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New revelations about mom killed by Capitol cops
wnd.com ^ | 5/4/14 | GARTH KANT

Posted on 04/04/2014 9:23:21 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda

New revelations about mom killed by Capitol cops

WASHINGTON — First they called her a terrorist threat.

When she turned out to be an unarmed suburban mother, they said she was on drugs.

Now, WND has exclusively learned, without a trace of doubt, that was wrong, too.

WND can also now report Miriam Carey was shot in the back of the head by U.S. Capitol Police officers and uniformed Secret Service agents six months ago, on Oct. 3, 2013.

The official police investigation still has not been released. But Carey family attorney Eric Sanders obtained the toxicology and autopsy report on this macabre anniversary.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: confrontationwatch; donutwatch; feos; miriamcarey; obamagestapo
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Sounds like she just took a wrong turn, panicked when she saw the Obama Gestapo - especially when they pointed guns at her - and she tried to get away, so they shot her. Hope and change did not end well for her.
1 posted on 04/04/2014 9:23:21 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Tragic.


2 posted on 04/04/2014 9:25:43 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

After watching the video, she did this to herself. She could have/would have killed any NUMBER of bystanders or cops given the chance.


3 posted on 04/04/2014 9:26:24 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: DCBryan1

She was Wackadoo!


4 posted on 04/04/2014 9:28:12 AM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (I am the Tea Party bully who took Mitch McConnell's milk money.)
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

If we were to begin killing people for making poor decisions have the people on FR would be in mortal danger. Cops, at all levels, have lost their minds.


5 posted on 04/04/2014 9:30:14 AM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: HMS Surprise

Half, of course. Need coffee.


6 posted on 04/04/2014 9:31:14 AM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: DCBryan1

She panicked because the Gestapo had decided to point their guns at her. She did stop, but if you look when they ran up to her car pointing guns at her she panicked and tried to drive away. Obviously there is no way in hell should could have gotten away so it tells me she panicked. Hope and change did not work out for her.


7 posted on 04/04/2014 9:32:52 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Republican has "I can" at the end. Democrat has "rat". Any questions?)
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To: DCBryan1

Rule One when cops point guns at you: Stop! Or, be prepared to accept the consequences. Throwing crazy into the mix makes it worse.


8 posted on 04/04/2014 9:32:53 AM PDT by PLMerite
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

All she had to do was stop and she’d still be alive.
Sorry to all you FR cop haters, but that is the way it is.


9 posted on 04/04/2014 9:33:44 AM PDT by taillightchaser (I'm going to become a criminal so I can keep my guns.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Just my speculation here, but it would not surprise me if Miriam Carey were Barack Obama’s girlfriend and the baby boy his boy.


10 posted on 04/04/2014 9:34:35 AM PDT by MeganC (Support Matt Bevin to oust Mitch McConnell! https://mattbevin.com/)
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To: taillightchaser

Yes we must obey our betters. Know your place, slave!


11 posted on 04/04/2014 9:38:30 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: taillightchaser

Yes but she panicked. Obviously she should have stopped, there is no way in hell she could have gotten away, but some people who have never been in that situation before, they lose control and go into flight mode out of panic. Too bad for her.


12 posted on 04/04/2014 9:40:14 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Republican has "I can" at the end. Democrat has "rat". Any questions?)
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To: taillightchaser

Oh, so if you don’t do what the people with badges tell you to do then you deserve to die? Is that right?

By the way, maybe you’re oblivious to this but your post did very little to aid your apparent cause of defeating the arguments of so-called ‘cop haters’. Your own post makes clear that armed police are dangerous and unpredictable and can inflict lethal harm on anyone who doesn’t instantly submit to their will.

While this is abundantly true in places where statists rule it is most certainly NOT true in places like Wyoming where we expect our cops to act within the actual laws and to not just kill people because they don’t instantly obey people with badges.

Thinking about it, if things are really so bad with cops as you would have us think then why don’t YOU hate cops? Hmmm?


13 posted on 04/04/2014 9:42:27 AM PDT by MeganC (Support Matt Bevin to oust Mitch McConnell! https://mattbevin.com/)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Shot in the back of the head. She was obviously driving away from the police, not at them. What threat was she to them then?

The press and liberals made a big stink over the soldiers who worked roadblocks in Iraq, for shooting at vehicles that refused to stop. A women with a child in the car gets shot in the back of the head as she’s leaving the area, and the same people are silent.


14 posted on 04/04/2014 9:42:43 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: taillightchaser

Plus no doubt she’s an Obama voter, so logic is not one of her strong points.


