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Before Noah: Myths of the Flood Are Far Older Than the Bible
TIME ^ | 04/05/2014 | Ishaan Tharoor

Posted on 04/07/2014 1:36:42 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Edited on 04/07/2014 1:41:51 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Darren Aronofsky’s Noah dominated the U.S. box office on its opening weekend and won critical acclaim, but not without controversy. The film, based on the biblical story in Genesis of Noah’s Ark and the Great Flood, arrived amid a deluge of outrage from religious groups. Some Christians fumed at the film’s straying from biblical Scripture. Meanwhile, a host of Muslim-majority countries banned Noah from screening in theaters because representations of Noah, a prophet of God in the Koran, are considered blasphemous. Such images “provoke the feelings of believers and are forbidden in Islam and a clear violation of Islamic law,” read a fatwa issued by Cairo’s al-Azhar University, one of the foremost institutions of Sunni Islam. Egypt has not banned the film, but Indonesia, Qatar, Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates have. “It is important to respect these religions and not show the film,” lectured the main censors of the UAE.


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TOPICS: History; Religion
KEYWORDS: bahrain; coracle; egypt; epicofgilgamesh; flood; indonesia; irvingfinkel; mesopotamia; myth; noah; noahsark; noahsflood; qatar; theflood; unitedarabemirates; worldhistory
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1 posted on 04/07/2014 1:36:42 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

AUTHOR CLAIMS:

The Sumerian Epic of Gilgamesh dates back nearly 5,000 years and is thought to be perhaps the oldest written tale on the planet. In it, there is an account of the great sage Utnapishtim, who is warned of an imminent flood to be unleashed by wrathful gods. He builds a vast circular-shaped boat, reinforced with tar and pitch, that carries his relatives, grains and animals. After enduring days of storms, Utnapishtim, like Noah in Genesis, releases a bird in search of dry land.

IMPLICATION: The story of Genesis BORROWED from Gilgamesh.


2 posted on 04/07/2014 1:37:45 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Two flood stories.

Okay. So, that makes one of them untrue?


3 posted on 04/07/2014 1:38:55 PM PDT by lurk
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To: SeekAndFind

1) Doesn’t this back up the story of Noah as historically accurate and not a myth at all?

2) The director of the movie Noah is an atheist? Figures...


4 posted on 04/07/2014 1:39:53 PM PDT by Tulane
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To: SeekAndFind

I think anyone that actually understands the bible knows that the stories in Genesis predate the book itself by many, many years.

I also see the stories of a great flood in other cultures as supporting evidence of the truth of the great flood story.


5 posted on 04/07/2014 1:40:52 PM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: SeekAndFind

“IMPLICATION: The story of Genesis BORROWED from Gilgamesh.”

Or “IMPLICATION: The story of Genesis shares a common source as Gilgamesh, which is consistent with the geographical record of a flood effectively destroying Mesopotamia, which more-or-less encompassed “the entire human world” back then, and consistent with the Torah.


6 posted on 04/07/2014 1:41:27 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: SeekAndFind
The Black Sea Flood Hypothesis


7 posted on 04/07/2014 1:41:37 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: SeekAndFind

it doesn’t. all the flood stories are passed down from the REAL flood event described in the bible.


8 posted on 04/07/2014 1:41:41 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Don’t you just love the way that “Time” lumps complaints from Christians with “I kill you where you stand” threats from Muslims and outright “bans” of screenings in Muslim countries?


9 posted on 04/07/2014 1:41:51 PM PDT by Tallguy
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Flood myths are so universal that the Hungarian psychoanalyst Geza Roheim thought their origins were physiological, not historical — hypothesizing that dreams of the Flood came when humans were asleep with full bladders.

Last night I was dreaming of Mount Everest. Turned out I had to get up and take a dump.

10 posted on 04/07/2014 1:42:10 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: SeekAndFind

There’s been interesting speculation about the flood stories being related the influx of water from the Mediterranean through the Bosporus into the Black Sea at the end of the last ice age, inundating many cities along the Black Sea’s shores. People have also speculated the Atlantis legend may have been related to the same events.

Anyway, there are so many flood stories in the region, there must have been a major major flood. Why not?


13 posted on 04/07/2014 1:44:00 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: SeekAndFind
While the Hollywood blockbuster has been a hit, it has also faced opposition from Christians and Muslims angry with its supposed misrepresentation of their scriptures.

Christians and Muslims - but no mention of the Jewish... Hmmm...

14 posted on 04/07/2014 1:46:06 PM PDT by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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To: cuban leaf

Ditto. But I also think many Christians don’t truly understand that.


15 posted on 04/07/2014 1:46:17 PM PDT by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: lurk

RE: Two flood stories.

Okay. So, that makes one of them untrue?

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Or it makes both not exactly true in their details.

Or one is true the other less true.

Or both are false.


16 posted on 04/07/2014 1:47:00 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Noah’s just another chance to kick God. Every Secular Humanist can’t wait to “critique” the story.


17 posted on 04/07/2014 1:47:42 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SeekAndFind
Unfortunately, no one but Fundamentalist Protestants and Orthodox Jews acknowledge the historical truth of all of Genesis. And most people think that only Fundamentalist Protestants do.

I've been trying for almost fifteen years on this forum to disabuse people, but the message never gets over for some reason.

18 posted on 04/07/2014 1:48:16 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: F15Eagle

Nearly all the bible has been borrowed from previous cultures. That should be no surprise to anyone.


19 posted on 04/07/2014 1:49:36 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Anything to discount the Bible or marginalize it.

I hear this crap at least once a month from the people struggling with their relationship with God, The Creator.


20 posted on 04/07/2014 1:51:16 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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