.


11 posted on 04/01/2014 6:44:56 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: mortal19440

People who achieve personal success and professional excellence through hard work might not be inclined to vote Democrat. Just saying.


12 posted on 04/01/2014 6:45:10 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Olog-hai

This isn’t federalism, though.

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You’re right. It is Fedzilla.


13 posted on 04/01/2014 6:45:49 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: TexasFreeper2009

When my granddaughter was 10, she played with the boys...and then they got big and strong...and she knew they weren’t equal.


14 posted on 04/01/2014 6:45:49 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Olog-hai

Sounds like this could be one of those “teaching moments” liberals are always blathering on about.


15 posted on 04/01/2014 6:46:42 AM PDT by chrisser (Senseless legislation does nothing to solve senseless violence.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Like everything of the left,

it’s not about bringing up those seen as having less,
it’s about knocking down those that are seen as having more.


16 posted on 04/01/2014 6:47:57 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Sacajaweau

When my granddaughter was 10, she played with the boys...and then they got big and strong...and she knew they weren’t equal.

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But she will no doubt be better and more talented than the boys in other endeavors. Life does not intend for us all to be equal in everything.


17 posted on 04/01/2014 6:48:22 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: joethedrummer

Why didn’t someone chain themselves to the bleachers in protest?


18 posted on 04/01/2014 6:48:28 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Olog-hai

It didn’t say much about the complainant;just curious about that.


19 posted on 04/01/2014 6:51:07 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: Olog-hai
This reminds me of the incident back in the early 90s (I think) when a female student at ST Mary's College sued to be allowed to play in mens intramural sports. After she won that lawsuit, she decided to play flag football and when someone knocked her on her ass she sued for being roughed up or physically touched, or something.

When the school and court couldn't figure out how to let her play foot ball but not be blocked or touched they ended up killing the sports program altogether.

20 posted on 04/01/2014 6:51:13 AM PDT by Baynative (Got bulbs? Check my profile page.)
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To: Olog-hai

Well, now they can tear down the girls’ bleachers because the boys have NONE. It has to be equal, right?


21 posted on 04/01/2014 6:51:13 AM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (You think you know me. You don't.)
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To: MrB

it’s about knocking down those that are seen as having more.

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I’ve worked around tons of lefties in my life and, based on my personal interactions with them, can say that for the most part, they are very jealous of those who have more than they do. Lefties have a superior and self-righteous view of themselves and believe that other “lesser beings” do not deserve to have more than they do. Distorted view, yes, but quite prevalent in their world.


22 posted on 04/01/2014 6:52:27 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Olog-hai

So the girls softball team didn’t raise money to upgrade their seats so nobody can?


23 posted on 04/01/2014 6:52:40 AM PDT by AU72
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To: Olog-hai

Torn down, I would have burned them down...


24 posted on 04/01/2014 6:55:39 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: dfwgator

I have a hazy memory of a proposed sports facility from a few years ago where a group of women claimed the bathrooms were sexist. The reason is that women take longer...and thus there should be more choices for them than men. It was a very important moment in US history. (the last line is sarcasm).


25 posted on 04/01/2014 6:55:39 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement ("World Peace 1.20.09.")
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To: ConservativeStatement

Nixon’s Title IX started all this nonsense. WIth Republicans like that, who needs Democrats?


26 posted on 04/01/2014 6:56:48 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Olog-hai
Why isn't our pay and benefits equal to those of feral government employees?

Sounds like a crime is occurring. Time to give us the same compensation as employees of the feral government, or give them the same compensation as us.

27 posted on 04/01/2014 6:58:05 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it.")
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To: Olog-hai

The compliant citizens and taxpayers will still vote Democrat in the next election so it doesn’t really matter.


28 posted on 04/01/2014 7:01:04 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: Russ

Are there enough conservatives in the GOP there for voting the other way to matter?


29 posted on 04/01/2014 7:03:53 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Starboard
The left seems to center its existence around their holy commandment “Thou shalt covet” (so much so that “Do what thou wilt” is not the whole of their law).
30 posted on 04/01/2014 7:06:28 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: joethedrummer
Who was it that said "Socialism is all about dragging everybody down to the lowest common denominator?"
31 posted on 04/01/2014 7:10:34 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Starboard

She’ll be better than the boys?? What a ridiculous statement.