15 posted on 04/04/2014 9:43:29 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Republican has "I can" at the end. Democrat has "rat". Any questions?)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Bookmark.


16 posted on 04/04/2014 9:43:40 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray/Penance. Isa 5:18-21,10:1-3 "Tempus faciendi, Domine, dissipaverunt legem tuam")
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
She panicked because the Gestapo had decided to point their guns at her.

Leaving Fort Leavenworth, KS one weekend, my OCS buddies and I were pulled over by 15-20 KCMO police cars. We had about 4 guns in each of our faces. It was surreal, and was just like the final scene in "The Blues Brothers"....anyways, we froze and didnt panic. We heard someone shouting, "Thats not it, wrong car! It has Missouri plates!".....we got a prompt apology and they were persuing a bank robber that had shot a clerk and killed a woman standing in line driving the exact same car as we were. In addition, we were all white/asian, perps were black.

Anyways, moral of the story: We had guns pointed at us, were searched, we did as we were told, and we did NOT get shot.

This lady cost her her own life. Had I gone all crazy like she did, me and my battle buddies probably would have been killed.

17 posted on 04/04/2014 9:45:23 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: taillightchaser

I don’t hate cops. Wasn’t she already stopped when they unloaded on her? She didn’t seem like much of a threat at that point.


18 posted on 04/04/2014 9:47:34 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I was right.
The capital police were so afraid that someone had it in for the big guy that they assumed this woman who made a wrong turn and panicked was attacking.

This is a case of murder that will never be prosecuted.


19 posted on 04/04/2014 9:52:54 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
"She panicked because the Gestapo had decided to point their guns at her."

Maybe she panicked and drove off because she was trying to protect her child in the back seat. The fact that they opened fire without knowing whether there was anyone else in the car with her was wrong. She was shot several times, so it's a miracle that the child was uninjured. We were always taught that if we had to fire our weapons, to make damn sure we knew where that bullet would end up. You didn't want to hit any innocent bystanders.

20 posted on 04/04/2014 9:53:13 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: mass55th; Alaska Wolf; TexasFreeper2009
JBT Ping list


21 posted on 04/04/2014 9:56:10 AM PDT by null and void (I don't mind getting older, but I hate wearing out!)
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To: mass55th

Question.

Was she shot in back of the head before or after they took her kid out of the back window?

Non terminal women being starved to death for 13 days; Guns taken away from citizens so only criminals have them; Being told what to eat; Custody of children and loved ones in hospitals being taken without regard for families; The culling through rationed healthcare, though those who broke, and brake the law have more rights than citizens; The millions of children aborted that would have paid into social security; The targeting of speech and 401Ks; Millions on welfare, whether farmers (who are being persecuted and told what to grow and do with their land), military spouses or hard-working individuals cut to part-time due to govt. healthcare rules and can’t find a second and third ‘shovel-ready’ job.

I’ve seen this before...
Witnessed the brainwashing beforehand too.

It doesn’t end well.


22 posted on 04/04/2014 9:56:13 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray/Penance. Isa 5:18-21,10:1-3 "Tempus faciendi, Domine, dissipaverunt legem tuam")
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To: mass55th

She was obviously driving directly at the officers with the intent to kill them all with her front bumper, then spun herself around in the seat at the last moment so the back of her head would be pointing toward the cops’ guns. </sarc>


23 posted on 04/04/2014 9:57:03 AM PDT by Two Kids' Dad (((( ))))
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
"She was Wackadoo!"

It's not against the law to be nuts, and being crazy isn't a death sentence. Had she been wielding a weapon and firing all over the place, I'd be the first one to take her out, but she was driving away from them, and they shot her multiple times from behind...one in the back of the head. Her child was in the back seat of the car at the time.

24 posted on 04/04/2014 9:58:21 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: null and void
Better graphic:

More on point for shooting women in the back...

25 posted on 04/04/2014 10:02:24 AM PDT by null and void (I don't mind getting older, but I hate wearing out!)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I thought she was a black woman...is that true? No wonder the media has quickly shut up about it.

Also, the Navy Yard shooter...and the two Fort Hood shooters...

none of these, AFAIK, were “angry white males” of the “Tea Party”, so they get real, real, short storylines in the mainstream media....sure, they HAVE to report them...but then QUICKLY go on to something else....like Obama’s selfies.


26 posted on 04/04/2014 10:06:14 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: AliVeritas
"Was she shot in back of the head before or after they took her kid out of the back window?"

