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Shirley student, Kwasi Enin, accepted at all 8 Ivy League schools
Newsday (NY) ^ | March 31, 2014 | ZACHARY R. DOWDY

Posted on 04/01/2014 6:43:57 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement

Seventeen-year-old Kwasi Enin of Shirley took a shot at -- and won -- what amounts to an academic royal flush: He applied to and was accepted at all eight Ivy League schools.

But the William Floyd High School senior said he never thought he'd land slots in the class of 2018 at Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Princeton, the University of Pennsylvania and Yale. He hasn't decided where he'll attend, but would cross Long Island Sound to attend Yale in New Haven, Conn., depending on the financial aid package offered.

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1 posted on 04/01/2014 6:43:57 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement
Every Ivy League school is dying to get minority students, but the sad thing is that they often fail -- because they are competing with the best white and asian students, who are smarter because they don't get minority treatment. Most of these minority students would be much better off if they went to lesser schools where the whites and asians are at the same level as they are.
2 posted on 04/01/2014 6:53:00 AM PDT by expat2
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To: expat2

Maybe I’ll change my kids names to things like Kwasi, or Kmbo so they can have a shot at an ivy league school.

:roll eyes:


3 posted on 04/01/2014 6:55:06 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

“He has an SAT score of 2,250 out of 2,400, which places him in the 99th percentile for all students taking the exam.”

He is a black guy who tests in the 99th percentile. I’m surprised the president of Harvard didn’t send his private jet to pick him up!


4 posted on 04/01/2014 6:55:23 AM PDT by proxy_user
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To: ConservativeStatement

No an Ivy school but I would have tried for admission to MIT. Not for everyone, I guess.


5 posted on 04/01/2014 6:56:50 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: proxy_user

He would be better off going to Grove City College. He would certainly learn more...


6 posted on 04/01/2014 6:57:38 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Sigh. And if his name was Casey Ellis?

The young man is an impressive student - very good SATs, although not fantastic, a musician, an athlete...

There are students in my children’s high school who would seem on paper to equal or top his accomplishments, and they are not being accepted to every Ivy League school.


7 posted on 04/01/2014 6:58:17 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: ConservativeStatement

sounds like he’s first-generation American from Ghana.

I’m sure there was some racist bias in accepting him, but I’m still very happy for and that he can show the racists of low expectations that a black kid can get an SAT score of 2,250 our of 2500 if he is not raised from a culture of total depravity.


8 posted on 04/01/2014 6:58:17 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: ConservativeStatement
Ain't affirmative action grand?
9 posted on 04/01/2014 7:00:27 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it.")
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To: proxy_user

2250 is a pretty good SAT score, but in fact, it is just about at the median for most Ivy’s, and even below for hyper competitive schools like Stanford, Harvard, MIT.

The kid is clearly smart, but higher educations’ racist fever and its grail-like quest for “diversity” means that a “Kwasi Enin” is going to hit the racial jackpot in higher education.


10 posted on 04/01/2014 7:02:28 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Westbrook
The US Supreme Court has decided that you are any gender or race that you decide you are.

Have your kids define themselves as transsexual female African-American on their applications and they can go anywhere they want.

11 posted on 04/01/2014 7:03:05 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it.")
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To: ConservativeStatement

Malcolm Gladwell’s new book “David and Goliath” takes affirmative action to task in a brilliant manner. Is the practice useful? In some cases, yes. Is it instituted wisely? Not even close.


12 posted on 04/01/2014 7:03:26 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: ConservativeStatement

He sounds like a great kid raised in a wonderful family. He has uncles and cousins who have gone to Ivies, so intelligence clearly runs in the family.

What is totally remarkable is the lack of mention of “black” or ANY hint of grievance mongering in this fine article. Jesse and Al will have to fix that ASAP.


13 posted on 04/01/2014 7:04:45 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: expat2
Every Ivy League school is dying to get minority students, but the sad thing is that they often fail -- because they are competing with the best white and asian students, who are smarter because they don't get minority treatment. Most of these minority students would be much better off if they went to lesser schools where the whites and asians are at the same level as they are.

but this particular student does not seem like most minority students... in fact, he does not seem like most white students... he could fare well... he is a triple threat... he has academics, athletics and the performing arts going for him... good on him :)

14 posted on 04/01/2014 7:05:55 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Heh.

You’re right.

But names like Kmumbo, and Mbwasi can help.
:)


15 posted on 04/01/2014 7:07:06 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Poor kid.


16 posted on 04/01/2014 7:08:02 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: Russ
He would be better off going to Grove City College. He would certainly learn more...

i would love for my sons to go to Grove City College... to me, Grove City College, Hillsdale and the Torrey Honors Institute at Biola are the Ivy League...

