Skip to comments.Shirley student, Kwasi Enin, accepted at all 8 Ivy League schools
Posted on 04/01/2014 6:43:57 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
Seventeen-year-old Kwasi Enin of Shirley took a shot at -- and won -- what amounts to an academic royal flush: He applied to and was accepted at all eight Ivy League schools.
But the William Floyd High School senior said he never thought he'd land slots in the class of 2018 at Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Princeton, the University of Pennsylvania and Yale. He hasn't decided where he'll attend, but would cross Long Island Sound to attend Yale in New Haven, Conn., depending on the financial aid package offered.
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Maybe I’ll change my kids names to things like Kwasi, or Kmbo so they can have a shot at an ivy league school.
“He has an SAT score of 2,250 out of 2,400, which places him in the 99th percentile for all students taking the exam.”
He is a black guy who tests in the 99th percentile. I’m surprised the president of Harvard didn’t send his private jet to pick him up!
No an Ivy school but I would have tried for admission to MIT. Not for everyone, I guess.
He would be better off going to Grove City College. He would certainly learn more...
Sigh. And if his name was Casey Ellis?
The young man is an impressive student - very good SATs, although not fantastic, a musician, an athlete...
There are students in my children’s high school who would seem on paper to equal or top his accomplishments, and they are not being accepted to every Ivy League school.
sounds like he’s first-generation American from Ghana.
I’m sure there was some racist bias in accepting him, but I’m still very happy for and that he can show the racists of low expectations that a black kid can get an SAT score of 2,250 our of 2500 if he is not raised from a culture of total depravity.
2250 is a pretty good SAT score, but in fact, it is just about at the median for most Ivy’s, and even below for hyper competitive schools like Stanford, Harvard, MIT.
The kid is clearly smart, but higher educations’ racist fever and its grail-like quest for “diversity” means that a “Kwasi Enin” is going to hit the racial jackpot in higher education.
Have your kids define themselves as transsexual female African-American on their applications and they can go anywhere they want.
Malcolm Gladwell’s new book “David and Goliath” takes affirmative action to task in a brilliant manner. Is the practice useful? In some cases, yes. Is it instituted wisely? Not even close.
He sounds like a great kid raised in a wonderful family. He has uncles and cousins who have gone to Ivies, so intelligence clearly runs in the family.
What is totally remarkable is the lack of mention of “black” or ANY hint of grievance mongering in this fine article. Jesse and Al will have to fix that ASAP.
but this particular student does not seem like most minority students... in fact, he does not seem like most white students... he could fare well... he is a triple threat... he has academics, athletics and the performing arts going for him... good on him :)
But names like Kmumbo, and Mbwasi can help.
i would love for my sons to go to Grove City College... to me, Grove City College, Hillsdale and the Torrey Honors Institute at Biola are the Ivy League...
Is your screen name M*A*S*H related?
I am sure his race had something to do with it. But...this kid is impressive. I love seeing first generation anyone getting that far ahead.
While the schools fill racial quotas, there are also regional quotas. I live in a very competitive school district where high achievers are often wait listed, where if they came from the next town over they would be accepted.
If this kids was in an under performing district, plus he fill a racial diversity slot— that would all be in his favor.
That said, this kid is impressive and we should all applaud his hard work and determination. This is what America is all about.
Harvard, for instance, charges $75 for an application fee. The others are comparable. Must have gotten waivers and suchlike. Whatever else, it shows that he’s good at doing the bureaucracy dance.
Ernie: Charles, is it hard to get into Auburn?
Barkely: Not if you score 20 points and pull down 10 rebounds.
“Nobody leaves till I do ... and I never do.”
Actually race does. There are a total of 3 black kids in my son’s school (several dozed mixed race kids). One of the black kids has these types of numbers. He is from France.
Schools don’t believe he is really black because he is, well, from France.
If you think Asian’s are hard on their kids about school, try black college professors.
