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'Captain America: The Winter Soldier' Review: Pro Edward Snowden, Pro Freedom
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Posted on 04/04/2014 3:48:53 AM PDT by Perdogg

Captain America: The Winter Soldier is first and foremost a rousing sequel, the kind that makes you giddy that the Marvel movie pipeline is working at full capacity.

It's also a film we're unlikely to see screened at the Obama White House thanks to its anti-NSA message.

The new film offers some political undercurrents not seen in most superhero epics, from fears of government spying to the need for unvarnished transparency. It's all fused to a Marvel-approved template starring actors who know precisely how to bring two-dimensional characters to the big screen.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Music/Entertainment; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: captainamerica; comics; disney; movie; wintersoldier
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1 posted on 04/04/2014 3:48:53 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Aevery_Freeman; ShadowAce; Jack Hydrazine; Altariel; nuancey; Thorliveshere; skinkinthegrass; ...

ping


2 posted on 04/04/2014 3:49:59 AM PDT by Perdogg (Ted Cruz-Rand Paul 2016)
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To: Perdogg

Good. Hollywood could make a fortune if it would make affirming pro-America movies.


3 posted on 04/04/2014 3:50:47 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Perdogg

Cool, maybe I’ll see it when it’s $1 at the red box.


4 posted on 04/04/2014 4:08:59 AM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: Perdogg

When the first movie came out there was controversy over the use of ‘America’ in the name. Hollywood thought it was too pro-american.


5 posted on 04/04/2014 4:12:43 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
When the first movie came out there was controversy over the use of ‘America’ in the name. Hollywood thought it was too pro-american.

Correct...that is why it was subtitled 'The First Avenger'; so it could be marketed in China and other communist countries.

6 posted on 04/04/2014 4:22:48 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Perdogg

Superhero movies bore me to tears. They’re all pretty much the same movie, only the constumes change. There’s really no where to go in the genre. YMMV.


7 posted on 04/04/2014 4:32:57 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: circlecity
They’re all pretty much the same movie, only the constumes change.

I could handle her costume change...


8 posted on 04/04/2014 5:02:50 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: circlecity
Superhero movies bore me to tears. They’re all pretty much the same movie, only the constumes change. There’s really no where to go in the genre. YMMV.

Yeah me too. They're comic books for gosh sake.

9 posted on 04/04/2014 5:24:37 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: circlecity

Thanks for spending time with us lowbrows.


10 posted on 04/04/2014 5:43:47 AM PDT by Thorliveshere (Minnesota Survivor)
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To: Perdogg

It got a 4.5 out of 5 approval this morning on Fox&Friends review.

Reviewer said to stay through the credits, as they have imbedded 2 additional scenes in them.

Reviewer also said to save money avoid the 3-D and IMAX.


11 posted on 04/04/2014 5:59:23 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Rummyfan

Watch the “Dark Knight” trilogy.


12 posted on 04/04/2014 6:08:07 AM PDT by Bratch
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Re: I could handle her costume change...

Sorry, old sport, the position... has been filled.

13 posted on 04/04/2014 6:25:29 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Perdogg

Will this one carry the words “Captain AMERICA” in the title in foreign markets or will it be redacted (as The First Avenger was)?


14 posted on 04/04/2014 6:28:53 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: Bender2
Sorry, old sport, the position... has been filled.


15 posted on 04/04/2014 6:38:18 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Bender2; Impy; NFHale; fieldmarshaldj; sickoflibs; KC_Lion

Hmmm...Who to go drinking with?

My alter ego, Khent, would party with: Joe Montana, LiLo and Ronald Reagan (pre June, 2004).

“That’s one weird combo. Why those selections, you f***ing freak?”

Khent would get roofies from LiLo, drug Montana and Reagan. Then have his way with them. Then he would blame the whole thing on LiLo. She finally offs herself and Khent, Ronnie and Joe have the first legal polyamourous “marriage” in the USA. And no more LiLo.

p.s. Johannson is a dog.


16 posted on 04/04/2014 6:53:44 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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To: Rummyfan

Actually, the themes of movies, books, etc. all fall into certain categories. If you think about, strip the stories down to their basics, you’ll find the themes are obvious and readily identifiable.

An author makes the same old story new by getting us to identify with the characters, introducing a bit of a twist, by making the background compelling.

Movies can do this visually, but Hollywood has had not creative spirit in decades.

I’m glad to see a “hero” movie that makes a point about patriotism, right and wrong for the sake of the younger generation.


17 posted on 04/04/2014 6:58:32 AM PDT by Roses0508
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To: TomGuy

Saw it last night, agree with the 4.5 rating. Great movie, a Conservative movie by any definition of the word and doesn’t pull any punches on the risks and consequences of living in a surveillance state.

