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Venezuela Enforces Fingerprint Registry to Buy Groceries:
SHTF Plan ^ | 4/2/14 | Daisy Luther

Posted on 04/02/2014 5:56:12 PM PDT by Kartographer

What if you were forced to “register” in order to buy groceries? And what if, through that registration, the food you bought could be tracked and quantities could be limited?

That’s exactly the plan in Venezuela right now. The AP reports that in an effort to crack down on “hoarding” that ID cards will be issued to families. These will have to be presented before foodstuffs can be purchased.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Society
KEYWORDS: biometrics; communismkills; cuba; fingerprinting; fingerprintregistry; foryourowngood; hugochavez; iran; leopoldolopez; nannystate; nicaragua; nicolasmaduro; papersplease; preparedness; preppers; rationing; russia; venezuela
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"And I heard a voice in the midst of the four living beings say, “A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine!”" Revelation 6:6
1 posted on 04/02/2014 5:56:12 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


2 posted on 04/02/2014 5:56:28 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Moose Shell is VERY interested in that “technology”.


3 posted on 04/02/2014 5:58:45 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Kartographer
"These will have to be presented before foodstuffs can be purchased."

Are they going to make weekly visits to ensure that you "eat your peas"?

4 posted on 04/02/2014 5:59:49 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Kartographer

Coming soon to a People’s Democratic Republic you live in...


5 posted on 04/02/2014 6:00:17 PM PDT by El Laton Caliente (NRA Life Member & www.Gunsnet.net Moderator)
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To: All

I assume Venezuelans are not allowed to own firearms.

so in that case, that government plan will work.


6 posted on 04/02/2014 6:02:47 PM PDT by willywill
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To: Kartographer

Let’s vote democrat-communist so we can have this here in the USA.(/s)


7 posted on 04/02/2014 6:03:12 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.>)
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To: Kartographer

Saw a picture posted on Twitter of the Venezuelan Natl Guard “inspecting” shopping carts to make sure they’re not violating any rules.

Anyway, my first thought on seeing that, was the left in this country would love to post cops at the exits of grocery stores to “inspect” your cart for food you “shouldn’t be eating.” Is this so crazy to think it may not ever happen?


8 posted on 04/02/2014 6:05:14 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Why work for a living when you can vote for a living?)
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To: Kartographer
Asparagus for supper came straight out of the garden. Hard to control that in a nation this large.

/johnny

9 posted on 04/02/2014 6:05:47 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer

one step closer to the mark of the beast


10 posted on 04/02/2014 6:06:40 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Pajamajan
You mean the U.S.S.A.
11 posted on 04/02/2014 6:09:05 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Paladin2

Actually, they may have to abandon this plan as not communist enough.

Each person is gettin the same amount which is very different from each according to their ability to each according to their needs.

Some people need to eat a lot more than others to get by due to their metabolism.


12 posted on 04/02/2014 6:10:06 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: Paladin2

Well, doesn’t the US do the same thing. What is an EBT card?


13 posted on 04/02/2014 6:10:36 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Cruz/Palin 2016)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

(Pictured: Amateur photo: Venezuelans line up for miles in an effort to acquire food during hyperinflationary food shortages – March 2014)
14 posted on 04/02/2014 6:11:21 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Former Proud Canadian

EBT’s are a GOOD START.


15 posted on 04/02/2014 6:11:47 PM PDT by Paladin2
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One of the many successes of socialism.


16 posted on 04/02/2014 6:12:43 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Kartographer
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

-- Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, "Gulag Archipelago"

17 posted on 04/02/2014 6:12:53 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: JRandomFreeper

“Asparagus for supper came straight out of the garden. Hard to control that in a nation this large.”

You are wrong. In most cities, they are using satellite photos to see if you have made any “improvements” to your house which will get you an immediate tax increase and possibly fines for not getting the appropriate permits.

They can easily spot a vegetable garden. And with the new low cost drones, they will definitely spot your vegetable garden and will distribute it for all.

But rest assured, it will be for the common good.


18 posted on 04/02/2014 6:13:11 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: ClearCase_guy

In the old days, you could possible hide in the hills and wait out the expiration of an uncontrolled govt.

I think this prepping may be nonsense.

THEY WILL FIND YOU. THEY WILL TAKE YOUR STUFF. AND IT WILL BE THE FULL FORCE OF THE GOVT.

Preppers may want to think about prepping for a fight rather than prepping to wait it out.

I doubt you can even grow a garden in a buried basement as they monitor your electric usage and use infrared sensors to measure your house’s heat signature.