Oh come on! Does anyone really think that a white kid with identical qualifications would have been accepted in ALL the Ivy league schools?
Flagg: “Have you ever heard of the Malaysian Chest Implosion Torture?”
Flagg: “That’s because there’s no such thing ... yet.”
The guidance counselors at his HS should be shot. No way he should have been allowed to apply to all 8 Ivies.. 2-3 at he most. He should have some idea. The admissions dept at the 7 schools he won't choose will next year take it out on applicants from his high school.
Good for him - his accomplishments should be advertised as an example to all students. But, don’t tell any of the poverty pimps - they will insist he live in the ghetto to prove that whitey is holding him down. They can’t stand it when a minority works hard and succeeds without their help (come to think of it, have they ever helped anyone succeed???).
My daughter graduated 2nd in a very competative White/Asian high school in California (two valedictorians were both white, BTW). She had SAT and ACT scores in the 95+ percentile, 5’s on her APs including in Calculus I and II.
She had her heart set on attending an Ivy but was rejected by each of the ones she applied to, ditto for the class valedictorian who had PERFECT SAT scores, started a program for swimming for blind children at the local pool, 5s on APs, etc. He was rejected by ALL of the Ivies and Stanford. He asked what is it he didn’t do to get accepted? (my daughter too). Other valedictorian ended up at Stanford. Several non-whites below them in class ranking and SAT scores WERE accepted by Stanford and the Ivies.
You can’t imagine how crushing this is for these students.
Both went to Berkeley, and if it weren’t for Prop 209, I wonder if they would have been accpted there.
Kwasi Enin, 17, is the son of immigrant nurses from Ghana
He was a senior at William Floyd High School in Mastic, N.Y, with an SAT score of 2,250 out of 2,400
I agree. Upon reading the title I assumed he was simply another affirmative action winner. But congratulations are in order for Kwasi Enin. He does sound like a great student who has great parents who have encouraged success and a humble attitude. But he and his parents will not get the credit. The poverty pimps will see to that.
He was, in a way. He is no doubt smart and an excellent student. But the Ivy's students are all smart, and his SAT's were median for Ivy League schools. 8 Ivy's all accepting him? His name and skin color clearly gave him that extra push over the top. Don't blame him though, he will succeed wherever he goes - rather, its just another example of the diversity zealotry within Academia (and Ivy's in particular) showing itself.
He lives in a decent part of Long Island and his father emphasizes education.
Meaning he has zero slave blood, That his family has never suffered from slavery and racism. In fact they immigrated to this horrible racist country. It is outrageous that immigrants and their progeny get affirmative action preferences. AA is supposed to redress past racism...and this family does not have one in America
But Harvard etc could care less just so long as they get some black faces
re: His name and skin color clearly gave him that extra push over the top.
No doubt about that. When our children were in high school they were all given two inch thick booklets of scholarship listings being offered at that time. Due to the fact that the majority of the scholarships offered were designated for minority students, those from low income families, those with a sob story to tell, or for students whose parents worked in a certain field, our children didn’t even qualify to apply for over 98% of the scholarships. To be factual, some of the scholarships didn’t limit in their wording to “minority only”, but if they stated that a preference was given to minority students, we knew that the application process and the required essays and hoops to jump through would amount to a huge waste of time.
Good for him!!! I hope he does well.
My daughter with an SAT of 2270 wanted to attend an ivy so applied to six of them and was rejected at all six on black Thursday last week but got into Tufts which we are all thrilled about.
I did a little Post Mortum analysis with some broad assumptions so give or take on the numbers it I think outlines the difficulty for the white academically gifted to get in to one of these schools.
Harvard -2023 applicants in 2018
A recruited Ivy League athlete must have the academic credentials to survive the stringent and highly selective admissions process at each institution. Coaches have little sway in the admissions process, although they do provide a list of potential athletes to admissions officials. Across the league, about 13 percent of each universitys incoming class is composed of athletes chosen from coaches lists.
