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The Vaping Craze (Electronic Cigarettes)
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Posted on 04/04/2014 3:52:10 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Electronic cigarettes heat up in Santa Cruz County

Wen Wei is not a smoker. However, he did grow up in a Santa Cruz household full of cigarette smokers and watched helplessly as family members developed a litany of heart disease and lung problems.

So when electronic cigarettes emerged in 2002, the Harbor High graduate took notice. At the time, however, available e-cigarettes were considered highly unregulated gimmicks mostly advertised on porn sites and imported from China.

“We knew it was an interesting product that could change the way people perceive cigarettes and even have a positive health impact, but it was too early—the technology wasn’t mature enough,” says the 34 year old. “There weren’t that many producers, there was no regulation or accountability and we couldn’t control the sources of the chemicals that went into it.”

Originally considered smoking cessation devices, the FDA classified and regulated e-cigarettes as medical devices, but in 2010 this definition was overruled and they were regulated as tobacco products. As a result, e-cigarettes no longer required FDA approval, which launched a period of rapid development and enormous growth for the industry.

It was the moment Wei had been waiting for. In 2010, he and his partners began work on an e-cigarette product with design and function standards high enough to stand out in the newly competitive U.S. market. After “two to three years of development” and selecting only the “best manufacturers” to partner with, Beyond Vape was born. In May 2013, they opened their first retail store in Los Angeles.

“L.A. is the mecca of e-cigarettes,” Wei says. “We didn’t want to get into the online market because there’s just too much crap out there. When you buy online you take a huge risk. The retail revolution really legitimized the product. It gives people the opportunity to taste and try the product.”

Today, Beyond Vape boasts two stores in L.A., two stores in New York, and one in Capitola—which, according to Wei, has one of the densest smoking populations of any city in California. The American Lung Association recently issued the town a “C” grade in their 2014 State of Tobacco Control report.

“We lost money for two months because we gave away free samples,” Wei says. “Our main goal is to get people to actually like the experience so they can stick to it. We don’t want people to try it once and then go back to cigarettes.”

E-cigarettes generally use a heating element known as an atomizer that vaporizes a liquid solution called “juice.” Some solutions contain a mixture of nicotine and flavorings, while others release a flavored vapor without nicotine.

While “vaping” has been found to be conclusively safer than traditional cigarettes, many detractors are concerned that they are marketed heavily toward teenagers and that the secondhand aerosol emitted by the products may have deleterious effects on the public.

In fact, on Tuesday, March 25, the Santa Cruz City Council unanimously voted to treat e-cigarettes like combustible cigarettes, joining 40 other California cities in regulating the emerging technology like traditional tobacco. Councilmember Pamela Comstock cited the product’s unknown health impact, perceived marketing to children and potential to create a new generation of smokers as the primary reasons to update the ordinance to include e-cigarettes.

Lynn Lauridsen agrees with the decision. A member of the Santa Cruz Tobacco Education Coalition, Lauridsen believes the current “glamorous” marketing of e-cigarettes and the wide assortment of available flavors such as chocolate, cotton candy and piña colada, have a direct impact on luring youth into potential nicotine addiction.

“They are rapidly gaining popularity with young people,” Lauridsen says. “And the marketing is sending a lot of mixed messages. They look like cigarettes and deliver nicotine like cigarettes, but Beyond Vape’s radio ads make them sound like a smoking cessation tool. There’s no scientific proof that they help people quit smoking. The bottom line is we don’t want to see smoking re-normalized.”

Lauridsen believes e-cigarettes should fall under the same strong tobacco retail licensing policy as cigarettes—in other words, remain behind locked glass cases in all stores. In addition, she would like to see a ban on all flavored e-cigarettes.

Although the jury remains out on the long-term health risks of e-cigarettes, consumers have largely accepted the smokeless alternative as the lesser of two evils. American sales hit the $1 billion mark by the end of 2013, and are projected to reach $10 billion within five years.

Wei has no problem being lumped in with traditional cigarettes for now. He believes it is the e-cigarette industry’s responsibility—not the government’s—to educate the public about the differences between vaping and smoking.