17 posted on 04/01/2014 7:08:30 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Is your screen name M*A*S*H related?


18 posted on 04/01/2014 7:09:54 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement ("World Peace 1.20.09.")
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To: ConservativeStatement

I am sure his race had something to do with it. But...this kid is impressive. I love seeing first generation anyone getting that far ahead.

While the schools fill racial quotas, there are also regional quotas. I live in a very competitive school district where high achievers are often wait listed, where if they came from the next town over they would be accepted.

If this kids was in an under performing district, plus he fill a racial diversity slot— that would all be in his favor.

That said, this kid is impressive and we should all applaud his hard work and determination. This is what America is all about.


19 posted on 04/01/2014 7:12:33 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

8 schools?

Harvard, for instance, charges $75 for an application fee. The others are comparable. Must have gotten waivers and suchlike. Whatever else, it shows that he’s good at doing the bureaucracy dance.


20 posted on 04/01/2014 7:14:28 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: PGR88

Ernie: Charles, is it hard to get into Auburn?
Barkely: Not if you score 20 points and pull down 10 rebounds.


21 posted on 04/01/2014 7:20:31 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: ConservativeStatement

It is.

“Nobody leaves till I do ... and I never do.”

:)


22 posted on 04/01/2014 7:21:44 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Actually race does. There are a total of 3 black kids in my son’s school (several dozed mixed race kids). One of the black kids has these types of numbers. He is from France.
Schools don’t believe he is really black because he is, well, from France.
If you think Asian’s are hard on their kids about school, try black college professors.


23 posted on 04/01/2014 7:23:32 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Colonel_Flagg
I can't recall the exact sequence with Radar but the Colonel asked him if had ever heard of a certain form of torture and then followed it with “Good, cuz there's no such thing (or something similar).”
24 posted on 04/01/2014 7:24:27 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement ("World Peace 1.20.09.")
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To: ConservativeStatement

Oh come on! Does anyone really think that a white kid with identical qualifications would have been accepted in ALL the Ivy league schools?


25 posted on 04/01/2014 7:26:09 AM PDT by kenmcg
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To: AppyPappy
This particular black is an example of "The Bell Curve" in operation. He is in the right outlier.
26 posted on 04/01/2014 7:26:41 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Flagg: “Have you ever heard of the Malaysian Chest Implosion Torture?”

Radar: “No.”

Flagg: “That’s because there’s no such thing ... yet.”


27 posted on 04/01/2014 7:29:29 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg; All
Unintended consequences dept:

The guidance counselors at his HS should be shot. No way he should have been allowed to apply to all 8 Ivies.. 2-3 at he most. He should have some idea. The admissions dept at the 7 schools he won't choose will next year take it out on applicants from his high school.

28 posted on 04/01/2014 7:41:00 AM PDT by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Good for him - his accomplishments should be advertised as an example to all students. But, don’t tell any of the poverty pimps - they will insist he live in the ghetto to prove that whitey is holding him down. They can’t stand it when a minority works hard and succeeds without their help (come to think of it, have they ever helped anyone succeed???).


29 posted on 04/01/2014 7:51:44 AM PDT by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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To: heartwood

My daughter graduated 2nd in a very competative White/Asian high school in California (two valedictorians were both white, BTW). She had SAT and ACT scores in the 95+ percentile, 5’s on her APs including in Calculus I and II.

She had her heart set on attending an Ivy but was rejected by each of the ones she applied to, ditto for the class valedictorian who had PERFECT SAT scores, started a program for swimming for blind children at the local pool, 5s on APs, etc. He was rejected by ALL of the Ivies and Stanford. He asked what is it he didn’t do to get accepted? (my daughter too). Other valedictorian ended up at Stanford. Several non-whites below them in class ranking and SAT scores WERE accepted by Stanford and the Ivies.

You can’t imagine how crushing this is for these students.

Both went to Berkeley, and if it weren’t for Prop 209, I wonder if they would have been accpted there.


30 posted on 04/01/2014 7:59:55 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (The dogs bark; the caravan moves on!)
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To: ConservativeStatement

•Kwasi Enin, 17, is the son of immigrant nurses from Ghana

•He was a senior at William Floyd High School in Mastic, N.Y, with an SAT score of 2,250 out of 2,400

31 posted on 04/01/2014 8:03:21 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Bon of Babble
This nonsense will continue unless we fight. Surely by now even a dumb head realizes the true meaning of "Equal Opportunity."
32 posted on 04/01/2014 8:03:57 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: jda
re: Good for him - his accomplishments should be advertised as an example to all students. But, don’t tell any of the poverty pimps - they will insist he live in the ghetto to prove that whitey is holding him down. They can’t stand it when a minority works hard and succeeds without their help

I agree. Upon reading the title I assumed he was simply another affirmative action winner. But congratulations are in order for Kwasi Enin. He does sound like a great student who has great parents who have encouraged success and a humble attitude. But he and his parents will not get the credit. The poverty pimps will see to that.

