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‘Turn,’ AMC’s New Series About America’s First Spy Ring, Is A Visually Arresting Historical Epic
The Daily Beast ^ | 4-6-14

Posted on 04/06/2014 9:42:14 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

The new AMC series Turn, which premieres April 6, is bewildering at first.

We’re dropped smack in the middle of British-occupied New York. The year is 1776, and Abraham Woodhull (Jamie Bell) is scraping by as a cabbage farmer and sometime innkeeper in Setauket, Long Island. He’s husband to Mary (Meegan Warner), and father to a young child. His father, Richard (Kevin McNally), is a local magistrate loyal to George III.

Then the scene shifts. We’re now in New Jersey. A stunning overhead shot reveals a sprawling field of bluecoat rebel bodies lying next to a pool dyed red with blood. It looks like a John Trumbull painting. A man, dressed in rags, stalks across the field, impaling the bodies with a bayonet. He approaches a corpse and raises his bayonet when—suddenly—the bluecoat flips over and shoves a dagger deep into the executioner’s throat, emitting a geyser of blood. Before you can chant “U-S-A!”, a pro-British militia is chasing the man through the woods, showering him with musket balls.

These men are the Queen’s Rangers, a ragtag Loyalist military unit led by Robert Rogers (Angus Macfayden, best known for backstabbing Mel Gibson’s character in Braveheart). The man returns to his battalion and addresses his superiors:

“These were not Tory militia or regulars… these were Queen’s Rangers.”

“Are you saying there’s a breach within our ranks?”

“I’m saying they have spies… everywhere, Sir.”

So, the rebels seek to give the Brits a taste of their own medicine and, on orders from General George Washington, establish a covert courier system from New Jersey to occupied New York.

~snip~

The cast...is aces all around and Turn, with its occupied territory setting, ex-lovers reuniting for a common cause, awe-inspiring staging and cinematography, and rah-rah patriotism, is ...well worth your time and/or DVR space.

(Excerpt) Read more at thedailybeast.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History; Military/Veterans; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: amc; americanrevolution; culpepper; culperring; espionage; georgewashington; godsgravesglyphs; revolution; revolutionarywar; spies; theframers; thegeneral; therevolution; turn; tvprograms; tvseries; washington
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1 posted on 04/06/2014 9:42:14 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The link doesn’t work. I get “page not found”.


2 posted on 04/06/2014 9:45:41 AM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I don’t expect it to be accurate history but I really hope for something historically based that leaves me rooting for the rebels.


3 posted on 04/06/2014 9:46:02 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

We Rebels and I forgive you creek. Though we Rebels were outgunned, last time, come home creek. Our nation needs you.


4 posted on 04/06/2014 9:49:27 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Publius

Try this:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/04/06/turn-amc-s-new-series-about-america-s-first-spy-ring-is-a-visually-arresting-historical-epic.html#url=/articles/2014/04/06/turn-amc-s-new-series-about-america-s-first-spy-ring-is-a-visually-arresting-historical-epic.html


5 posted on 04/06/2014 9:49:39 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

courtesy ping .... republic!


6 posted on 04/06/2014 9:50:36 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Gen. Washington’s spy ring series starts tonight on AMC — 9 eastern, 8 central.


7 posted on 04/06/2014 9:51:22 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: cripplecreek

I just saw a promo for it on AHC - looks interesting. May be accurate. Too early to tell how AHC is going to turn out.


8 posted on 04/06/2014 9:52:23 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; Pharmboy

Gen. Washington’s Culpepper spy ring starts tonight. 9 eastern; 8 central on AMC.


9 posted on 04/06/2014 9:52:25 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Bttt


10 posted on 04/06/2014 9:53:00 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: C. Edmund Wright

You must be watching the same thing that I’m watching this morning.


11 posted on 04/06/2014 9:56:10 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The debate, ANY DEBATE, is NEVER OVER!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I’ve been looking forward to this show for awhile as the story seems very interesting, and isn’t well known by many people. I’m hoping it’s well done, and satisfies my ‘Walker Withdrawal’ now that The Walking Dead is off until October. (it’s gonna be a looooong Summer for TWD fans)


12 posted on 04/06/2014 9:59:37 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Thank you. As a student of that period, I’ll be watching this show as thoroughly as I’ve watched the Fox series “Sleepy Hollow” looking for historical mistakes.


