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Jindal: GOP needs ‘Obamacare’ alternative
Associated Press ^ | Apr 2, 2014 11:41 AM EDT | Ken Thomas

Posted on 04/02/2014 10:39:04 AM PDT by Olog-hai

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal is offering an alternative to President Barack Obama’s health care overhaul, saying states should play a greater role in containing health care costs. […]

Jindal’s plan would create a $100 billion grant program that states could access if they create insurance reforms to control costs. To participate, states would need to guarantee access to people with pre-existing conditions, a key part of Obamacare. …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: bobbyjindal; democratcare; donkeycare; jackasscare; obamacare; preexistingcondition; zerocare

1 posted on 04/02/2014 10:39:04 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Yes. Let’s impose ROMNEYCARE on all Americans instead.

Let’s make CERTAIN that Romney’s statism is here forever.

[\s is this really needed?]


2 posted on 04/02/2014 10:41:35 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Olog-hai

Interesting.

And for people who say, “oh, we don’t need anything, just go back to the free market we had before,” they should think again.

First of all, it never was a free market and hasn’t been one for decades - if ever - because of the insurance companies and federal and state health agencies.

Secondly, Obamacare has done so much damage to the infrastructure of “what we had before” that there is no way for it to come back as it was.

We need a plan, and Jindal’s actually looks better than many other suggestions I’ve seen.


3 posted on 04/02/2014 10:42:53 AM PDT by livius
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To: Olog-hai

How about freedom for an alternative?

How about the free market?

How about less restrictive regulations on medical insurance?

How about tort reform?

How about buying insurance across state lines?

We have lots of alternatives - they just aren’t popular with big government liberals.


4 posted on 04/02/2014 10:43:10 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Olog-hai

Keep the "good" parts, replace the "bad" parts, ala Romney? Repeal it first. Then we'll talk about reform. Words aren't worth spit until it's repealed.


5 posted on 04/02/2014 10:43:25 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Olog-hai

“To participate, states would need to guarantee access to people with pre-existing conditions, a key part of Obamacare. …”

Forcing insurance companies to sell health insurance to people with pre-existing conditions is like forcing insurance companies to sell fire insurance to people whose house is burning down.


6 posted on 04/02/2014 10:43:58 AM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: Olog-hai

Jindal’s a big-time technocrat.


7 posted on 04/02/2014 10:43:59 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Olog-hai

The alternative is called called freedom. Free enterprise.


8 posted on 04/02/2014 10:44:10 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Olog-hai
That's right and we have a clear alternative: THE FREE MARKET ECONOMY.

The market economy free of government interference is how America became the most prosperous place on earth. The free market economy is the best anti-poverty program known to man. Not government. Government creates poverty. As Reagan said, government is not the solution, it is the problem.

The socialist argument for "perfection" ("leave no one behind") is a ruse to gain power. Nothing is perfect, ESPECIALLY Socialist tyranny. A society that puts freedom first will have a great deal of freedom AND equality. A society that puts equity first will have neither.

9 posted on 04/02/2014 10:46:19 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Olog-hai
Yes the GOP does need a do-able alternative..otherwise they will be sliced and diced by state-run media saying they want to kill the un-insured and blah-blah-blah.
Which walks Hillbillery right into the WH.
10 posted on 04/02/2014 10:47:54 AM PDT by Paul46360
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To: Olog-hai
Jindal’s plan would create a $100 billion grant program

So, Bobby is going to fund that out of his own pocket?

Yeah, right.

This is just another governmental scheme to remove $$$dollars from taxpayers under the guise of some great and brilliant government program, except that this one is coming from the GOP side of the aisle.


11 posted on 04/02/2014 10:48:37 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Olog-hai
The alternative is to get the government completely out of the health care industry. Repeal Obamacare, Medicaid and Medicare and then look around for any other government involvement.

Trying to repeal just one of the government programs forfeits the principle that the government should be out of the system completely. That's why a limited attack won't work.

And, it may be that nothing will work until this generation of benefit-hungry seniors takes a dirt nap. Patience - God will take the takers before too long.

12 posted on 04/02/2014 10:51:48 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Olog-hai

The problem is many on the Right are looking for alternative government solutions. But government IS THE PROBLEM and the FREE MARKET IS THE SOLUTION. Forget those on the Right who have a vested interest in perpetuating this $4 trillion government beast. The rest of the Right needs to get on board with cutting 80% of this beast (=800 billion government -still too big IMO, but it’s a start) and start echoing the praises and benefits of the voluntariness of the market free of government interference.


13 posted on 04/02/2014 10:52:30 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Olog-hai
REPEAL OBAMACARE

ABOLISH HHS

Enact Tort Reform.

Let the Free Market decide.

No Grants. No more Gub'mint Pots O' Gold to perpetually mine on the taxpayers' dime.

Get the damned government out of our lives and our doctor's offices.

We don't want a new and improved Obamacare. Got that, Bobby?

14 posted on 04/02/2014 10:53:44 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Olog-hai

1. Any plan to offer “insurance” and simultaneously offer coverage for pre-existing conditions is not insurance.

2. Any economic scheme which uses your neighbors’ money to pay for your beans ALWAYS has the effect of raising the price of ordinary beans and/or reducing the supply of ordinary beans, and reducing what would have been a better selection of other-than-ordinary beans. And raising their price.