33 posted on 04/01/2014 8:14:18 AM PDT by Nevadan
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To: Nevadan
I agree. Upon reading the title I assumed he was simply another affirmative action winner.

He was, in a way. He is no doubt smart and an excellent student. But the Ivy's students are all smart, and his SAT's were median for Ivy League schools. 8 Ivy's all accepting him? His name and skin color clearly gave him that extra push over the top. Don't blame him though, he will succeed wherever he goes - rather, its just another example of the diversity zealotry within Academia (and Ivy's in particular) showing itself.

34 posted on 04/01/2014 8:26:02 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: kcvl

He lives in a decent part of Long Island and his father emphasizes education.


35 posted on 04/01/2014 8:26:05 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: ConservativeStatement
THE STORY BEHIND THE STORY!!!
Enin is a first generation American from Ghana. His parents, both nurses, moved to New York in the 1980s.

Meaning he has zero slave blood, That his family has never suffered from slavery and racism. In fact they immigrated to this horrible racist country. It is outrageous that immigrants and their progeny get affirmative action preferences. AA is supposed to redress past racism...and this family does not have one in America

But Harvard etc could care less just so long as they get some black faces

36 posted on 04/01/2014 8:37:05 AM PDT by dennisw (Lenovo)
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“He has an SAT score of 2,250 out of 2,400, which places him in the 99th percentile for all students taking the exam.”

He is a black guy who tests in the 99th percentile. I’m surprised the president of Harvard didn’t send his private jet to pick him up!


I'm a white guy who scored a 2250, and I didn't even bother applying to any ivy league schools.
37 posted on 04/01/2014 9:05:06 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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re: His name and skin color clearly gave him that extra push over the top.

No doubt about that. When our children were in high school they were all given two inch thick booklets of scholarship listings being offered at that time. Due to the fact that the majority of the scholarships offered were designated for minority students, those from low income families, those with a sob story to tell, or for students whose parents worked in a certain field, our children didn’t even qualify to apply for over 98% of the scholarships. To be factual, some of the scholarships didn’t limit in their wording to “minority only”, but if they stated that a preference was given to minority students, we knew that the application process and the required essays and hoops to jump through would amount to a huge waste of time.


38 posted on 04/01/2014 9:09:55 AM PDT by Nevadan
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To: kcvl

Good for him!!! I hope he does well.


39 posted on 04/01/2014 9:21:11 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: PGR88

My daughter with an SAT of 2270 wanted to attend an ivy so applied to six of them and was rejected at all six on black Thursday last week but got into Tufts which we are all thrilled about.

I did a little Post Mortum analysis with some broad assumptions so give or take on the numbers it I think outlines the difficulty for the white academically gifted to get in to one of these schools.

Harvard -2023 applicants in 2018

A recruited Ivy League athlete must have the academic credentials to survive the stringent and highly selective admissions process at each institution. Coaches have little sway in the admissions process, although they do provide a list of potential athletes to admissions officials. Across the league, about 13 percent of each university’s incoming class is composed of athletes chosen from coaches’ lists.

13 percent =262

Highlights of Harvard’s Class of 2017

The admitted students of the Class of 2017 were ethnically diverse – 19.9% Asian-American, 11.5% African-American, 11.5% Hispanic, 2.2% Native American and 0.5% Native Hawaiian.

20% of the admitted students represented 81 different countries and are considered international students, U.S. dual citizens, or U.S. permanent residents.

Harvard’s legacy admissions rate hovers around 30%. Its overall rate was 5.8% this year.

athletic=13 percent =262
19.9% Asian-American=402.57
11.5% African-American=232
11.5% Hispanic=232
2.2% Native American= 44.5
20% International=404.6
legacy 5.8 =117.33

Total = 1695.004

2023-1695= 328 slots available for white non athletes

Male50%/Female50% split = 164 at Harvard with similar ratios at other schools

MY white-bread non athletic daughter was competing for 164 openings

Asians are over represented -

White population in the US is about 72% according to wikipedia so minorities are over represented by 16% vs the USA white population & although not counted there would be some number from the 81 Countries international enrolment.

probably some overlap on the athletics/ racial numbers this is just a ball park.