13 posted on 04/06/2014 10:01:16 AM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I heard a Freeper directly worked on that project..


14 posted on 04/06/2014 10:02:39 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: cripplecreek

Oh it’s accurate alright, gimme a break we, um there was supposedly a historical expert on the set, last time I hear. But check out episode 3..,


15 posted on 04/06/2014 10:05:09 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I wish Colony Bay had been the ones to produce it. Courage New Hampshire was spectacular.


16 posted on 04/06/2014 10:10:55 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

not familiar with Courage New Hampshire, but I’ll check it out.


17 posted on 04/06/2014 10:12:38 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Publius

I loaded it, it shows the page with a big graphic, but then it kicks out to a “page not found” with the back arrow dimmed. This can be attributed to some crap at the Daily Beast server.


18 posted on 04/06/2014 10:12:47 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Saw ads for this series while watching something else. Looks interesting.


19 posted on 04/06/2014 10:14:51 AM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Pharmboy
Do we have any spin reports? Authentic? biased? Gets your blood temperature to 98.6°? 101.4°? 105°? 212°?
20 posted on 04/06/2014 10:15:11 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Operating out of weakness? Imagine if he was working from a position of strength!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Well as there was no ruling Queen at the time, calling the backstabbing Quisling’s the “Queen’s Rangers” is rather suggestive... Hmm, can anyone think of some current political leader of backstabbing traitors who might be the person referenced as their “Queen”?


21 posted on 04/06/2014 10:15:15 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Andrew Breitbart had a small cameo role in CNH. He played a colonial sheriff.

The show is primarily about the years leading up to the revolution with the increasing pressures placed on a small NH frontier town called Courage. It references little known historical events like the Pine Tree riot.


22 posted on 04/06/2014 10:23:25 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

http://www.colonybay.net/w/index.php/movie-theater/


23 posted on 04/06/2014 10:25:28 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Publius

another review:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/05/arts/television/turn-on-amc-about-the-first-american-spies.html?_r=0


24 posted on 04/06/2014 10:33:57 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Do you think that this show might put the enemy on to the fact that we ARE watching?


25 posted on 04/06/2014 10:34:13 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: SunkenCiv

A different review:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/05/arts/television/turn-on-amc-about-the-first-american-spies.html?_r=0


26 posted on 04/06/2014 10:34:43 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic
I just started readying Brian Kilmeade's book, George Washington's Secret Six (2013) and just picked up Alexander Rose's book, Washington's Spies (2006) at Walmart. I find it interesting that it took so long to identify who five of these six spies were. The leader of the ring was identified in the 1920s. The identity of the sixth spy, "355", a "lady", is still unknown. I guess George Washington didn't even know who these people were.
27 posted on 04/06/2014 10:52:35 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The debate, ANY DEBATE, is NEVER OVER!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; cripplecreek
Indeed...I had posted about this a a week or so ago, here, and I had considered posting a reminder today, but you already did...thanks! I had pinged the list.

And cripplecreek, from a reasonably good source, I understand that this has conservative Hollywood people behind it. And as far as the accuracy goes, they claim to have been very careful about everything: accents, clothes, language used, etc.

Have a look at these articles from the NY Post and the NY Times from this weekend.

28 posted on 04/06/2014 10:53:10 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Washington knew. He wrote to them...he burned the letters he received.


29 posted on 04/06/2014 10:55:10 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Didn’t Brian Kilmeade write a book on this?


30 posted on 04/06/2014 10:57:02 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Republican has "I can" at the end. Democrat has "rat". Any questions?)
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To: Pharmboy

I guess I haven’t gotten far enough along in the book. Did he know their actual identities or just their code names?


31 posted on 04/06/2014 11:01:01 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The debate, ANY DEBATE, is NEVER OVER!)
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32 posted on 04/06/2014 11:26:45 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I can’t WAIT to watch TURN tonight. I only wish they’d start it at 8 instead of 9...my bedtime is 9:30 as I am a morning gym person.