“Anyone can see that our products and cigarettes are entirely different,” Wei says. “If they’re going to regulate us in the same way, fine. We welcome any kind of regulation because it forces manufacturers to produce a better product and ultimately evolves the industry.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: ecigs; vaping; waronecigs; waronvaping

1 posted on 04/04/2014 3:52:10 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

In addition to people using vaping to inhale nicotine they are also using it with cannabis.

It provides the same effect without inhaling any smoke.


2 posted on 04/04/2014 3:56:54 PM PDT by Ueriah
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To: nickcarraway

It’s a drug delivery device.


3 posted on 04/04/2014 4:01:55 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Ueriah

Right, nothing like helping people FU their brain with all the drugs.


4 posted on 04/04/2014 4:02:58 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Drango

The government makes a lot of money from cigarettes. They need to make sure kids take up smoking.


5 posted on 04/04/2014 4:09:18 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Drango
It's none of the government's business.

/johnny

6 posted on 04/04/2014 4:10:55 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
It's none of the government's business.

Oh yes it is......They stand to lose all that tax money from tobacco sales.

7 posted on 04/04/2014 4:12:41 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: nickcarraway
The government makes a lot of money from cigarettes

Not when you grow your own.

/johnny

8 posted on 04/04/2014 4:13:37 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: RandallFlagg

Ping.


9 posted on 04/04/2014 4:15:25 PM PDT by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly - 2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
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To: nickcarraway

I will stipulate that it’s better than inhaling smoke, but it is a drug delivery device that is presently used for delivering the addictive drug nicotine, but which has all sorts of other uses, and unintended consequences. These things should be FDA regulated and subject to the same controls as other medical devices. That will not reduce their effectiveness as an alternate way of delivering nicotine.


10 posted on 04/04/2014 4:20:12 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: nickcarraway
You folks on this thread realize this is what happens when government overtaxes and over-regulates a legal product, right?

You cannot regulate the free market or human behavior. Many have tried. All have failed miserably.

11 posted on 04/04/2014 4:24:07 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (GO WISCONSIN BADGERS GO!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

The whole push behind banning cigarettes was supposed to be second hand smoke affecting non-smokers and those around the smokers. Vaping does not do this, especially if there is no nicotine. Could it be an annoyance to others? Yes it could but banning it on the possibility of health reasons without evidence is stupid and infringes on freedom. It also presupposes that the government has the right to tell individuals what they can and can’t do. It’s one thing to regulate civility in public areas and another to just say it looks like smoking so ban it.


12 posted on 04/04/2014 4:33:22 PM PDT by JMS
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To: Ueriah
In addition to people using vaping to inhale nicotine they are also using it with cannabis.

They have liquid pot?

13 posted on 04/04/2014 4:38:11 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it? Do you like it, Scott? I call it, "Mr. & Mrs. Tenorman Chili.")
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To: bigbob
These things should be FDA regulated and subject to the same controls as other medical devices.

I don't see in Art. 1 Section 8 where congress is authorized to make laws concerning medical devices.

That police power, like most police powers, belong to the States.

Are you sure you are at the right site? This is a conservative site for a constitutional, limited government.

The Nanny State sites are elsewhere.

/johnny

14 posted on 04/04/2014 4:41:18 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Haven’t you heard?

Government stepping in always makes everything work out great for everyone. Right??

/S


15 posted on 04/04/2014 4:44:53 PM PDT by RandallFlagg ("I said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it." --Quigley)
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To: bigbob

12 ounce brown bottles are drug delivery devices too. I don’t mind Vapor users. There is a shop I visit frequently where EVERYONE is on the things. The shop doesn’t stink like smoke. AND production is up because the guys don’t take smoke breaks all the time. It’s a heck of a lot better than the spit cups from tobacco chewers that pollute some of the shops I work with. Gross.


16 posted on 04/04/2014 4:58:41 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Drango
It’s a drug delivery device.

So is a coffee mug - what is your point?

17 posted on 04/04/2014 4:59:30 PM PDT by corkoman
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To: corkoman

So is water, it’s used to deliver alcohol.


18 posted on 04/04/2014 5:00:47 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

So is air - its used to deliver nicotine - wait...


19 posted on 04/04/2014 5:03:28 PM PDT by corkoman
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To: nickcarraway

The root of this whole discussion is the bureaucratic regulation of human commerce.

It rarely (if ever) works well, and it always results in unintended consequences (usually negative).