AICN, don’t have the link handy, did an interview with one of the directors where he gave Reagan explicit credit for defeating the Soviets and winning the Cold War ...

Of the two extra scenes, the mid-credits one forshadows the next Avengers movie. The post-credits one is somewhat more sentimental in nature, probably ties into Cap 3 ...


18 posted on 04/04/2014 6:59:59 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: GOPsterinMA; Bender2; Impy; NFHale; fieldmarshaldj; sickoflibs
p.s. Johannson is a dog. Mega Hottie!
19 posted on 04/04/2014 7:03:45 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: Roses0508

One thing about the Marvel movies is that you can tell they’re just plain having a lot of fun with them.

I counted two All the Presidents Men (Redford oblivious to how the worm gas turned and they now apply to a guy he supported for President) Easter eggs, a Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid one and a Pulp Fiction one. I’m sure I’ll notice more the next time I see it.


20 posted on 04/04/2014 7:09:04 AM PDT by tanknetter
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Uh...no.

WNB.


21 posted on 04/04/2014 7:18:52 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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To: Perdogg
Kind of amazing since Stan Lee is a flaming Liberal whack job who'd live out his days up Hillary's anus if he could.

Perhaps his actual influence at Marvel is severely waning.

22 posted on 04/04/2014 7:43:04 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Truth sounds like hate...to those who hate truth.)
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To: RC one
Cool, maybe I’ll see it when it’s $1 at the red box.

The first Captain Marvel film never came to Comcast, Starz or Showtime. I waited and waited. I finally got to DVR it last week on TBS...or TNT...I forget. But I'll be watching it this weekend for the first time...skipping over commercials.

Yup, I'm a cheap SOB.

23 posted on 04/04/2014 7:45:20 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Truth sounds like hate...to those who hate truth.)
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To: GOPsterinMA
p.s. Johannson is a dog.

You need to switch the brand of crack you're smokin'.

24 posted on 04/04/2014 7:47:46 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Truth sounds like hate...to those who hate truth.)
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To: Roses0508
Actually, the themes of movies, books, etc. all fall into certain categories. If you think about, strip the stories down to their basics, you’ll find the themes are obvious and readily identifiable.

Literature 101: There are only three.

Man vs. man.
Man vs. nature.
Man vs. himself.

25 posted on 04/04/2014 7:49:35 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Truth sounds like hate...to those who hate truth.)
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To: GOPsterinMA; KC_Lion; fieldmarshaldj; NFHale; sickoflibs; Bender2

WB till me junk fell off. After forcing her to gargle gasoline to get the taste of cigs and Ryan Reynolds out her mouth, of course. ;D


26 posted on 04/04/2014 7:51:14 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: 1010RD
I am well past the target demo for the Marvel Uverse and I was not a big comic book reader when young but I thoroughly enjoy the Marvel movies and the show Agents of Shield.
27 posted on 04/04/2014 7:52:21 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Like Elvis, my drugs are USP-grade prescribed by a doctor.

But I will take your advice and discuss with Dr. Feelgood. Thank you.


28 posted on 04/04/2014 8:17:29 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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Forget Ryan Reynolds...Sean Penn’s been in there.

PERMANENT BAN ENACTED!!!


29 posted on 04/04/2014 8:24:27 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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To: Perdogg

***the kind that makes you giddy that the Marvel movie pipeline is working at full capacity. ***

And to think, sixty years ago these kind of movies would have been considered B&W cheapie “B” budget movies and fifty years ago, shown only only with other si-fi fantasies at the drive in or Saturday matinee double features with Hercules and the Voodoo Women.

Now, they are given the “A” budget treatment and so many are released every week that, at our six movie plex, the average films are, three fantasies and si-fi movies, two teen movies, and a cartoon movie.

Very few movies of the high quality of 60 years ago are released today, maybe one a month.

We are truly living in a fantasy oriented world!


30 posted on 04/04/2014 8:25:34 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Ick. Well I think they make special condoms for people with the AIDS, I’d get me some.

He’s banging Charlize Theron now.

If I were alone in an alley with him, I’d throw a brick at his head.


31 posted on 04/04/2014 8:33:28 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy

Amen, amen, amen.

Sean Penn peaked as Jeff Spicoli:

http://youtu.be/GPo2RMHgSKQ


32 posted on 04/04/2014 8:35:37 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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To: tanknetter

Saw it last night and LOVED it, loved how the “Parasite” inside of SHIELD was in a way an alegory to the Parasite inside of the current state.

I loved that Cap was complaing to Nick Fury and later was proven absolutely correct.