I don't know the exact answer to that, but I doubt they'd be taking the kid out of the back window while the vehicle was going. I'll bet they didn't even know there was a kid in the car until she hit the barrier. I believe the child was in a car seat, which means he/she was buckled in. I don't think anyone could climb up on the back of the vehicle, unhitch the belt, then lift the kid out, all while the vehicle was moving. Well, maybe a stuntman could do it :-) Bottom line, this was a shoot-first, ask-questions-later deal.

27 posted on 04/04/2014 10:07:31 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: mass55th
It's not against the law to be nuts,
True, but doing unlawful things while being nuts is.

and being crazy isn't a death sentence.
It is when you put people in danger, or fear of bodily harm without legal justification

Had she been wielding a weapon
She WAS wielding a weapon..... half ton car!

and firing all over the place,
She didnt, and by the way, cars kill more people than guns.

I'd be the first one to take her out,
Not in DC you wouldnt. Civilians can't carry CCW.

but she was driving away from them,
....to resume MORE dangerous activities whilst the cops were lawfully trying to detain her.

and they shot her multiple times from behind...one in the back of the head.
Good. Same thing happened when Sean Nelson took an M60 Tank on a joyride.I'm glad he's dead too. Imminent danger to the public both of them.

Her child was in the back seat of the car at the time.
So what? She wasn't the one driving dangerously. I'm glad she is alive and hope that she is being raised by more law abiding, sane adults.

28 posted on 04/04/2014 10:10:13 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I wonder why they didn’t try to shoot out her tires?


29 posted on 04/04/2014 10:13:17 AM PDT by bimboeruption ("We Recognize No Sovereign But God, And No King But Jesus!" - John Adams & John Hancock)
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To: MeganC

she is the wrong sex for that to be real.


30 posted on 04/04/2014 10:20:38 AM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country)
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To: dirtymac

Ain’t that the truth.


31 posted on 04/04/2014 10:23:47 AM PDT by bimboeruption ("We Recognize No Sovereign But God, And No King But Jesus!" - John Adams & John Hancock)
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I wonder why they didn’t try to shoot out her tires?

Several reasons: First, tires weren't the threat, the driver was. Shooting at a moving car with a park full of people not a good idea either. DC protocol maybe? Our department has ROE where they can't fire warning or disabling shots unless absolutely necessary. Cops can't place themselves in front of a vehicle. They MUST make all attempts to get out of the way. DC is probably even more strict than our department due to the multiple agencies and the sheer number of people in close proximity.

32 posted on 04/04/2014 10:24:07 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: dirtymac
she is the wrong sex for that to be real.

LOL! Post of the day!

33 posted on 04/04/2014 10:24:31 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: MeganC
Just my speculation here, but it would not surprise me if Miriam Carey were Barack Obama’s girlfriend and the baby boy his boy.

Well, it would sure surprise me! I would be beyond astonished to learn that gayboi ever had an affair with a real woman, much less that he had sired a son.

34 posted on 04/04/2014 10:24:52 AM PDT by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
...When Carey was shot to death by federal law-enforcement officers on Oct. 3, they were initially treated as heroes and even given a standing ovation in Congress...

Ah, yes - the heroic "Brute Squad"...

I don't have any more questions about what went on in Nazi Germany.

35 posted on 04/04/2014 10:24:54 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: taillightchaser
All she had to do was stop and she’d still be alive. Sorry to all you FR cop haters, but that is the way it is.

EXACTLY!

It's working out just as George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and the rest of the Founding Fathers envisioned.

Are you a peasant, and refuse to bow down to the AUTHORITAY of a heavily armed government representative on command?

DEATH!

DEATH!

DEATH!

36 posted on 04/04/2014 10:30:10 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: DCBryan1

Your own anecdote belies your reasoning.


37 posted on 04/04/2014 10:32:34 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil

How do you like this...agents storm a 91 year old man house because he runs a museum....

http://wishtv.com/2014/04/02/fbi-surrounds-home-in-rush-county/


38 posted on 04/04/2014 10:53:14 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Republican has "I can" at the end. Democrat has "rat". Any questions?)
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To: mass55th

Whoa! That’s something I forgot about, that’s right she had her kid with her. She panicked, that’s exactly what happened. She was protecting her kid.

Check this out, more fascism....FBI storms 91 year old mans house because he collects Indian arrowheads..

http://wishtv.com/2014/04/02/fbi-surrounds-home-in-rush-county/


39 posted on 04/04/2014 10:55:35 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Republican has "I can" at the end. Democrat has "rat". Any questions?)
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To: DCBryan1

About 30 years ago I was perusing the mags at a 7-11 in CO. Unbeknownst to me I perfectly matched the description of a guy who had escaped the NM pen a couple days earlier, and had since murdered two convenience store clerks and a cop.