Assume in this ball park that 72% of the applications were from USA whites or 26,000 with half being female that would make 13,000 white women vying for just 164 openings.

In a population of 13,000 you will have a number compelling stories - Family wiped out in a car accident, homeless, cured cancer etc.

an off the cuff guess at may daughters ivy chances were a fraction of a %

I am thrilled with Tufts but after looking at the numbers applying to the Ivies was was not worth the time and effort no matter what the qualification.

I would like to note at the top tier of her school there were scores of 2350, 2280, 2270, 2220, 2180, 2150 - none got into an ivy.

The two that did from her school were less academically able, one with a SAT in the 1900 range and the other in the 2000 range. one was of Asian/Indian descent the other Mexican. both got into one ivy each and wait-listed at another. The kicker here is that they both live in million dollar houses and culturally I would they say that they are as white as my daughter.

I think this is a good thing I have never been big on the ivies and this dilutes their pool taking some of the luster off their reputations and forcing the high achievers down market. Which will just enrich other schools.

From my own perspective I do not have a problem if a black came out a hellhole inner city school with an SAT score of 1900 they deserve the opportunity and I would be happy to have my daughter step aside, there are plenty of great schools out there.

I do think they are a little overdone on this diversity thing and wish I had done this research beforehand and saved the application fees.


40 posted on 04/01/2014 9:25:43 AM PDT by underbyte (TEOTEWAWKI)
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To: SgtHooper

Imagine this...his PARENTS emphasized education.


41 posted on 04/01/2014 9:28:27 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: underbyte

re: I do think they are a little overdone on this diversity thing and wish I had done this research beforehand and saved the application fees.

I was think about that as I was reading your post. If you don’t mind saying, how much did you have to spend applying to the 6 ivy league schools?


42 posted on 04/01/2014 9:32:06 AM PDT by Nevadan
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To: MNDude

Generally, blacks who come to this country from Africa, do not care for American blacks, and do not subscribe to their culture.


43 posted on 04/01/2014 9:35:29 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dennisw
Affirmative action is political payout, nothing more, nothing less. Its the modern version of big city machine politics's “jobs for the boys”. Vote Democrats, get tangible benefits. For non-Asian minorities, this means preference in admissions and hiring. For white self-hating liberals, it means they get to relieve their psychic pain through self-harm, a sort of grown-up version of the “cutting” they did as adolescents.
44 posted on 04/01/2014 9:39:27 AM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: Nevadan

@@@@@@@@@I was think about that as I was reading your post. If you don’t mind saying, how much did you have to spend applying to the 6 ivy league schools?@@@@@@@@@@@

It was through the Common application process and my wife made the payment so I am a little vague on it but I believe about $70 each


45 posted on 04/01/2014 9:42:30 AM PDT by underbyte (TEOTEWAWKI)
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To: underbyte

Yours is an excellent analysis. My only comment would be that applicants to Harvard probably also skew relatively heavily towards Asian, compared to a percentage of the US population.

But your point still holds - your (and my) daughter are still competing for 164 spots from perhaps 10-13,000 white/female/non-athlete applicants.

Very tough odds.


46 posted on 04/01/2014 9:53:52 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88
Reagan, while government of California, was told that unless he changed Cal-Berkeley's performance-based admittance standards, that all of their students would be Asian.

His response, "So What?"

47 posted on 04/01/2014 9:58:03 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: ConservativeStatement
Good for this kid! I saw him interviewed on TV this morning and he is definitely exceptional. While the article says his father is a nurse, both of his parents are healthcare professionals........

As far as financial aid, it's quite possible that the combined incomes of his parents may drastically limit what he could be eligible for.......

48 posted on 04/01/2014 10:06:19 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Under Reagan spring always arrived on time.....)
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To: PGR88

I was pushing for MIT but she visited the campus and thought that they looked like overly stressed Nerd’s - we are very happy with Tufts

You look at some of the student reviews on different colleges

http://www.studentsreview.com/

My 2 nephews went to both Harvard and Yale and a third to Amherst, the diversity thing dominates the atmosphere where all break off into racial/culture clicks topped off with some snobbery. Makes for an unfriendly experience and I do not think my daughter would have been happy at any of them.

Harvard seems the worst, Yale not as bad as the rest but i would take a hard look at where she applies.


49 posted on 04/01/2014 10:18:51 AM PDT by underbyte (TEOTEWAWKI)
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To: Dagnabitt

Both your points valid and original...at least I haven’t heard them


50 posted on 04/01/2014 12:24:46 PM PDT by dennisw (Lenovo)
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