19 posted on 04/02/2014 6:18:11 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: Pajamajan

Mark of the Beast system on the way. The athiests are going to be crapping all over themselves when the begin to realize this stuff was predicted about 2000 years ago...especially when they lay it all out diagram style listing all the prophecies and the order they are being fulfilled in...


20 posted on 04/02/2014 6:20:48 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: staytrue

Don’t worry, they’ll have special hidden stores for the Inner Party members.


21 posted on 04/02/2014 6:21:59 PM PDT by Argus
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To: staytrue

That’s why everyone needs to mantra the phrase “you only need to get ONE”.

When they come for your food, weapons, friends/family or self, you only need to get one of them to fulfill your patriotic duty to the Republic. Any extra ones are frosting for the tree of liberty...


22 posted on 04/02/2014 6:23:54 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Kartographer

bttt


23 posted on 04/02/2014 6:26:10 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Kartographer

TUESDAY IS SOYLENT GREEN DAY.


24 posted on 04/02/2014 6:26:10 PM PDT by research99
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

Except if you make your purchase with EBT card, anything goes! They cannot be denied their sweets, lobster, steaks, and junk food.


25 posted on 04/02/2014 6:26:35 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: JRandomFreeper; Kartographer

IMO, anyone who is living like this isn’t a post apocalyptic age doesn’t have anything coming.


26 posted on 04/02/2014 6:26:50 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: staytrue
You are wrong

You are wrong. There are less than 5 million law enforcement of all types in the US. There are almost 400 million people. The logistics of trying to control millions of gardens is unsupportable.

Amateurs study tactics. Professionals study logistics.

/johnny

27 posted on 04/02/2014 6:28:06 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: research99
"TUESDAY IS SOYLENT GREEN DAY."

Bring a Neighbor! ;-)
28 posted on 04/02/2014 6:31:51 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: JRandomFreeper

The police force will assemble and attack the individual with overwhelming force, make him comply, and move on to the next individual with a garden. They can probably do 20 a day. So if 25% of the people have gardens, and the police force is 5% of the population, use a 20-1 force advantage they should be able to visit every garden in 5 days.


29 posted on 04/02/2014 6:32:58 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: JRandomFreeper

“Asparagus for supper came straight out of the garden. Hard to control that in a nation this large.”

And that is why I am on the gardening thread. Had some lettuce from my garden this evening.


30 posted on 04/02/2014 6:33:41 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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To: staytrue
THEY WILL FIND YOU. THEY WILL TAKE YOUR STUFF.

Once again, the logistics of actually trying to do that are unsupportable. There simply aren't enough law enforcement/military.

And people won't take an attempt laying down... there will be resistance of all kinds, from sit-ins to outright fighting.

The combined weight of the western military can't get rid of the opium poppy in a small country like Afghanistan. Forget going door-to-door in fly-over America.

/johnny

31 posted on 04/02/2014 6:33:51 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

No but as long as they go home safe they can divide and conquer. They’ll do Boston type tactics in a specific area and clean it out. Then move on.


32 posted on 04/02/2014 6:35:08 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Kartographer
ahh yes, one of the many joys of the concentrated blessings of socialism
33 posted on 04/02/2014 6:35:33 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.””

One day that is going to happen to the MSM.


34 posted on 04/02/2014 6:35:43 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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To: JRandomFreeper

It was done in the Ukraine.


35 posted on 04/02/2014 6:36:19 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Kartographer

so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name. Revelation 13:17


36 posted on 04/02/2014 6:36:51 PM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: driftdiver
Boston type tactics only work in liberal enclaves. That's why I said that wouldn't work in fly-over country.

Besides, who sits at home and waits for a knock on the door? The 20th century pretty well showed that isn't the way to deal with tyranny.

/johnny

37 posted on 04/02/2014 6:37:11 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

The left - are you kidding me - plenty of holier than thou right wingers too.


38 posted on 04/02/2014 6:37:16 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: driftdiver
The Ukraine isn't the US. It wasn't that long ago they lived under a police state that replaced the feudal serfdom they had for over a thousand years.

It won't work in the US.

/johnny

39 posted on 04/02/2014 6:38:49 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer
When I bought long term food, I ordered it in amounts that wouldn't cause someone to wonder what all those boxes were. I bought some one month, skipped a month, bought some the next month, so the boxes coming weren't stacks of them at one time and not every month.

