Skip to comments.The Walking Dead Postmortem:
Posted on 04/06/2014 10:03:07 AM PDT by virgil283
"The survivors of The Walking Dead have found themselves in yet another perilous position......We caught up with executive producer Robert Kirkman and showrunner Scott Gimple to get the scoop"..[WARNING: This contains major spoilers from The Walking Dead season finale. or if you don't want speculation of upcoming shows, Read at your own risk!]
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Robert Kirkman: Assume nothing. I will say for the record that we're not revealing that these are the cannibals or outright denying that. You should plan for a surprise when we come back for Season 5. Scott Gimple: I don't think there's anything in Episode 16 that showed them as definitely cannibals. One could suspect, but there are no eaten parts there.
You say there's no proof, and yet there's this weird candle room that could be a tribute to those they've eaten. There's another shipping container full of people who were yelling for help. They only shot at their feet in order to keep them alive, and when you arrive, Gimple: Here's an interesting exercise that we both could do and we will both fail. Having read the comic books and knowing the rhythm of the story of the comic, could we pull what we know of the comic away from our brain and would it still lead to cannibalism in this moment? .... if you're going to eat somebody, are you really going to put up a candle for them? I don't think that's what that room is about.
What are you able to say about who these people really are?
Gimple: ...The truth of what those people are about will come super quick. When people tune in in October, they're not going to have to wait a super long time to find out what they're about. Kirkman: The big question over the hiatus is what are the various reasons that they'd want these people to be alive? What could their plans possibly be? There are some answers out there, but they may not be exactly what you think.
Gareth was a little Governor-like in his execution when it comes to being overtly nice. How similar are those two villains?
Kirkman: Not very. There are certainly some similarities, especially in this episode. But those similarities go away pretty quickly. His façade has a much more clear purpose that will be revealed in Season 5 and definitely sets him apart from The Governor in a big way. I would state emphatically that he is definitely not the villain of Season 5. I don't want anyone to get the impression that this is a Rick vs. Governor face-off. Gareth and the people of Terminus are going to be a very big threat. They're definitely going to kick Season 5 off in a big way, but the Rick Grimes that we've left this season with is not going to be allowing a Governor-like figure to be such a thorn in their side moving forward.
Gimple: This might be my own impression, but The Governor came across as a very benevolent leader and presidential. The way that I saw Gareth and the way we tried to portray Gareth, I was hoping to see him more a peer, like a regular guy, somebody who is more on Rick's level, maybe even more on Glenn's level.
We know that these people have already lied to the group, so there's no chance they could be good people, correct?
Gimple: Granted, Rick has every reason to suspect them because there were these clues, but Rick was the one that did initiate the conflict. So for the Terminans to be frightened of them and use very well-hidden security measures against them... we don't entirely know that they are bad people. We only know that they had our people's stuff and our people in a train car, which does not look good for them. We also have these hardened survivors that were out in the world and they are not out in the world. They have some place of community where they're living together and surviving. It's possible that our guys could be the bad guys."
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I missed nearly all of last season because of a DVR malfunction. In this year’s episodes, I followed all the survivors of the prison invasion trying to find each other on their way to Terminus or wherever.
That was at least until the episode where the short haired lady and the guy and the three girls decided to hang out at a house somewhere. It got nasty, a crazy crazy pre-teen and her sister, a baby and nothing but needless crazy and heart ache.
Frankly, the scene where she had to kill the crazy girl who looks almost exactly like one of my grand daughters was just too much for me. I can’t ever watch another episode of that show because of it. I now really don’t care what happens. I think it, the show, has just descended into complete despair, and I don’t expect any redemption at all.
I’m really feeling like this show is nothing more than a “Lost” with a different needlessly painful outcome.
Count me out. It’s off my DVR season list now.
This whole season was little more than filler. They've just about killed off this franchise as far as I'm concerned.
This season showed the effect of years of Obamacare.
She was rabid. She had to be put down.
I thought this season was very good. The final episode with Rick and Daryle going medieval on that gang was wild.
There was a scene at the beginning of the “ambush” where our team ran by a fenced in area that had some bones in it. It definitely looked like a human spine in the pile. That was my first indication that the Terminus clowns were cannibals. We’ll see I guess.
There were people yelling for help in the shipping crates as well. I think Beth is in Terminus somewhere.
Yeah I had to rewind to watch that again. Is that possible, to bite a guys neck out like that? I can’t see how it is, you would have to bite deep enough to rip the guys jugular vein or carotid artery out and the neck muscles which I would imagine would be like tough rubber. A person could probably rip off the top layers of skin, but deep enough to rip out half the neck? I don’t think so.
If your son and lady friend was about to be raped in front of your eyes, you would bite thru a metal plate to save them
Anger plus adrenaline equals super human strength.
It would sure slow you down in a hurry.
“Yeah I had to rewind to watch that again. Is that possible, to bite a guys neck out like that? I cant see how it is, you would have to bite deep enough to rip the guys jugular vein or carotid artery out and the neck muscles which I would imagine would be like tough rubber. A person could probably rip off the top layers of skin, but deep enough to rip out half the neck? I dont think so.”
Here’s a news flash for ya.
IT’S NOT REAL. IT’S A T.V. SERIES!!!!
It’s called character development. This season was by far the best. We actually learned about the characters, they became more than cutouts that will die, they became people... that will die.
Michonne is certainly a lot more likable now that she speaks and does more than glare at everybody.
It’s a zombie show, one of the tropes is that throats get bitten out, if a zombie can a person can.
I thought that was one of the weirdest parts of the show this season. No hint of what was going on there or who may have taken her (Beth). I guess it could have been one of the Terminus types.
Zombies have eggshell skulls too. I think in the real world you would play hell sinking a knife to the hilt in someone’s forehead.