3. Health care and insurance both behave like beans.


15 posted on 04/02/2014 10:54:28 AM PDT by mbarker12474
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To: Olog-hai

Yes an alternative is needed. The old system was already mangled by earlier government Interference. The solutions are simple and don’t require money. Undo the damage and undo half of the older damage. Offer tax benefits to individuals to get the same advantage as business do by buying pre tax. Open up competition. Get less government and employers out of the middle between patient and doctor and watch the number of uncovered drop and costs plummet. Return to insurance being catastrophic and allow the market to offer other plans for those that want them. One size fits all doesn’t work.

This also all but eliminates the problems of pre existing conditions because people don’t jump from program to program when they switch jobs or at the whim of their employers.


16 posted on 04/02/2014 10:55:46 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: livius

I say go back to the free market system.


17 posted on 04/02/2014 10:57:01 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Olog-hai

GOP needs to offer more free stuff than the Rats.


18 posted on 04/02/2014 11:02:17 AM PDT by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: Olog-hai
The entire pos legislation purported to 'ensure the uninsured' and the DNC-run media touted that number to be 48 million Americans and that the GOP was 'heartless' to oppose it.

I bet there are still at least 48 million Americans (if that original number was even accurate) uninsured after 0bamacare. They have no reason to sign up for 0bamacare and haven't. But he destroyed previously workable insurance for the entire rest of the country in the process.

We can throw it all out; no need to replace. Change it back to what it was and, if necessary to have an interim 'plan', implement free insurance/care for the uninsured, at billions less than has been spent ruining everyone else's healthcare.

19 posted on 04/02/2014 11:02:46 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Olog-hai

“Jindal’s plan would create a $100 billion grant program that states could access if they create insurance reforms to control costs.”

And where is this magical stash of funny money going to come from?

Get the damn government out of the way, you idiots!


20 posted on 04/02/2014 11:11:06 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: livius
And for people who say, “oh, we don’t need anything, just go back to the free market we had before,” they should think again. First of all, it never was a free market and hasn’t been one for decades - if ever - because of the insurance companies and federal and state health agencies.

Rino talk. Get the government completely out of medical care. Creating a government solution to a government created problem = insanity.

21 posted on 04/02/2014 11:19:30 AM PDT by aimhigh (John 14:21)
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To: Olog-hai

As a Louisiana Freeper I have been saying for years now that Jindal is a democrat in GOP guise. He’s to the left of the Beltway Republicans. I don’t know why Rush and Hannity keep putting this guy on a pedestal.


22 posted on 04/02/2014 11:21:22 AM PDT by NY Cajun
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To: Olog-hai

Government, at any level, has NO business in the health insurance industry apart from (perhaps) certifying minimum levels of education regarding the business and the various broad policy outlines.
Jindal has a good idea in that repeal notion. First, dump this POS ZeroCare.
Then, level the playing field. Remove restrictions that preclude selling insurances across state lines.
Privatize Medicare completely, and get fedgov out of the Dr’s offices and patients’ lives.
And, then, get the hell out of the way.


23 posted on 04/02/2014 11:22:49 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: Olog-hai

uhhhh...how about supply and demand with the feds subsidizing none of it?


24 posted on 04/02/2014 11:26:01 AM PDT by grania
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To: Olog-hai

I gather ‘repeal and replace’ is the 2nd biggest lie following ‘you can keep your doctor’.


25 posted on 04/02/2014 11:27:54 AM PDT by ex-snook (God forgives and forgets.)
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To: Olog-hai
Why wait to replace ObamaCare, before removing it?

When your child is eating broken glass, you don't look for food to replace the glass before taking away the glass.

26 posted on 04/02/2014 11:49:21 AM PDT by syriacus (By inviting millions of undocumented immigrants to stay here, Obama's enlarging our carbon footprint)
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To: Olog-hai
There can be no system where those with pre-existing conditions are allowed to get insurance, otherwise the whole system collapses
27 posted on 04/02/2014 11:50:51 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

There is no way for the Republicans to win in 16 without some sort of solution to pre existing conditions.


28 posted on 04/02/2014 12:00:36 PM PDT by Blackirish
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To: Olog-hai
I'm no US Senator or President but how about, Make the dam thing voluntary?
29 posted on 04/02/2014 12:02:36 PM PDT by McGruff (prop.a.gan.da - information of a biased or misleading nature)
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To: McGruff
" Make the dam thing voluntary? "

Ya mean free at the hospital?

30 posted on 04/02/2014 12:05:24 PM PDT by ex-snook (God forgives and forgets.)
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To: Blackirish

I can’t think of a solution to that problem.

Once people with pre-existing conditions were allowed to get insurance... there was no way back.

Our government has now screwed up the situation so bad, that there is no way to fix it.


31 posted on 04/02/2014 12:06:24 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Olog-hai

You know, just the other day I was asking myself “What does Bobby Jindal have to say about all this Obamacare stuff?”

Now that I’ve read it, I’m sorry I asked the question.


32 posted on 04/02/2014 12:06:51 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: Olog-hai

Until obamacare, anyone sick who needed medical attention just went to county hospital or any number of clinics providing free care. Now what will we have?


33 posted on 04/02/2014 12:19:24 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: Olog-hai

STFU Milquetoast.


34 posted on 04/02/2014 12:57:13 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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