Frequently, the “solution” is worse than the “problem”.


20 posted on 04/04/2014 5:05:26 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: corkoman; Drango

I had a really nice brass water pipe in college. Now that thing *delivered*. /snigger


21 posted on 04/04/2014 5:07:06 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

hey thats right - bongs are DD devices - are those FDA cleared? Hmmm? See...


22 posted on 04/04/2014 5:10:14 PM PDT by corkoman
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To: ChildOfThe60s

DUDE!


23 posted on 04/04/2014 5:10:43 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango; corkoman

Very cheap and very effective delivery system:

Paper towel cardboard tube. Punch a small hole about 2-3 inches from one end, insert doobie. Light doobie while putting one hand on the end closest to the doobie. Inhale with enthusiasm until tube is full & nature’s gift begins to enter your mouth. Suddenly release hand blocking the far end and ......uh, what was I saying?


24 posted on 04/04/2014 5:20:01 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: bigbob
Agreed! We need the FDA to regulate caffeine, too!



/snark (As I take another hit from my KangerTech)
25 posted on 04/04/2014 5:20:17 PM PDT by DoctorBulldog (Inverse Square Law: Freedom's Intensity = 1 divided by Distance from Government Regulation squared.)
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To: bigbob

“These things should be FDA regulated and subject to the same controls as other medical devices.”

Problem is once the FDA regulates these e cigs, and turns them into “Medical devices” smokers will need to go to an expensive doctor, have it noted on their permanent obamacare record that they smoke, and have one prescribed to them, and then insurance will charge 1200 bucks an e cig. Smokers will not quit using e cigs as it will be cheaper just to smoke and not have to pay for a doctor visit.


26 posted on 04/04/2014 5:30:21 PM PDT by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: nickcarraway

I’ve got three of the liquid vapes and two of the dry types.
These things are great and instead of nearly three packs a day it’s more like 5-6 butts per day. Three different flavors, usb chargers, a different buzz for any occasion or whim. This old guy is pleased with the scene.


27 posted on 04/04/2014 5:34:06 PM PDT by theneanderthal
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To: Lx
They have liquid pot?

Used basically with the oil -- hashish; also "wax"; some do work with the dried plant material.

28 posted on 04/04/2014 5:36:01 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture)
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To: steve86

Well with everything going the way it has been I am about ready to imbibe. Where can I get me some oil? Lol


29 posted on 04/04/2014 6:02:08 PM PDT by sheana
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To: DoctorBulldog
"We need the FDA to regulate caffeine, too!"

Don't give 'em any ideas! (V4L, here)

30 posted on 04/04/2014 6:03:32 PM PDT by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly - 2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
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To: bigbob
These things should be FDA regulated and subject to the same controls as other medical devices. That will not reduce their effectiveness as an alternate way of delivering nicotine.

I wouldn't bet on that. The FedMob makes a lot of things less effective than they should be. It would definitely increase the cost ridiculously. To see what a bangup job the FDA does just count the number of TV ads you see for class action law suits against FDA-approved drugs.

31 posted on 04/04/2014 6:28:15 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: dfwgator
Oh yes it is......They stand to lose all that tax money from tobacco sales.

Exactly.

First they demonize it. Then they ban or regulate it. Then come the taxes. Sound familiar?

“What this is is a money grab. It's a way of trying to find revenue to replace lost tobacco taxes.”
If they could regulate & tax sex, they'd do that, too.

Errrr....

Despite the flurry of interest in the bill, largely driven by the relative “celebrity” of many of the prostitutes who have recently appeared on a number of HBO productions, it’s likely to go nowhere. Politicians don’t want to be seen as supportive of prostitution in the state, which, while legal, is still considered immoral… like, oh say, cigarettes and alcohol, both of which are legal and taxed?
LOL
32 posted on 04/04/2014 6:30:59 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: sheana

Come up here around July 15th when the stores open.

I didn’t even know what “hashish” was until just recently.

Now I’ve read all about it.


33 posted on 04/04/2014 6:31:23 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I don't see in Art. 1 Section 8 where congress is authorized to make laws concerning medical devices.

Hear, hear.

34 posted on 04/04/2014 7:34:13 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (The enemy's gate is down...and to the left.)
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