33 posted on 04/06/2014 11:35:21 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Ugh, between this and Outlander, I’m afraid I may be forced to finally buy a TV set. Does anyone know what is the cheapest sort of TV that will work well?


34 posted on 04/06/2014 11:36:00 AM PDT by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Thanks. DVR set for ‘Turn’.


35 posted on 04/06/2014 11:36:34 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: ottbmare

You can get a 32” flatscreen HD 1080 TV for about $200 these days.


36 posted on 04/06/2014 11:40:21 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: cripplecreek

Agreed. Loved Courage, NH. They never came out with another season. I wonder if they ran out of funds. The writing, cinematography and music was excellent for an independent production with lots of good actors. I’m sure the 4 episodes were not cheap to produce. Too bad they couldn’t partner up with the History channel or AE or one of the many cable channels for mass mainstream distribution etc.


37 posted on 04/06/2014 11:42:13 AM PDT by nhwingut (This tagline is for lease)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Thanks!

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/culperring/index


38 posted on 04/06/2014 11:59:01 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; Pharmboy

Pinging Pharmboy


39 posted on 04/06/2014 12:01:02 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: nhwingut

They’re still working on funding more Courage episodes. Nick Searcy had a golf tournament for funding about a month back.


40 posted on 04/06/2014 12:14:34 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Talisker
"Well as there was no ruling Queen at the time, calling the backstabbing Quisling’s the “Queen’s Rangers” is rather suggestive..."

Is there a possibility that the "Rangers" could have been established during the reign of QE I? There's no "Princess Patricia" in Canada, but there is a group of Rangers there that goes by that name. Just wondering...

41 posted on 04/06/2014 12:31:33 PM PDT by redhead (NO GROUND TO THE DEVIL! Remember BENGHAZI!! Use Weaponized Prayer)
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To: Mich Patriot
I can’t WAIT to watch TURN tonight. I only wish they’d start it at 8 instead of 9...my bedtime is 9:30 as I am a morning gym person.

Your priorities are WAY screwed up! :)

42 posted on 04/06/2014 12:48:47 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: redhead
"Well as there was no ruling Queen at the time, calling the backstabbing Quisling’s the “Queen’s Rangers” is rather suggestive..."

There's a very old tradition in UK of naming newly-raised regiments after various members of the royal family, not just after the ruling monarch.

I would also like to object to your characterization of the Loyalists as "backstabbing Quislings."

While some of them no doubt were, others were conservative and honorable men who held to their loyalty to King when others abandoned him, at the cost, in many cases, of all their property and even of their lives.

The Revolution was our first civil war, and in many ways it was much more bitter than our second one. Dissident Loyalists were treated far more harshly, for instance, than secessionists were in the WBTS, both during and after the war.

This was probably because Civil War I was a true civil war, brother against brother, while Civil War II was mostly a war between regions, except in the border states, where the fighting was the most bitter and the most atrocities took place.

43 posted on 04/06/2014 1:08:00 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Veggie Todd

Yes, I’m starting to think that too. :)


44 posted on 04/06/2014 1:23:25 PM PDT by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: Publius

Google George Washington master spy. Alfred Poteat gives and awesome presentation on him


45 posted on 04/06/2014 1:55:38 PM PDT by personalaccts (Is George W going to protect the border?)
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To: Sherman Logan
"I would also like to object to your characterization of the Loyalists as "backstabbing Quislings."

That was not my statement. I just asked about the possibility of "Queen's" being in reference to Queen Elizabeth the First.

46 posted on 04/06/2014 2:25:44 PM PDT by redhead (NO GROUND TO THE DEVIL! Remember BENGHAZI!! Use Weaponized Prayer)
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To: cripplecreek
Thanks for posting. This group shoots their movies at a working colonial-era farm. It's east of Riverside, Calif., and open to visitors.
47 posted on 04/06/2014 2:36:51 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: redhead; afraidfortherepublic
"I would also like to object to your characterization of the Loyalists as "backstabbing Quislings."

My apologies. Sometimes I lose track of who was quoting and who originating a statement.

48 posted on 04/06/2014 3:38:15 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

So far so good. They overdo the blood.


49 posted on 04/06/2014 6:17:30 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
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50 posted on 04/06/2014 6:31:38 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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