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Dear Harvard: You Win
The Crimson ^ | 03/31/2014 | Anonymous

Posted on 04/02/2014 12:32:15 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd

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1 posted on 04/02/2014 12:32:15 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

So. Was this rape? A sexual assault? Should we blame the victim here?

What I find interesting is the collegiate response to this. Isn’t this pretty typical of all colleges and universities? Drunk co-ed cries rape. They have to tap-dance around the issue.


2 posted on 04/02/2014 12:34:55 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
So. Was this rape? A sexual assault?

"It did not sound like a question. I obeyed."

Alternate possibility: BDSM pornographic fiction?

3 posted on 04/02/2014 12:37:32 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Responsibility2nd

So that’s an example of the Crimson folks, eh?

Guess we know the quality that allowed the Obamadork to 1) get in ...and even worse....2) graduate.


4 posted on 04/02/2014 12:38:15 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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5 posted on 04/02/2014 12:38:18 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Pressured into sex is not assault

It’s stupid that she gave in and regrets it

Did she report it to police? The real cops? No?


6 posted on 04/02/2014 12:39:06 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I’m confused too. Is she saying that Harvard did not do any sort of investigation into this? It sounds to me as if they did not even investigate. Maybe I’m reading that into this.

Or is she frustrated that Harvard did not find evidence of a crime having been committed?


7 posted on 04/02/2014 12:39:26 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (as)
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To: Responsibility2nd

One thing I saw in the article is that if she is taking Sertraline or any other anti-depressant, she should not consume any alcohol at all. (Note; this was after the incident so it is not intended as any indictment of her behavior before).

We have her version here. I would like to know whether there was an official police investigation, and whether the institution made their own investigation as well. While I do not blame the author for what she says happened, I can’t take all of it at face value either.


8 posted on 04/02/2014 12:40:08 PM PDT by henkster (I don't like bossy women telling me what words I can't use.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Co-ed dorms + drinking binges, what could possibly go wrong?


9 posted on 04/02/2014 12:40:53 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I believe Harvard undergraduates belong to one of 8 houses where they live for 3 years.

It is similar to the 3 houses in the Harry Potter saga.

After freshman year, you choose a house like Grippendor or Slitheren or so one and there you stay.

However, each house is enormous with about 400 kids each.

On the other hand, perhaps Harvard should go back to being all male with Radcliff as the Harvard for girls school.

Of course that would give them a black eye too.

Damned if you do, damned if you dont’

However switching houses is a big move but on the other hand each house is quite large. It is not like she would be remaining in a dorm with 30 people. She would remain in a “house” of about 400.


10 posted on 04/02/2014 12:41:44 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: Responsibility2nd

This sounds realistic but maybe a little too much so.It sounds like well written fiction. The clue to me is that in a modern university you could commit a sexual assault and get away with it especially in a liberal institution like Harvard where the burden of proof would be on the male. The most troubling part of the accusation is that she demanded that he be kicked out of the dorm or whatever. Why didn’t she leave? surely such a request would of been honored. That makes me see something fishy about this tale. But, if it was real it should of been examined and action should of been taken I do not make light of something like this.


11 posted on 04/02/2014 12:42:41 PM PDT by amnestynone (Lindsey Graham is a feckless, duplicitous, treacherous, double dealing backstabbing corksucker.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

If she doesn’t commit suicide by the end of the year, I’ll be amazed.


12 posted on 04/02/2014 12:42:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Responsibility2nd

It doesn’t speak to whether or not she filed charges with the police, nor if she contacted a rape/crisis center to help cope with the assault. If not, why not?


13 posted on 04/02/2014 12:44:25 PM PDT by PLOM...NOT! (Checking in from Wisconsin)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

It appears Harvard - like 100% of all other colleges - want to sweep these issues under the rug.

Like I said - Colleges have to toe a mighty fine line when it comes to these allegations.

I think the message is clear here. Don’t get drunk and end up having sex you later regret. And especially DON’T take your problems to campus officials.


14 posted on 04/02/2014 12:44:30 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Jeff Chandler

They let boys and girls share rooms in some places


15 posted on 04/02/2014 12:44:56 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I pushed back on his chest and asked him to stop

that makes it rape. stop means stop, not go. if you cross that line, its rape.

16 posted on 04/02/2014 12:45:21 PM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If she doesn’t commit suicide by the end of the year, I’ll be amazed.

It would also be interesting to know if there were any history of mental health issues before this incident.

17 posted on 04/02/2014 12:46:17 PM PDT by henkster (I don't like bossy women telling me what words I can't use.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I always take my grievences outside the system.


18 posted on 04/02/2014 12:46:28 PM PDT by Mashood
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Guilt can drive people to do that sort of thing, I’m told.


19 posted on 04/02/2014 12:46:42 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: henkster
While I do not blame the author for what she says happened, I can’t take all of it at face value either.

I agree with your comment. It is easy to get carried away with a story like this but I would need all of the information to make a sound judgment.

20 posted on 04/02/2014 12:47:06 PM PDT by oldenuff2no
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