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Samsung claims a ‘Massive’ Graphene Wafer breakthrough – Begins Prototype production of gFETs ....
wccftech.com ^ | 12:16 PM - 6 Apr 2014 | Syed Muhammad Usman Pirzada

Posted on 04/07/2014 11:23:16 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Graphene is slated as the major breakthrough of this century. Infact it could very well propel the semiconductor a couple of decades easily (compared to the performance trend via Moore’s law ). Graphene transistors are more than capable of being clocked at 500Ghz so you get the idea of what Samsung is claiming to have achieved: a replicateable production process of Graphene nodes.

Intel Graphene TransistorsGraphene.

Experimental gFET Graphene Production – Scientific breakthrough of this century to be used in CPUs* of wearable devices

OK, I admit, I was being slightly sarcastic when I wrote the headline. It seems sort of ironic that if Samsung’s claims turn out to be true then the first Graphene processors will be in future wearable devices instead of lets say, desktop computers. Of course, Samsung can be forgiven for saying this considering its a primarily mobile company after all, but it still stings to a PC Enthusiast like me. Graphene, aka the miracle material of the century, to be used in future smart watches; seems like an extract from Douglas Adam’s Hitch Hiker’s Guide to the Galaxy. Anyways, enough of my rant. On with the specifics.

This breakthrough was claimed at the Samsung Advanced Institute of Technology and Sungkyunkwan University in South Korea. Basically they used a common silicon wafer with Germanium substrate to manufacture a mono layer mono crystal Graphene impression on top of it and then remove the silicon wafer (and germanium) from below. The silicon wafer can then be reused which is pretty great. Also since the Graphene is removed from the germanium using a completely dry process the Graphene is completely wrinkle free which basically means that the construction of the crystal is completely clean and low in defects. Since both the germanium substrate and silicon wafer can now be reused ( in previously known production processes the germanium substrate had to be burned off) it will exponentially increase, mass production capabilities. Samsung has started production of Graphene Field Effect Transistors (gFET)

* by CPUs I mean SoCs, but that didn’t sound so poetic up there.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: freescale; germanium; gfet; globalfoundries; graphene; hightech; hitch; ibm; intel; rok; samsung; tech
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1 posted on 04/07/2014 11:23:16 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: SunkenCiv; ShadowAce; Vince Ferrer
Related thread:

Samsung researchers claim graphene breakthrough

The Telegraph ^ | 4/4/2014 | Sophie Curtis

Posted on Sat 05 Apr 2014 06:51:29 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer

2 posted on 04/07/2014 11:26:48 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

3 posted on 04/07/2014 11:27:50 AM PDT by Rio (Proud resident of the State of Jefferson)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

cool


4 posted on 04/07/2014 11:30:12 AM PDT by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period. PALIN/CRUZ 2016)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Skynet thanks Samsung.


5 posted on 04/07/2014 11:38:59 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Rio

Dammit. My graphene phone briquetted itself!


6 posted on 04/07/2014 11:42:33 AM PDT by null and void (Politics: Voting for the monkeys that are better at flinging poo at their opponents...)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Whoa, this is a big deal if true. Having to burn off the substrate was a big drawback and a major problem for mass-production. They’ve essentially made a reusable die for the graphene matrix, bumping the reproducibility of the product manifold. This is very exciting and could lead to a revolution in computing.

My prediction: 100+ cores on one server proc die by 2020.


7 posted on 04/07/2014 11:44:30 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Here's mine Graphene thingy...and it is Y2k OK

8 posted on 04/07/2014 11:48:06 AM PDT by Paul46360
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To: driftdiver

And it wasn’t that many years ago the electronic stuff from Samsung was considered the cheapest junk you could buy! But my cheesy microwave still works, and I just got one of their tvs. But when they first hit the market here they were considered to be junk.


9 posted on 04/07/2014 11:51:39 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I thought IBM were the leaders on this on. Did they let it get away from them?


10 posted on 04/07/2014 11:54:10 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

11 posted on 04/07/2014 11:55:33 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

500Ghz transistors!

When you need raw processing power...faster is always better.

At 500Ghz a lot of strange stuff will be possible.


12 posted on 04/07/2014 11:59:41 AM PDT by Bobalu (Four Cokes And A Fried Chicken)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Carbon sequestration = GOOD!


13 posted on 04/07/2014 12:01:29 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: rarestia

It’s becoming obvious mankind didn’t invent any of this stuff. This is clearly stuff being reverse-engineered from the Area 51 spacecraft.


14 posted on 04/07/2014 12:02:58 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Rio

I went to a gas grill, so my yard’s intelligence has obviously dropped.


15 posted on 04/07/2014 12:04:50 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Lazamataz

Most of this stuff is electrical in nature. Given the predisposition to anal probes, I guess that most aliens used waste to power their craft.


16 posted on 04/07/2014 12:05:51 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia
Gives a whole new meaning to Ass-cending to the stars.

Or should that be Ass-End-ing?

17 posted on 04/07/2014 12:06:59 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Lazamataz

You tell me, Laz. You seem to be educated in the art of dick-tion.


18 posted on 04/07/2014 12:08:41 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: DManA

I think IBM is working on some sort of diamond chip.


19 posted on 04/07/2014 12:21:04 PM PDT by Ray76 (Take over the GOP? You still beg! Fight for what's right. Forget them. Second Party Now.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Implantable? Coming soon.


20 posted on 04/07/2014 12:29:53 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: Ray76

I searched IBM and graphene. The latest seems to be over a year ago:

http://www.graphene-info.com/tags/graphene-companies/ibm


21 posted on 04/07/2014 12:33:06 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ...

Weeeellll, 500Ghz, pretty nice.


22 posted on 04/07/2014 12:33:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I would appreciate it if somebody more knowledgeable than me (a very large group) could explain how much this would speed processing up relative to existing systems.