That's right. People would never have been able to turn their backs on Lizzie, or to close their eyes to sleep anywhere near her. And she made it clear she intended to murder the baby. There was no other alternative.
Few things bring home the hard realities of the apocalypse like the absolute necessity of putting down an extremely dangerous child.
I love the way they've developed her personality and opened her up.
Yeah I didn’t care for this season either.
I think Rick' "new sheriff in town" flashback line about Beth is significant in some way.
I wondered about that myself. On one of the threads from last week, a Freeper (can't remember the name) said his wife, a nurse, stated it is possible, especially with good teeth.
WD has one problem. It makes mankind totally helpless. Unlike World War Z where the zombies are very fast and strong, the zombies in WD are slow lumbering creatures that can easily be killed by fast mobile human killer teams. All mankind needs is one good stronghold that can protect a large organized population and field a small mobile killer team that will first clear the area of zombies and go from there. Good cold winter weather and the zombies are going to become less mobile as their body fluids freeze. Killing them would be even more easy for human forces. If SHTF the worst role to assume is refugee. You are limited by what you can carry and at the mercy of local forces. Since the characters lost their prison stronghold, they have become refugees.
Oh. We used to call it "boredom."
This season was by far the best.
Only now that it's mercifully over.
Sad for you, good for people who like plot.
Anybody watching ‘Mr Seifridge’ on PBS? Not Downtown Abby but close.
More people in WD get killed by people than zombies. The show doesn’t make mankind helpless, it makes them dangerous. Some people want to rebuild, but they aren’t all good people and they don’t all have good ideas for rebuilding. And others just see it as a chance to have fun with no rules. In the books they’ve done an entire year without the zombies killing anybody, though many people died. The zombies are really just a background threat, like bad weather, only really a problem if you get caught unaware or wind up in the bath of a horde. People though, they’re always a problem.
LOL! Yeah that’s another thing, it doesn’t matter what they use, a knife, a stick, a spike, these zombie skulls always smash open like they are made of eggshells lol. Oh yeah, and stomping, that also smashes their heads open like it’s made of watermelon.
Yeah, because the "Walking Dead" is haute cinema.
It started out as a zombie show. Now it's nothing more than a soap opera playing out against a backdrop of zombies.
Does it have to be? I couldn't care less about "haute cinema", myself. I want a good story.
Now if it's run-of-the-mill zombie guts you're after, there's always the Chiller Channel.
Please let me know if you'd like on or off The Walking Dead ping list.
As soon as the next group of commercials came on, that was the first thing I asked my wife about.(she's an NP) Paraphrasing here, but she said it was totally possible, especially if the person doing the biting had a good set of teeth. I followed up with your exact question regarding muscle/tissue, ect. She said that artery is very exposed just under the skin, and wouldn't require a 'deep' bite. If the person knew where to bite, it could be done, and the scene wasn't unrealistic.
I agree with you. This is my last season. The writing on this show is awful.
Potassium degradation post mortem increases exponentially resulting in a transmorgafation of bone cellular integrity. The producers of WD consult hourly with physicians, nuclear physicists and the military. Who, of course, have their own plans in place for when the REAL zombie apocalpse happens.
KoRn, I remembered that post but not the author. Sorry...otherwise I would have courtesy pinged you on #25.
I once had a horrific nightmare about doing that exact thing to save my children from a terrorist, who were hiding in the treehouse and I was empty handed. It was at the re-wedding of friends and the bride was wearing a quasi victorian style princess dress weirdly made of that grungy looking acid washed denim.
OMG, we laughed so hard over that dress when I told my friend about the dream. We agreed the terrorists had saved her from a fatal fashion faux pas.
I almost always recall my dreams and sometimes they are hugely bizarre and entertaining.
When you take your pulse by putting your finger tips on your throat, what artery do you think you're feeling? It's there, right there with easy access for someone who wants to bite it.........CRUNCH!
That is true, there has been reports where people lift cars up when their child was underneath a car or something.
I don't know what it's called but you either made contradictory statements or answered your own question......LOL!
Do you know what the major clue was in her disappearance and quite possibly the connection to what the producers said in this interview and the next season premier?.........
.HeHeHeHe....I do and I'm not gonna tell you.........
Perhaps it is easy to smash their heads due to decay from within.
I’m watching Resurrection on ABC. Very good show. Yes it deals with dead zombies however these zombies are clean, eat sandwiches, non gory, and can talk unlike TWD which has gore, zombies dirty and they moan and eat people.
I wonder if we’ll encounter Morgan again. Last we knew he was still living, psycho but living.
Thanks for running the ping list and the discussion thread each week.....
I liked Michonne fine as the quiet badass warrior, but it’s nice to see her character develop the additional depth. I hope she survives for more seasons and maybe gives birth to one of the next generation of survivors. As long as the baby daddy isn’t Bob. Imagine the potential of a child born of Michonne and Daryl. Guaranteed badass survivor and potential future leader.
There’s a series on BBC America called “In the flesh” about zombies that’s pretty unusual. They have treated zombies living pretty much normal lives and untreated zombies are dangerous.
Funny thing is, they call them PDS sufferers. (Partially deceased syndrome)
1. Pure theory that's never been proven.........kinda like global warming.
2. They're where, Georgia? North Carolina? Walkers aren't going to freeze down there nor will they require snowshoes in order to walk thru snow.......
3. Due to the total breakdown of society and all its amenities such as radios, cell phones and definitely TV, we don't know how the northern states are surviving this apocalypse......
Rumor has it, the producers of TWD are considering a spin off of this popular series and it will be called "The Frozen Dead - North to Alaska" and they will appropriately try to resurrect both John Wayne and Stewart Grainger in title roles........We'll just have to see how that pans out.