Went to store today, bought four cans of Hormel roast beef and gravy. I keep buying cans of meat as no long term food is meat. The stamp on these meat cans says Sell By 1-4-2016. Now, since it is “sell by” that means it's still good way past 2016. It should be good almost forever but, when about to open, always check cans for leakage or swelling or bad smell when opened.

I understand why the govn. is giving out cards to track food because people were buying every day and selling it for more money rather than using it. But, they will eventually use the cards to allow you only to buy “x” number of something.

Yes, it's important in this country to buy food now while there is plenty of it. Buying when there is plenty, is not hoarding. When there is little of it, buying it all, would be called hoarding.

I go by what happened on board that ship when it was stranded in the ocean due to a fire in the engine room, and food couldn't get delivered to them. They set up lines, buffet style, and people filled their plates, then stuck more food in their pockets and purses. So, the crew put up signs to take only what you put on your plate so others could have food. The people ignored that and still took more food than on their plate - into pockets and purses it went. They didn't care if others didn't get food, they were going to take all they could for themselves.

That is what is going to happen if we are short of food here. People will not leave food for others. There is plenty for everyone now, so buy all you can. And, DON'T FORGET PICKLE RELISH for all that tuna in the can. A tuna sandwich cries out for pickle relish.

40 posted on 04/02/2014 6:41:33 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: jsanders2001
Mark of the Beast system on the way. The athiests are going to be crapping all over themselves when the begin to realize this stuff was predicted about 2000 years ago...especially when they lay it all out diagram style listing all the prophecies and the order they are being fulfilled in...

More and more, society is becoming anti...Christ. Some hope for the rapture, to get rid of Christians. They will embrace whatever the antichrist promotes.

41 posted on 04/02/2014 6:41:36 PM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: research99
TUESDAY IS SOYLENT GREEN DAY.

The nutritious meal made from pseudo-punk rockers from California. (No, Billie Joe, I don't have time to listen to you whine. Get in the @#$@#@$ oven.)

I'll wait for Wednesday since it's Prince spaghetti day (with leftover Soylent Green in the sauce).

Prince Spaghetti commercial

42 posted on 04/02/2014 6:43:05 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
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To: staytrue
Do you think people are going to wait for the attack? At some point, folks will get pre-emptive.

Marijuana is illegal in most of the nation, and there is a billion dollar industry just in growing it here in the US. The feds can't stop that, they can't stop people from growing gardens.

And the percentage of law enforcement is much less than 5% of the population. Law enforcement, local, state, and federal, not counting military, is about 500,000.

After the first few teams get ambushed, it's going to be difficult to find volunteers for the teams.

/johnny

43 posted on 04/02/2014 6:48:21 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

It’s been suggested that the military leave some kudzu vines in the opium fields of Afghanistan as a parting gift.


44 posted on 04/02/2014 6:48:36 PM PDT by research99
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To: research99
LOL! That would work, if they got more rain.

/johnny

45 posted on 04/02/2014 6:49:42 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: staytrue; JRandomFreeper
“I think this prepping may be nonsense. I doubt you can even grow a garden in a buried basement as they monitor your electric usage and use infrared sensors to measure your house’s heat signature.”

More than likely, there will be no power and the govn. won't able to do squat to you plus cops plus military men will go home and care for their family since there won't be any communication possible and their family won't have any water and food with them gone. You go ahead and do no prepping.

46 posted on 04/02/2014 6:52:05 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Look at Nazi Germany. They would still be in power now if not for external interference.

The communists held russia for 80 years where every garden was appropriated and they did it with much less technology than today.

The communists did the same in China for 30 years.

The govt. can and will do it. Eventually, all communist govts. fail, IF YOU WANT TO WAIT 3-7 DECADES.


47 posted on 04/02/2014 6:53:00 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: staytrue
Germany, China and the USSR aren't America. They had a history of oppressive governments for all of their histories.

We also have the history of the 20th century as a cautionary tale.

Government may be able to control some of the liberal enclaves on the east and west coasts, but it just won't work in fly-over country.

People will die, but government would be foolish to try it, and professional military men, familiar with logistics, will caution against it.

/johnny

48 posted on 04/02/2014 6:59:58 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: staytrue
And no country in history has ever had as many arms in civilian hands as does the US. Not Russia, not Germany, not China.

/johnny

49 posted on 04/02/2014 7:01:43 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer

“hyperinflationary food shortages”

HA! Would we ever see a caption like “Central Planning induced food shortages?”


50 posted on 04/02/2014 7:01:45 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Why work for a living when you can vote for a living?)
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