32 posted on 04/01/2014 7:14:17 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Olog-hai

I need to call the wife and tell her what I want for supper.


33 posted on 04/01/2014 7:25:50 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Sacajaweau

Not necessarily in physical strength but certainly she may be better with respect to certain other talents, skills and abilities.


34 posted on 04/01/2014 7:30:54 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Vigilanteman

Rush Limbaugh


35 posted on 04/01/2014 7:31:52 AM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Olog-hai

Remember, when liberals talk about equality, they are not talking about taking people from the bottom and raising them up. They are talking about taking people from the top down to the level of those at the bottom.


36 posted on 04/01/2014 7:34:47 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
Churchill certainly didn’t utter these words in vain.
37 posted on 04/01/2014 7:37:51 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: joethedrummer

Or just trade girls’ and boys’ facilities. Easy-peasy. Nobody would be able to go to court and get a successful judgment against girls having better.


38 posted on 04/01/2014 7:38:11 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Right is right even if nobody does it. Wrong is wrong even if everybody's doing it.- G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Not possible as to baseball/softball fields. The dimensions are completely different.


39 posted on 04/01/2014 7:57:02 AM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: reagandemocrat

My solution:

Just have one team for each sport. No boys teams, no girls team. One basketball team, one football team, one swimming team, one softball team, baseball team, soccer team etc. Everyone is eligible regardless of gender, race or religion and may the best player get the position.

No Title IX problems. No discrimination problems. No whining. No lawsuits.


40 posted on 04/01/2014 8:07:19 AM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: reagandemocrat
Oh. Well, if that's the case, I guess you could tear down the girls' (older) facility, and make boys' baseball coed. Except that would distress the li'l gals even worse.

Best all-around, I guess, is to ban sports.

Equali-Polizei Triumphs Again!

41 posted on 04/01/2014 8:07:35 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Right is right even if nobody does it. Wrong is wrong even if everybody's doing it.- G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Olog-hai

I find it difficult to believe not one person suggested, “Hey, why don’t we pass the hat again and build bleachers for the Softball diamond!”


42 posted on 04/01/2014 8:15:14 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Baynative

Watch closely the coming events surrounding the demand that the Northwestern football team be allowed to UNIONIZE.

I predict a future collapse of all sports-—period.

There will be NO MORE athletic scholarships. There will be no more booster clubs. No more business for those who make t-shirts-—hats—helmets—uniforms— bleachers-food-souvenirs, etc.

No more construction of stadiums or tennis courts or basketball facilities. NO more black kids getting tutors & getting molly-coddled thru high school & college so they can hold a scholarship & then get big bucks in the NFL.

The destruction of American iconic activities will be very damaging. The peripheral losses will impact the economy even further.


43 posted on 04/01/2014 8:31:05 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Mrs. Don-o

A couple of similar issues cropped here in my neck of the woods the last couple of years. First was at a middle school, which didn’t have fields for baseball or softball. They were bussed to a city facility for their home games as has been done for many years now. Well, one season the AD told the girls to drive to the field, which is about a mile from the school, because they didn’t have funding for buses because of some snafu or snow days or something like that. Since the budget had not been set for the next year, this didn’t affect the boys, whose budget was adjusted once they saw what happened with the girl’s team. Well, ONE PARENT complained and didn’t get the answer she wanted. So, she called the school board and said “Title IX” and then all hell broke loose. The district started looking at things and realized that a lot of girls’ programs were not funded equally to the boys, so they had a potential mess on their hands. To “fix” the problem they first built a brand new softball field at the middle school, complete with lights. Problem is the games start at 4:00, so they are done before the sun goes down. So the lights are NEVER turned on. Now, the boys still have to play at the city park, but the girls, who were barely able to field a team this year, have a brand new field with nice bleachers, lights, concession booth, ticket booth (for the dozens of mostly parents who bother to show up) and all the amenities you could imagine.