13 percent =262
Highlights of Harvards Class of 2017
The admitted students of the Class of 2017 were ethnically diverse 19.9% Asian-American, 11.5% African-American, 11.5% Hispanic, 2.2% Native American and 0.5% Native Hawaiian.
20% of the admitted students represented 81 different countries and are considered international students, U.S. dual citizens, or U.S. permanent residents.
Harvard’s legacy admissions rate hovers around 30%. Its overall rate was 5.8% this year.
athletic=13 percent =262
2.2% Native American= 44.5
legacy 5.8 =117.33
Total = 1695.004
2023-1695= 328 slots available for white non athletes
Male50%/Female50% split = 164 at Harvard with similar ratios at other schools
MY white-bread non athletic daughter was competing for 164 openings
Asians are over represented -
White population in the US is about 72% according to wikipedia so minorities are over represented by 16% vs the USA white population & although not counted there would be some number from the 81 Countries international enrolment.
probably some overlap on the athletics/ racial numbers this is just a ball park.
Assume in this ball park that 72% of the applications were from USA whites or 26,000 with half being female that would make 13,000 white women vying for just 164 openings.
In a population of 13,000 you will have a number compelling stories - Family wiped out in a car accident, homeless, cured cancer etc.
an off the cuff guess at may daughters ivy chances were a fraction of a %
I am thrilled with Tufts but after looking at the numbers applying to the Ivies was was not worth the time and effort no matter what the qualification.
I would like to note at the top tier of her school there were scores of 2350, 2280, 2270, 2220, 2180, 2150 - none got into an ivy.
The two that did from her school were less academically able, one with a SAT in the 1900 range and the other in the 2000 range. one was of Asian/Indian descent the other Mexican. both got into one ivy each and wait-listed at another. The kicker here is that they both live in million dollar houses and culturally I would they say that they are as white as my daughter.
I think this is a good thing I have never been big on the ivies and this dilutes their pool taking some of the luster off their reputations and forcing the high achievers down market. Which will just enrich other schools.
From my own perspective I do not have a problem if a black came out a hellhole inner city school with an SAT score of 1900 they deserve the opportunity and I would be happy to have my daughter step aside, there are plenty of great schools out there.
I do think they are a little overdone on this diversity thing and wish I had done this research beforehand and saved the application fees.
Imagine this...his PARENTS emphasized education.
re: I do think they are a little overdone on this diversity thing and wish I had done this research beforehand and saved the application fees.
I was think about that as I was reading your post. If you don’t mind saying, how much did you have to spend applying to the 6 ivy league schools?
Generally, blacks who come to this country from Africa, do not care for American blacks, and do not subscribe to their culture.
@@@@@@@@@I was think about that as I was reading your post. If you dont mind saying, how much did you have to spend applying to the 6 ivy league schools?@@@@@@@@@@@
It was through the Common application process and my wife made the payment so I am a little vague on it but I believe about $70 each
Yours is an excellent analysis. My only comment would be that applicants to Harvard probably also skew relatively heavily towards Asian, compared to a percentage of the US population.
But your point still holds - your (and my) daughter are still competing for 164 spots from perhaps 10-13,000 white/female/non-athlete applicants.
Very tough odds.
His response, "So What?"
As far as financial aid, it's quite possible that the combined incomes of his parents may drastically limit what he could be eligible for.......
I was pushing for MIT but she visited the campus and thought that they looked like overly stressed Nerd’s - we are very happy with Tufts
You look at some of the student reviews on different colleges
My 2 nephews went to both Harvard and Yale and a third to Amherst, the diversity thing dominates the atmosphere where all break off into racial/culture clicks topped off with some snobbery. Makes for an unfriendly experience and I do not think my daughter would have been happy at any of them.
Harvard seems the worst, Yale not as bad as the rest but i would take a hard look at where she applies.
Both your points valid and original...at least I haven’t heard them