23 posted on 04/07/2014 12:34:19 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; SunkenCiv; ShadowAce; Vince Ferrer

Can someone help me to understand the significance of this advance if it works—both in terms of current technology and what kind of work this speed up will enable. (presumably this does not enable quantum computer speeds.)

for example to understand the meaning of 500 GHz ....correct me if I’m wrong — are we talking about typical desktops operating at about 4-5 GHz?
.....................
according to this article

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/157337-the-haswell-paradox-the-best-cpu-in-the-world-unless-youre-a-pc-enthusiast

As our hardware analyst mentioned in his Haswell review, Intel’s new parts struggle to get past 4.5GHz on air, while Ivy Bridge could reliably hit 4.7GHz, with some parts reaching 4.9GHz. In reality, the picture is even muddier than that: Early reports suggest that some Haswell chips can only reach 4.3GHz, while others can get to 4.7GHz or higher (again, on air).


24 posted on 04/07/2014 12:39:15 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: DManA

The diamond is a quantum chip at USC, not IBm


25 posted on 04/07/2014 12:42:49 PM PDT by Ray76 (Take over the GOP? You still beg! Fight for what's right. Forget them. Second Party Now.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Gasp! This is a terrible, frightening event!

Carbon is POISONOUS!! All industrial use of carbon was well on it’s way to being properly suppressed as the awful Enemy of Nature that it is!!

STOP BIG CARBON FROM DESTROYING THE EARFF!!

(I can’t wait to hear some enviro say this seriously.)


26 posted on 04/07/2014 12:53:03 PM PDT by William of Barsoom (In Omnia, Paratus)
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To: Paul46360
ROFL.

I have my zoom up high and could not figure out what that was,....had do drop down to make it out....LOL

27 posted on 04/07/2014 12:54:38 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: rarestia
Later in the thread,...See above a bit,...there are some questions and requests for explanation for what this might mean in the future.

Want to take a crack at answering them.

We could have a good discussion .

28 posted on 04/07/2014 12:59:51 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Sherman Logan

Think superconductor. Low resistance, uses less power, less waste heat.


29 posted on 04/07/2014 1:02:29 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: DManA

Science is equal opportunity....Samsung is no slouch....in manufacturing,.


30 posted on 04/07/2014 1:04:27 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Sherman Logan

If you had an 8-core CPU in your desktop machine and they were running at 500Ghz then your PC would qualify as a super-computer.

It could simulate the physics needed to do realistic real-time hi-res 3D-graphics without breaking a sweat. Your current PC would take weeks or months to generate a single frame.

It could do strange things like alter your image in real-time so that you could look and sound exactly like someone else on a live video chat.

It could handle simulations of nuclear devices.

If you could feed it the data it could monitor all US cell traffic in real-time and watch for keywords.

Creating the software to take advantage of such power would be the hardest part.

Just imagine 10,000 cores running at 500Ghz.


31 posted on 04/07/2014 1:05:23 PM PDT by Bobalu (Four Cokes And A Fried Chicken)
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To: Lazamataz
Was that your locale of origin....I’ve heard that you know!!!
32 posted on 04/07/2014 1:07:56 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: DManA; Ray76
I posted something recent;y ,...keyword Hitech.
33 posted on 04/07/2014 1:12:47 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: ckilmer
Well,.... cycle time on current CMOS circuitry ...tops out pretty much above 5 Mz.

IBM has a Powerserver that has the top cycle time.

This would do damage to all of the ...enthusiasts doing overclocking.

34 posted on 04/07/2014 1:18:58 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks


35 posted on 04/07/2014 1:23:50 PM PDT by Ray76 (Take over the GOP? You still beg! Fight for what's right. Forget them. Second Party Now.)
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To: DManA; All
A link to Google Images :

Click here

36 posted on 04/07/2014 1:32:24 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: All; NormsRevenge; Marine_Uncle; Fred Nerks; SunkenCiv
Turned up this link:

How to Save the Troubled Graphene Transistor

37 posted on 04/07/2014 1:39:49 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

bunp


38 posted on 04/07/2014 1:40:41 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin
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To: Ray76

See 36 and 37.


39 posted on 04/07/2014 1:41:26 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Bobalu

Too bad the NSA has dibs on the first years supply.


40 posted on 04/07/2014 1:44:52 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin
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To: DManA
Just found this using:

...graphene transistors ibm circuits ....

IBM researchers just built the best graphene-based circuit yet: it sends text messages

41 posted on 04/07/2014 1:48:59 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Just my casual impression that in the past every story about graphene was a story about IBM research. Then out of the blue ( to me ) Samsung starts prototype production of a product.


42 posted on 04/07/2014 1:54:28 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA
I found the article I posted....

IBM Demonstrates Graphene-Powered RF Processor.

43 posted on 04/07/2014 1:57:54 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I remember wafers.. rows and rows of ‘em.. those wafer testers were a bugger sometimes.


44 posted on 04/07/2014 2:01:54 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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see #41 and 43.

The whole Globe has been working on researching Graphene.

45 posted on 04/07/2014 2:05:44 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: ckilmer; Sherman Logan

See my uodates...links.


46 posted on 04/07/2014 2:08:46 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Lazamataz

Incorrect. Not Area 51, Apollo 22.


47 posted on 04/07/2014 2:11:35 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Good.


48 posted on 04/07/2014 2:25:11 PM PDT by DManA
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To: ckilmer

Someone can correct me if I’m wrong but I think the Intel limitation is thermal. Faster clock rates increase dissipation so there is a natural practical limit to the clock speed.


49 posted on 04/07/2014 2:33:26 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Bobalu

Wow. Thanks much.


50 posted on 04/07/2014 2:41:58 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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