Now, at my son’s HS they had a similar issue. The girl’s field, which the softball boosters had just raised money to put lights on, was deemed “inadequate”. So, AGAINST the wishes of the softball parents, they tore the field up, threw away the brand new lights and made a field in a completely different area of the property, complete with all the same amenities the middle school field had, including a really nice scoreboard and state of the art lighting. Meanwhile the baseball boosters raised money for new WOODEN LIGHT POLES to replace the 20+ year old existing ones. They also wanted to build a brick backstop to make the field look more like others in the conference. They were told they couldn’t and so the poles sit piled up at the edge of the middle school baseball parking lot rotting away. Lighting at the old field is ancient and costs almost as much per game as the softball lights do per season, but they can’t be replaced, nor can the POLES they sit on be replaced because then they would have to spend the same amount on the girls even though they just spent thousands of dollars building a field no one wanted in the first place.

My favorite thus far (and something I am sure will come back to bite them) was the cheerleaders for the football team. Football boosters raise a ton of money each year, but have to in order to maintain adequate, well, everything. One part of that was feeding the team on away games at restaurants. Well, they traveled to a school a good distance away for playoffs two years ago and the plan was to stop and have a team meal on the way. Fine and dandy except that the cheerleaders rode the buses with the coaches and team. Now, the cheerleader PARENTS wanted the football boosters to pay for the cheerleaders’ meals as well. Football boosters told them they could pay for their meals on their own if they wanted to, but the football boosters paid for the team and coaches only. It was suggested that the cheerleaders forms their own booster organization to raise money for the future. Well, you would have thought they had suggested the girls start stripping for meals! They were outraged that someone dare suggest parents pay for their darling little Snowflake’s meals!

So, last season when the team traveled and had to eat at a restaurant the boosters again paid for the team and coaches. The cheerleaders packed bag meals and ate on the bus. Needless to say this has not sat well with the cheerleader parents. To their credit, the football boosters decided that since all but 2 away games were close enough to eat locally, they had my church open it’s doors to the team to have a catered meal before the games. Cheerleader parents could feed now feed their precious little Snowflakes at home or take them out before boarding the bus to leave.

It is really getting ridiculous with the whole “equal” crap. If they want to be “fair”, have each sport raise their own money from ticket sales, etc. and pay for their stuff that way. But, that wouldn’t be “fair” because no one comes to watch girl’s sports, so they are at a “disadvantage” and thus must be subsidized in order to survive.

Isn’t this a GREAT system?


44 posted on 04/01/2014 8:32:35 AM PDT by Littlejon
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To: Starboard
Parts of this country are just stark raving mad.

The great thinkers on Liberty would not be surprised at this at all. Our Founders knew the type of people attracted to government -- mostly vile. That's why they spent much thought on designing a system of checks and balances and making the Federal government as weak as possible.

You are correct, stark raving mad, but I would add evil. At the local, state, and Federal level, there are a good many workers who wake up each day and relish making the taxpayer's lives miserable.

At their core, they are very sadistic, evil human beings -- I would suggest no less evil than the NAZI guard camp workers.

Given enough power, vast numbers of government workers would not hesitate to utterly destroy the lives of fellow citizens.

To Liberty loving, Constitutional loving Americans they are indeed just stark raving mad.

45 posted on 04/01/2014 10:03:59 AM PDT by sand88 (We can never legislate our way back to Liberty)
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To: Olog-hai

Yet another ignorant ruling from our court system.


46 posted on 04/01/2014 10:32:18 AM PDT by ataDude (Its like 1933, mixed with the Carter 70s, plus the books 1984 and Animal Farm, all at the same time.)
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To: Olog-hai

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Bergeron


47 posted on 04/01/2014 10:59:50 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: tractorman
50 monkeys on keyboards could write better legislation than this.
Isn't that how we got Obamacare?
48 posted on 04/01/2014 11:06:30 AM PDT by jimmango
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To: ridesthemiles

I shared many of your thoughts when I first heard this story. I expect it will be a windfall for lawyers everywhere.


49 posted on 04/01/2014 11:08:11 AM PDT by Baynative (Got bulbs? Check my profile page.)
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To: dfwgator
Thank Nixon for this.

Yep. I think states have an option to not take back the money that was stolen from them by disavowing the Dept of Ed. What state would ever do that? Democrats would own them. It would be a PR nightmare. Thanks, government schools!
50 posted on 04/01/2014 12:34:12 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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