I also loved the blatant references to “A New World Order” and how they showed how wrong it is to pursue such an idea.


33 posted on 04/04/2014 9:18:28 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG

Can’t wait to see Agents of Shield this Tuesday either, for the direct followup to the events of the movie. I don’t think there’s ever been that kind of synergy before, with anything else. Marvel has really shown how tightly they can couple together a movie series that is now up to 9 films and will go to at least 16 and have very high expectations to where Agents is going to go from here on out.


34 posted on 04/04/2014 9:42:01 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Perdogg

I’d go ga ga over it IF IT IS A LITTLE PRO-CHRISTIANITY.


35 posted on 04/04/2014 9:45:34 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: who knows what evil?

It was subtitle The First Avenger to tag into the Avengers movie reminding viewers it was the penultimate movie in Phase One of the great MCU plan. Which was a pretty bold plan the likes of which hadn’t happened in cinema before. There was never any real controversy in Marvel Studios about the name, they’ve got the sales figures they knew Captain America was a globally popular character.


36 posted on 04/04/2014 9:48:09 AM PDT by discostu (Call it collect, call it direct, call it TODAY!)
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To: circlecity

That’s true of just about any action film. Good writing makes the difference. How many different fights, explosions, wild rides are there?


37 posted on 04/04/2014 10:58:39 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: rjsimmon

She’s fake, a fantasy, a will-o-the-wisp.


38 posted on 04/04/2014 10:59:34 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Spot on.


39 posted on 04/04/2014 11:04:00 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: mad_as_he$$

I’ve never seen Agents of Shield. Every Spider Man movie just seemed the same. Which Marvel films did you like?


40 posted on 04/04/2014 11:16:28 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
Spiderman was done by a different production company than produces them now. I really enjoyed Ironman one and two. The Avengers was good also.
41 posted on 04/04/2014 12:15:07 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: tanknetter
Great movie, a Conservative movie by any definition of the word

I haven't seen the movie, but National Review has a piece on their site criticizing it as leftist propaganda.

42 posted on 04/04/2014 1:45:40 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
I haven't seen the movie, but National Review has a piece on their site criticizing it as leftist propaganda.

You mean This one?

People can stop reading at this line from the review: Instead, the film’s subtitle recalls the 1972 documentary Winter Soldier, in which Vietnam veterans repented their battlefield violence.

The idiot reviewer really has no idea about the origins of the term "Winter Soldier" both as a term and in the context of the Captain America story. He runs straight (do not pass go, do not collect $200) to the appropriation of it by Vietnam Vets Against the War. Maybe we should all hate the Christian Cross too, because of how the Klan uses it?

Instead the reviewer champions "Man of Steel," where Superman helps lay waste to a major metropolitan area (killing, in a reasonable hypothetical estimate, around 180,000 people), but has a major emotional breakdown when forced to make the decision to kill the megalomaniacal fellow Kryptionian who, in the macro, tried to wipe out all human life on Earth and, in the micro, is about to incinerate a family using his heat-ray vision.

So the basic premise of the review (Marvel's characters are too conflicted, DC's aren't) is false. The details of the review (this is AMERICA, we pass on the LEFT) are wrong. The context assumed by the review ("Winter Soldier") is wrong.

Now, I didn't mind Man of Steel and the mass destruction as much as others did (I figure that's a lead in to the future Superman/Batman and Justice League movies). But I'll still take the guy who breaks into the frikkin' Smithsonian to steal his old WWII uniform because it's needed as a symbol of AMERICA for taking down the emerging surveillance/police state.
43 posted on 04/04/2014 3:40:17 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Perdogg

Thanks for the ping.


44 posted on 04/04/2014 7:08:45 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: discostu

It was the lead in to the avengers, but the studio offered it in other countries without the Captain America title, just the subtitle.


45 posted on 04/04/2014 9:17:47 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: Perdogg

Saw it tonight. Highly recommend!

It’s not a Lefty propaganda piece. It does show the dangers of a surveillance state.


46 posted on 04/04/2014 10:39:05 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Well, thats what happens when reality sucks so much.


47 posted on 04/05/2014 1:21:47 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: gaijin

go ga-ga:
a multi-national, multi-ethnic group, led by one willing to lay down own life for a murderous friend, in ongoing fight against wickedness in high places.


48 posted on 04/05/2014 5:58:48 PM PDT by tgdunbar
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To: circlecity

I agree. This one was repetitive and boring. And I loved the Cap in the first one.


49 posted on 04/05/2014 8:41:50 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: Perdogg

Just saw it this evening. Pretty good, overall. Redford’s role was no stretch.


50 posted on 04/05/2014 10:07:53 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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