Clerk called it in, again quite without my awareness.

Somebody came through the door behind me. Next thing I knew I had a shotgun in my neck, and half a second later I was on the ground with my hands cuffed behind me.

Had I made a wrong move when they came in, they almost certainly would have blown my head off and then apologized to my wife and daughter. And by any logical standard they would have been entirely justified to do so.

It’s like these stories about the cops killing someone acting aggressively crazy because he’s off his meds. How are the cops supposed to know he’s quite and gentle when he’s had them? Why should it make any difference?

However, I don’t know enough about this particular case to comment on whether the cops were in the right.


40 posted on 04/04/2014 10:59:37 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: HMS Surprise

My minds is fully intact btw


41 posted on 04/04/2014 11:00:20 AM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (I am the Tea Party bully who took Mitch McConnell's milk money.)
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To: mass55th

Nope...not against the law...but when you act like she was you leave a lot up to the interpretation of people surrounding you who have the job of stopping dangerous people.

The less you have to interact with the government the better for all involved. She kinda forced some interaction there wouldn’t you say?

I am guessing the officers on scene saw her driving as a threat to every tourist out and about and it may have looked to them like someone trying to escape capture or trying to use a car as a weapon.

I don’t know...but getting shot in the back doesn’t mean you were not a threat. This ain’t a 1950 cowboy movie where people stand facing eachother for dramatic effect.


42 posted on 04/04/2014 11:03:55 AM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (I am the Tea Party bully who took Mitch McConnell's milk money.)
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To: Sherman Logan; GrandJediMasterYoda
Had I made a wrong move when they came in, they almost certainly would have blown my head off and then apologized to my wife and daughter. And by any logical standard they would have been entirely justified to do so.

Oh?

43 posted on 04/04/2014 11:06:22 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
How do you like this...agents storm a 91 year old man house because he runs a museum....

Come on - it was only a hundred Fibbie agents, and dozens of police cruisers.

It's not like they called in a couple of armored brigades or a detachment of the 101st Airborne...

44 posted on 04/04/2014 11:09:42 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Two Kids' Dad

Lesson learned: Don’t do donuts in your car when cops have their weapons pointed at you.


45 posted on 04/04/2014 11:20:22 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: bimboeruption
"I wonder why they didn’t try to shoot out her tires?"

It makes too much sense. They probably didn't cover that option in their use of weapons classes. When they were told to aim for center-mass, they figured they meant the center-mass of the vehicle, not center-mass of the tires.

46 posted on 04/04/2014 11:28:54 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: PLMerite
I think the poor black woman didn't have chance at all. Even if she stopped, the pursuing policemen would riddle her car bullets before they verify if driver threat or not, i.e., shot first ask later.

She inadvertently headed to the heavily secured road to the white house at the middle of phony government shutddown, that's worse than getting lost to dead-end street in L.A. where gangbangers' hang out.

Police should all undergo periodical combat-shooting in simulators, not just to be marksmen.

Example of “Combat shooting” is in the Dirty Harry film where Clint Eastwood mistakenly shot a hostage, he lost the competition.

47 posted on 04/04/2014 11:54:16 AM PDT by hamboy
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
"I am guessing the officers on scene saw her driving as a threat to every tourist out and about and it may have looked to them like someone trying to escape capture or trying to use a car as a weapon."

I've driven in DC on multiple occasions. You take you life in your hands every time you get in your car there. You don't want to be driving in DC when it rains or snows. One time when it was raining, I had a city bus run into my driver's side. I was in the farthest right hand lane, making a right turn at the light. He was next to me, and decided he was going to make a right turn from the middle lane, using my lane while I was still in it.

Also had someone threaten me over a parking spot at Union Station.

I'm not a cop hater by any means. I was a uniform member of a State law enforcement agency for 25 years. I'd be the first person to defend them, but until I saw proof that those cops, or civilians were in danger for their lives from this woman's driving, I'm going to believe that there were other options than opening fire on that vehicle. If there were civilians in the area, they actually put those folks at bigger risk by shooting that car up. It's a lot easier to dodge out of the way of a moving car, than dodging a ricocheting bullet.

48 posted on 04/04/2014 11:54:28 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
FBI storms 91 year old mans house because he collects Indian arrowheads..

I do the same thing, but do it to preserve the artifacts. Guess I better edit my "About page" soon.

49 posted on 04/04/2014 11:55:16 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: Arrowhead1952
"Guess I better edit my "About page" soon."

In Obama's America the first rule of "Artifact Club" is "STFU About Artifact Club" or risk having the Jackboots descend on your homestead!

50 posted on 04/04/2014 11:58:30 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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